- #97 Off the Record Part 1 — When You're Spiraling and Can't Tell Anyone
Chelsea is kicking off a new six-part Off the Record series with a conversation about what happens when you’re carrying something enormous and have nowhere safe to put it.
In this episode, she talks about the isolation that can come with being the other woman, the late-night spirals that happen when there’s no one you feel comfortable calling, and why keeping every thought trapped inside your own head can make it feel even louder.
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E97 - 7m - Sep 20, 2026 - #96 A Quick Life Update: The Podcast, Retreats & New Things Coming
Chelsea is back with a personal update on where she’s been, what’s been happening behind the scenes, and what’s coming next for The Other Woman and The Wife.
In this episode, she shares why the podcast has been a little quiet, what she’s been building in the meantime, and what listeners can expect from a new series of mini episodes, future podcast guests, and upcoming retreats in 2027.
She also reflects on reaching more than a quarter of a million podcast downloads, the growth of the community, her recent writing on Substack, and some exciting opportunities that may be ahead.
Most of all, this episode is a thank-you to everyone who has listened, supported, shared, worked with the team, or simply found something meaningful in this space.
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E96 - 11m - Sep 13, 2026 - #95 Eight Years of Silence — Andrew's Story
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea sits down with Andrew, who spent nearly two decades in a marriage that never gave him what he needed, including eight years watching a woman he had real feelings for come and go from a house across the street, unable to say a word to her. Andrew opens up about the religious upbringing that taught him sex was a sin, the wedding night that told him everything was about to go wrong, and what it's like to wake up every single morning with a pit in your stomach you can't explain. He and Chelsea unpack why men almost never have the language women do to describe what's missing in their marriages, the spiritual awakening that finally cracked him open, and the men's retreat that gave him permission to do what he'd known for years he needed to do. They also get into real friction over disclosure — whether telling the truth when divorce is already decided is integrity or its own form of cruelty. This conversation isn't about whether what Andrew did was right or wrong. It's about what happens when a man finally stops performing the life he was told to want, and starts asking who he actually is underneath it.
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E95 - 27m - Aug 22, 2026 - #94 You Are Still You
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea gets uncomfortably honest about the thing nobody in your situation is talking about — not what you did, but what it did to your sense of who you are. In this raw, solo episode, she unpacks the mirror moment: that brutal flash of self-recognition when you catch yourself doing something or thinking something and realize you would have judged someone for this a year ago. She breaks down the crucial difference between shame and guilt, why the identity you built on "I would never" was always going to crack under enough pressure, and what integration — not punishment, not performance — actually looks like when you're trying to find your way back to yourself. Because the real question underneath all of it isn't how you go back. It's who you are now that you know what you know.
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13m - May 25, 2026 - #93 The Man Who Wanted to Be a Priest (And Got Married Three Times Instead)
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea sits down with Carolina and her husband Antonio — a public figure with a career built on reputation, who once considered becoming a Catholic priest, has been married three times, and has had affairs — and he showed up here, on record, to talk about all of it. This conversation is for the woman trying to decode her married affair partner, for the betrayed wife who keeps asking why, and for anyone who's ever wanted to understand what's actually happening beneath all those layers of conditioning, escape, and silence. They get into what it means to own your decisions publicly when the whole world is watching, why staying in a broken marriage doesn't protect your children — it just teaches them what dysfunction looks like — and why will he choose me? might be the wrong question altogether. Carolina says it best: it's less about you than you think. She means that as a mercy, not a dismissal.
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1h 4m - Mar 30, 2026 - #92 The Worst Questions You're Asking (And Why You Need to Stop)
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea goes solo to dismantle the questions she hears most from smart, self-aware people who are still completely spinning out. "Does he love me or am I delusional?" "Why won't she just let him go?" "What could I be doing differently?" "How could I do this to them?" "How do I prevent the pain for my children?" These questions feel important—like the answer would finally make everything hurt less. But Chelsea breaks down exactly what each one is doing to you, why they keep you stuck, powerless, or frozen in punishment mode instead of moving you forward. And then she hands you something better: the questions that can actually give you information you can use. This one's raw, direct, and deeply compassionate—because you deserve questions that help you see clearly, not ones that keep you analyzing someone else's marriage while your own life waits.
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39m - Mar 9, 2026 - #91 No Contact Culture Is Teaching You That You're Not Welcome
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea and returning guest Carolina Vilalva are having the conversation nobody wants to have — because it will piss people off. No contact has become the default advice for everything from toxic friendships to affairs, but is it actually healing us or just keeping us comfortable? They dig into the difference between creating space and declaring someone unworthy of repair, how a tool born in abusive relationships has quietly expanded into a cultural exile system, and what we're really teaching people when we call abandonment a boundary. Raw, personal, and more than a little uncomfortable — exactly the way we like it here.
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1h 10m - Feb 23, 2026 - #90 The Jealousy Trap Inside Affairs
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea and Carolina Vilalva dig into the jealousy nobody wants to admit they're drowning in—jealous of his wife's access, his timeline you weren't in, the version of him you never got to meet. But here's what jealousy in an affair is really telling you: it's fear of losing what you think you have mixed with desire for what you don't. Carolina breaks down the difference between jealousy (fear-driven) and envy (desire-driven), why affairs start with radical presence but devolve into surveillance and control, and how curiosity is the only antidote to the fear that's eating you alive. If you're spending more time managing jealousy than being present, you're not in a relationship—you're in a control project, and those always fail.
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49m - Feb 9, 2026 - #89 Meet Julie: The Fairy Godmother Who Creates Space for Floodgates
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea introduces you to Julie—not as a team member or service provider, but as the kind of human who shows up in her pajamas at 4AM when you're collapsing. Julie is a clarity partner who creates the kind of space most people have never experienced, where your floodgates can finally open. She doesn't coach (Chelsea hates that word—it implies fixing). Instead, Julie witnesses, translates your nervous system's reactions into language you can understand, and helps you see what you're actually feeling underneath what you think you're feeling. Chelsea shares Julie's powerful piece "Last Hour of the Year"—a response to someone 16 months into an affair who crashed on New Year's Eve—demonstrating how Julie holds pain without judgment, reframes struggle without fixing it, and helps people see they're not regressing but standing at a threshold between surviving something and building towards something else.
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21m - Jan 26, 2026 - #88 When Love and Dying Live in the Same House
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea returns to the studio for what might be the heaviest episode yet – and that's saying something. Inspired by a listener who reached out with an impossible truth, Chelsea reads a raw, unfiltered letter from "Liz," a woman having an affair while caring for her dying husband. This isn't fiction – it's a distillation of real conversations, real suffering, and the kind of impossible choices that society refuses to acknowledge exist. Chelsea explores the unbearable weight of being a caregiver to someone who's dying while seeking refuge with someone else, the crushing shame of betrayal alongside devotion, and why we're all more complex than the simple narratives we're supposed to fit into. If you're drowning in guilt over choices that don't make you a monster – just human – this is your safe space to breathe. Because sometimes survival looks nothing like what we thought it would, and that doesn't make us broken. It makes us whole.
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32m - Jan 12, 2026 - #87 The Power of Words: How Your Internal Language Creates Your Reality
This week Chelsea goes solo to talk about something nobody's addressing—how the words you use inside your head are literally creating the reality you're living. She dives into the difference between "I can't leave" and "I'm choosing to stay," why getting loud doesn't mean having a voice, and how every criticism you have about someone else is actually revealing your deepest fears about yourself. From her makeshift recording setup in parking lots to raw truths about language that liberates versus language that traps, this episode challenges you to audit your internal dialogue for 24 hours and replace one limiting phrase that's been running your life. Because the woman who found her voice through infidelity isn't just surviving her story—she's rewriting it.
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32m - Dec 8, 2025 - #86 When Control Destroys Connection: The Real Betrayal in Marriage - Carolina Vilalva
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea sits down with therapist Carolina Vilalva to explore a client story that'll make you rethink everything about control, punishment, and what betrayal really means. Carolina shares the raw reality of working with a couple where the betrayed wife's quest for control became more destructive than the infidelity itself—controlling finances, social media, even access to his children from a previous marriage. Together, they dive into the uncomfortable truth that connection and control cannot coexist, why punishment never equals healing, and how the ultimate betrayal isn't always what we've been conditioned to believe. They get real about how men and women negotiate freedom in relationships, the dangerous fantasy that we can control outcomes, and why the reaction to infidelity often causes more trauma than the affair itself. This conversation challenges the rigid narratives we've been sold about cheating and invites us into the messy, complex space where real transformation happens—because sometimes the person you're controlling the most is yourself.
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58m - Nov 20, 2025 - #85 Why Affair Sex Feels Better Than Marriage Sex - Dr. Diane Mueller
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea sits down with Dr. Diane to tackle the question every woman in an affair has asked: "Why does sex with my affair partner feel so different than sex with my husband?" Dr. Diane—who holds two doctorate degrees in naturopathic medicine and acupuncture—breaks down the real reasons: new relationship energy, novelty, how female arousal actually works, and why boredom in marriage isn't inevitable. They explore what your affair is really revealing about unmet needs, the role your nervous system plays in desire, and practical ways to bring that chemistry back into long-term relationships. This isn't about shame or fixing what's broken—it's about understanding your body, reclaiming playfulness, and discovering that passion doesn't have to die just because you've been together for years. Because the affair isn't the answer; understanding your desire is.
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43m - Nov 6, 2025 - #84 Infidelity and It’s Overlap with High-Performance Relationship Coaching -Katarina Polonska
This week on The Other Woman And The Wife Chelsea sits down with Katarina Polonska, a High-Performance Relationship Coach who frequently encounters clients dealing with infidelity. Having personally experienced betrayal, Katarina brings a nuanced perspective to the conversation, offering insights from both her professional expertise, which is vast, and personal journey as someone who has been on the receiving end of infidelity.
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41m - Oct 23, 2025 - #83 The Truth About What Your Affair Is Really Seeking - Paul Keable
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea sits down with Paul Keable, Chief Strategy Officer at Ashley Madison, for a conversation that flips everything you think you know about infidelity. Paul reveals the uncomfortable truth that men are actually seeking emotional validation while women are outsourcing their sexual needs, explores why toxic male fragility creates dead bedrooms, and explains how affair partners might be the most honest online daters. They dive into compassionate affairs for caregivers, why discretion isn't about shame but empowerment, and how the judgment we heap on complicated humans like us creates the very underground behaviors we claim to despise – because sometimes going into our pain rather than around it is exactly what transforms relationships.
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Paul Keable is the Chief Strategy Officer at Ashley Madison, the world’s leading married dating platform. With over 20 years of experience in communications and strategy, he has helped shape the company’s global direction for more than a decade. Paul is known for his insights on love, monogamy, and how technology is transforming modern relationships, and he frequently speaks about creating safer, more authentic spaces for connection.
52m - Oct 9, 2025 - Summer Break Announcement: My Happily Ever After Includes Rest
In this announcement, Chelsea shares her decision to take a summer break from the podcast to focus on personal growth, family time, and self-reflection. While the show pauses, the community's safe space continues, and Chelsea promises to return in early September with fresh perspectives and new stories about love, loyalty, and authenticity. She encourages listeners to use this hiatus as their own opportunity for self-discovery and self-care.
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4m - Jun 29, 2025 - #82 How to Distinguish Between a Red Flag and a Triggered Wound - Joshua Marable
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea sits down with integrative bodywork and somatic therapist Joshua Marable for a serendipitous conversation about the messy realities of human connection. Joshua challenges us to go into our pain rather than around it, exploring how synchronicity, self-awareness, and somatic healing intersect with relationships. They dive deep into maintaining your sense of self within partnerships, the real talk about sex and intimacy, conflict resolution beyond surface fixes, and why infidelity is often about unmet needs rather than simple betrayal. This raw, unfiltered discussion transcends judgment and approaches relationships with the kind of radical honesty that transforms pain into growth – because sometimes the conversation you're avoiding is exactly the one you need to have.
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With over 20 years of experience in the somatic-related fields of integrative bodywork, therapeutic massage, mindfulness coaching, and personal training, Joshua Marable brings a wealth of expertise and dedication to WellessenceMD.
46m - Jun 22, 2025 - #81 What Your Affair Is Really Telling You - Kara Nance
This week on TOWTW Podcast Chelsea is joined by guest Kara Nance to explore the unconscious nature of desire, attachment styles, and the three key instinctual energies that drive human behavior—self-preservation, social, and sexual. Together, they delve into the delicate balance required in partnerships, how unmet trauma can perpetuate cycles of pain, and the ongoing challenge of maintaining sexual energy in long-term relationships. They also emphasize the critical importance of authenticity, personal growth, and facing difficult truths in relationships.
Guest Bio: Kara Nance is an MD who has navigated multiple long-term relationships while raising four children. After becoming disillusioned with the traditional healthcare system, she left to create her own practice, bringing a unique perspective to both medicine and relationships.
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54m - Jun 15, 2025 - #80 From Trolling to Friendship: A Betrayed Spouse’s Journey Through Infidelity Pt. 2
Sometimes the harshest critics become the most profound teachers. In this follow-up episode of TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea reconnects with one of her original TikTok trolls. Avid listeners might remember him from Episode 35—”From Trolling To Dialogue”. He spent months processing his wife's infidelity by trolling her in the comments. Nearly a year later, he's back with a completely different perspective, sharing his journey from anger to healing and proving there really is life after infidelity for everyone involved. This isn't your typical "happily ever after" story—it's a real look at how our biggest critics are often fighting battles we can't see, and how transformation happens when we choose growth over grudges
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47m - Jun 8, 2025 - #79 Complicated Women Have the Best Stories: Ann Marie Edition
This week on TOWTW Podcast, Chelsea flips the script and puts Ann Marie in the hot seat. You know that familiar voice who's been weaving through our episodes? Time to meet the woman behind it. Ann Marie opens up about her own messy, beautiful journey with infidelity and reveals how she went from podcast listener to now co-conspirator in creating this safe harbor for complicated humans like us.
This isn't just Ann Marie's origin story – it's a love letter to everyone who's ever felt like they needed permission to be human. If you're still reading remember: You don't need permission, but you deserve to feel less alone. Welcome to the messy, transformative world of finding your voice.
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