The Church has misunderstood power. In Season 7 of The Disrupters, host Rev. Dr. Caleb Campbell invites listeners into a deeper conversation about how power shapes our relationships, our churches, our politics, our communities, and our witness in the world. Through honest conversations with pastors, theologians, activists, historians, scholars, and thought leaders, this season asks a disruptive question: What does it mean to follow a king who chose a cross instead of a sword?Together, Caleb and his guests examine the assumptions, narratives, and systems that shape our perspectives of power. They explore how power can be hoarded, abused, and weaponized, while offering a vision for faithful power expressed through humility, service, courage, generosity, and love.

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How did the church become more interested in holding power than sharing the Good News? Welcome to the seventh season of The Disrupters! In this first episode, host Caleb Campbell sits down with Dr. Soong-Chan Rah, Robert Boyd Munger Professor of Evangelism and Church Renewal at Fuller Theological Seminary, award-winning author, and renowned voice on faith and justice. Together, they explore how American Evangelicalism has been shaped not by a truth-pursued mindset, but by a truth-possessed one that values control and exclusion over humble evangelism.Dr. Soong-Chan Rah challenges us to rethink how we evangelize, moving beyond intellectual arguments and needless boundary-drawing toward a vision of embodied gospel presence. He reflects on the dangers of exceptionalism, the deep roots of power and narrative in American church life, and the need for prophetic lament as a corrective spiritual practice.This conversation sets off an entire season that will unsettle your perspective of power and invite you to examine the stories and habits shaping your own faith. Whether you’re seeking a church that lives what it preaches, or you’re wrestling with the ways Christianity has missed the mark, this episode calls us back to the kind of power Jesus modeled, one that serves, invites, and chases after truth.Listen now and rediscover what it means to follow Jesus and share the Gospel with true power.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>The problem with “truth-possessed” evangelism</li><li>Incarnational apologetics vs. winning arguments</li><li>Prophetic lament as spiritual resistance</li><li>The weaknesses of revival-based evangelism</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Discover more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/soong-chan-rah?utm_campaign=season7&utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Dr. Soong-Chan Rah and his books</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/the-disrupters-podcast?utm_campaign=season7&utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">The Disrupters</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/caleb-campbell?utm_campaign=season7&utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Caleb Campbell</a></li><li>Read Caleb Campbell&#39;s book, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/disarming-leviathan?utm_campaign=season7&utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Disarming Leviathan</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1En6bZzaCKJFmQsPU4pjB9bBsxGIjo8uG/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="http://ivpress.com?utm_campaign=season7&utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPDISRUPT40 for 40% off and free US shipping on any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece, Helen Lee, and Travis Albritton✅Assistant Producer: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Makayla Payne✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Sneakerhead&#34; by Ghost BeatzDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Soong-Chan Rah Has A Problem With Truth-Possessed Evangelicalism

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What should Christians do with power, and what if we’ve misunderstood it all along?Welcome to season 7 of The Disrupters from InterVarsity Press, hosted by Caleb Campbell. Every episode promises honest conversations that push the church to rethink the ways it chases influence, security, justice, and above all—power.Joining Caleb Campbell this season are leading voices like Soong-Chan Rah, Mae Elise Cannon, Alexia Salvatierra, Jonathan Walton, Amy Williams, Malcolm Foley, Margaret Bronson, and others. Together, they pull the curtain back on the ways power shapes our views of politics, race, gender, healing, nationalism, wealth, peacemaking, and justice.At the center of this season is the radical person of Jesus. He rejected domination. He chose the cross, not the sword. His kingdom values humility, service, generosity, and love. In a world chasing power, what would it look like for Christians to surrender it?If you’re searching for conversations that challenge the status quo and help you develop a more faithful perspective of power, this season is for you.Season 7 of The Disrupters launches next week, September 16. Subscribe now on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disrupters-faith-changing-culture/id1495107302" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1UBGLKZUqxB6svAYsIPKPX" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>, or watch on the <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLS0Lg51WigeiiwrqgxAA54EUttthl5y_&si=9w8T6NTbLxdTBdPy" rel="nofollow">IVP YouTube</a> channel.Links from the episode:<ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/the-disrupters-podcast?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">The Disrupters</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/caleb-campbell?srsltid=AfmBOoo8SZfXwJd-XCOCwTrlgi-qXxsAgFw88fdrg3C0aPFVu8cwx7A0" rel="nofollow">Caleb Campbell</a></li><li>Read Caleb Campbell&#39;s book, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/disarming-leviathan?utm_campaign=season7&utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Disarming Leviathan</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-ozAOmts_WhXJ-mRVjiFwCrHdfzU704g/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅ Special offer: Visit <a href="http://ivpress.com" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPDISRUPT40 to get 40% off and free US shipping on any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅ Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅ Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅ Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅ Social Media Manager: Makayla Payne✅ Assistant Producer: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅ Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅ Theme Song: &#34;Sneakerhead&#34; by Ghost Beatz Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Season 7 Trailer: The Church Has Misunderstood Power

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You need to slow down.So many leaders are driven by the fear of falling behind, convinced that impact requires urgency. And in the frantic pace of the modern world, we forget that God never told us to sprint ahead; he invited us to walk alongside him.In the final episode of Season 6 of The Disrupters podcast, host Nicole Martin sits down with author, speaker, filmmaker, and VeggieTales creator Phil Vischer. In their conversation, Phil shares about the rapid rise and rapid fall of Big Idea Productions. He opens up about how speed became his idol and how slowing down has allowed God to redeem his failures. Now, as co-host of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-holy-post/id591157388" rel="nofollow">The Holy Post</a> podcast and a storyteller for the next generation, Phil reflects on what it means to follow Jesus without being consumed by a relentless need to hurry.Throughout their conversation, Phil warns listeners about the pressures of staying ahead and the toxic pace of modern ministry. From identity to insecurity, performance to obedience, this episode is a powerful reminder that you don’t need to impress God. You just need to patiently walk with him.When we crucify speed, we find the joy, peace, and purpose only God’s pace can provide.Tune in now to learn how slowing down might be the most faithful thing you can do as a leader.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>Crucifying speed in a culture addicted to hurry</li><li>Redefining our failure and success through God’s eyes</li><li>Obedience always outweighs outcomes</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Discover more about <a href="https://www.philvischer.com/" rel="nofollow">Phil Vischer</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Martin</a></li><li>Read Nicole Martin&#39;s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n-szl18ItIscukvo6DFmZxzzdhmyCCB_/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="http://ivpress.com" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$tDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Crucifying Speed to See God Redeem Your Failures with Phil Vischer

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Leaders are expected to meet increasingly high standards, but many are silently suffering under the pressure of constantly needing to perform. But God never called us to perform—He called us to be relational people.In this episode of The Disrupters, host Nicole Martin is joined by Sheila Wise Rowe and Dr. Nicholas Rowe, co-authors of <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/healing-leadership-trauma?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Healing Leadership Trauma</a>, spiritual formation mentors, and longtime leaders in ministry and education. Sheila Wise Rowe is an award-winning author and counselor who has spent over 30 years walking alongside abuse and trauma survivors. Dr. Nicholas Rowe is the Hansen Associate Professor of Leadership at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, with decades of experience in leadership, reconciliation, and formation. Together, they offer not only practical wisdom but a deep well of spiritual insight.Through honest reflection, they unpack how unhealed trauma fuels performance-based leadership and how many Christian leaders carry the past, present, and future like a crushing weight. They discuss how early wounds, fear of failure, and pressure to succeed can disconnect leaders from their core identity in Jesus. But when you crucify performance, what rises is something far more powerful: character rooted in truth, leadership grounded in rest, and a witness that’s not built on performance, but presence.Tune in now to discover how surrendering performance can allow you to lead as a “human being,” not a “human doing.”This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>Crucifying performance and recovering authenticity</li><li>Healing leadership trauma across past, present, and future</li><li>Leading others by being rooted in your identity in Christ</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/sheila-wise-rowe" rel="nofollow">Sheila Wise Rowe</a> and <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicholas-rowe?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Dr. Nicholas Rowe</a></li><li>Check out their book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/healing-leadership-trauma?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Healing Leadership Trauma</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Martin</a></li><li>Read Nicole Martin&#39;s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rrOXD1wfyW0YuUgRFa2OK-q2c6XhquaS/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="http://ivpress.com" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$tDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Crucifying Performance to Lead Like a Human Being with Sheila Wise Rowe and Nicholas Rowe

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In a culture that promises life will go &#34;up and to the right,&#34; we&#39;re conditioned to believe that success follows a predictable trajectory of increasing achievement and personal fulfillment. But for Christians who desire to lead more faithfully, our expectations for life and leadership must come from what God says about us, about our calling, and about his kingdom.In this episode of The Disrupters podcast, host Nicole Martin talks with Joanna Meyer, Director of Public Engagement at the Denver Institute for Faith and Work and author of the award-winning book <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/women-work-and-calling?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Women, Work and Calling</a>. As a leader in the national <a href="https://www.womenworkandcalling.com/" rel="nofollow">Women, Work and Calling</a> initiative, Joanna brings deep insight into how Gospel-formed expectations become the foundation for authentic calling and faithful leadership.Nicole and Joanna explore what it means to crucify our expectations and lead from a place of flexible surrender rather than rigid entitlement. They share about their experiences as women who lead and serve in the Church, and how they’ve needed to navigate and sometimes reject the expectations that have been placed upon them in the process. Joanna shares her journey through unmet expectations, revealing how beauty and brokenness have worked together to shape her calling and deepen her relationship with Jesus. Throughout their conversation, they emphasize the difference between being faithful and being fruitful, challenging listeners to align their hopes with what God promises will be rather than their own expectation of what should be.Tune in now to discover how to develop faithful expectations, navigate disappointment, and remain anchored in the Gospel when life doesn&#39;t go according to plan.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>The difference between being faithful and being fruitful in leadership</li><li>How broken expectations can deepen intimacy with Christ</li><li>Moving forward in faithfulness when life doesn&#39;t meet expectations</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/joanna-meyer" rel="nofollow">Joanna Meyer</a></li><li>Check out Joanna&#39;s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/women-work-and-calling?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Women, Work and Calling</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Martin</a></li><li>Read Nicole Martin&#39;s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WcvqQHx4DZa_BzCySMefjpe6Z4oeAVk1/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="http://ivpress.com" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$tDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Crucifying Expectations to Faithfully Live and Lead with Joanna Meyer

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In a culture obsessed with numerical growth and expansion, Christian leaders often measure success by the size of their congregation, budget, or influence. But for believers who desire to lead with integrity and purpose, we must reframe our leadership goals with a different question in mind: &#34;What are we measuring, and why?&#34;In this episode of The Disrupters podcast, host Nicole Martin welcomes Bishop Geoffrey Dudley, pastor of New Life in Christ Church and CEO of Ilead Enterprises. As a retired Air Force chaplain with over 20 years of service and the author of <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/leading-through-storms?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Leading Through the Storms</a>, Bishop Dudley brings practical leadership wisdom and spiritual insight to navigating ministry growth and decline.Together, Nicole and Bishop Dudley explore what it means to &#34;crucify scale&#34; and lead through the inevitable storms of ministry. Throughout their conversation, they emphasize that true success isn&#39;t measured merely by numbers but by the depth of maturity, spiritual growth, and kingdom impact. Bishop Dudley shares his journey from preaching at age thirteen, Air Force chaplaincy, and later to pastoring a thriving church, revealing how storms and challenges crystallized his calling and transformed his approach to leadership. Together, they invite us to practice honest self-reflection and align our understanding of scale with God’s vision.If you&#39;ve ever felt dissonance between your vision for growth and your current reality, this conversation is for you.Tune in now to discover how to measure what truly matters and lead faithfully through both seasons of expansion and turbulence.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>Finding meaning beyond numerical metrics in ministry</li><li>Preparing for inevitable leadership storms</li><li>Developing multi-generational leadership for long-term impact</li><li>Differentiating between growing a church and growing disciples</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Learn more about Bishop <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/bishop-geoffrey-v-dudley?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Geoffrey Dudley</a></li><li>Check out Bishop Dudley&#39;s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/leading-through-storms?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Leading Through the Storms</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Martin</a></li><li>Read Nicole Martin&#39;s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/191R_qp5LI86bTKAUk8TpoS_JeCofH0wC/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="http://ivpress.com" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$tDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Crucifying Scale to Lead Through Storms with Bishop Geoffrey Dudley

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In a culture that celebrates the pursuit of “more,” we’re taught that success is measured by the accumulation of wealth. But for Christians who desire to lead their families, churches, or organizations well, we must commit to a different teaching: “You cannot serve both God and money.”In this episode of The Disrupters podcast, host Nicole Martin welcomes Bob Doll, CEO and Chief Investment Officer at <a href="https://www.crossmarkglobal.com/" rel="nofollow">Crossmark Global Investments</a>, a long-time financial strategist and faithful servant leader. With over 40 years in the financial industry and regular appearances as a finance correspondent on CNBC and Bloomberg, Bob brings both economic insight and a gospel-centered mindset to wealth management.Together, Nicole and Bob talk about what it looks like to follow Jesus in a consumption society. Throughout their conversation, they emphasize that God doesn’t want our money—he wants us—challenging us to reassess how we define our own value. Bob offers practical wisdom on confronting the love of money, decluttering our lives, and living with an eternal perspective. He shares how he balances wealth with generosity while keeping the Kingdom of God front and center. If you’ve ever struggled to serve God with your finances or felt trapped in the iron grip of material wealth, this conversation is for you.Tune in now to discover how to live generously, steward well, and invest in eternal riches.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>The differences between temporary and eternal wealth</li><li>Living in freedom from the fear of scarcity</li><li>How to faithfully save, invest, and use our money</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.faithdriveninvestor.org/bios/bob-doll" rel="nofollow">Bob Doll</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.crossmarkglobal.com/" rel="nofollow">Crossmark Global Investments</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Martin</a></li><li>Read Nicole Martin’s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-GsEvmdGx7nX4PmCRokCiycTZOU6CDVx/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="http://ivpress.com" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$tDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Crucifying Materialism to Invest in Eternity with Bob Doll

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To whom have you given your loyalty? Who is loyal to you?A hallmark of modern leadership is the demand for unquestioning loyalty—loyalty to the boss, loyalty to the organization, loyalty to the vision.  But when loyalty is demanded instead of inspired, it can quietly become a weapon of control that quashes dissent, silences the vulnerable, and enables abuse.  And misplaced loyalties can create harmful power imbalances in even the most equitable organizations.In this episode of The Disrupters podcast, host Nicole Martin sits down with Dr. Natasha Sistrunk Robinson—writer, international speaker, leadership consultant, mentoring coach, and founder of <a href="https://www.leadershiplinksinc.org/" rel="nofollow">Leadership LINKS</a>, Inc. Natasha is a former Marine Corps officer, graduate of the US Naval Academy, and <a href="https://www.natashasrobinson.com/books" rel="nofollow">author of many books</a>, including <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/a-sojourner-s-truth?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">A Sojourner’s Truth</a>. With over two decades of leadership experience across the military, government, church, and nonprofit spaces, she brings clarity and conviction to what it means to lead with integrity and inspire loyalty to God.Natasha offers stories from her time in the military and the church, exposing how misplaced loyalty can cover abuse, silence victims, and keep leaders trapped in cycles of control. From church politics to mentoring dynamics, she names the hard truths: spiritual leaders are not immune to abusing people’s loyalty, and even Christians can be tempted to place their loyalty with people rather than with God. But she also shows a better way—how consistent meditation on God’s Word and practicing sacrificial leadership can inspire loyalty to God and his mission rather than to us and our own. Jesus never demanded loyalty, he invited people to follow. And healthy leaders should do the same. Tune in now.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>Practicing intentional, considerate, sacrificial leadership</li><li>Power dynamics, boundaries, and abuse of loyalty</li><li>How to lead to inspire loyalty to Jesus and his mission</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/natasha-sistrunk-robinson?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Natasha Sistrunk Robinson</a></li><li>Read Natasha Sistrunk Robinson’s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/a-sojourner-s-truth?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">A Sojourner’s Truth</a></li><li>Explore <a href="https://www.leadershiplinksinc.org/" rel="nofollow">Leadership LINKS</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Martin</a></li><li>Read Nicole Martin’s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bUz5EKI8CHDkPYTE3yjNYdr35ONdCEjU/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="https://www.ivpress.com?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$tDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Crucifying Loyalty to Protect the Poor and Powerless with Natasha Sistrunk Robinson

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What if your desire to “get it right” is the very thing preventing you from doing what God wants to do through you? We often cling to perfection because we fear loss. However, transformation and leading through change always demand it.In this episode of The Disrupters podcast, host Nicole Martin welcomes Tod Bolsinger, leadership expert, professor, and author of the new <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/practicing-change-series?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Practicing Change Series</a>, as well as <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/canoeing-the-mountains?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Canoeing the Mountains</a> and <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/tempered-resilience?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Tempered Resilience</a>. Tod is the founder of <a href="https://www.aesloanleadership.com/" rel="nofollow">AE Sloan Leadership</a> and serves as executive director of the DePree Center Church Leadership Institute. With decades of pastoral and consulting experience, he brings powerful wisdom on navigating real transformation in leadership, especially when the path forward is unclear, uncomfortable, and costly.In this engaging conversation, Tod challenges the myth of lossless leadership and invites us into the real work of adaptive change. He confronts the idol of perfectionism in leadership, showing how anxiety, ego, and the pressure to always know what to do frequently get in the way of real growth. He challenges Christians to stop expecting that following Jesus will be a comfortable, lossless process. Tod also shares how spiritual resilience is formed, not found, and how keeping a Jesus-centered view of organizational leadership requires pursuing the mission, never the brand. When we stop trying to control the outcome and instead join hands with others, we begin to move forward one faithful, imperfect step at a time. Because the goal isn’t about looking like you’ve got it all together. It’s about trusting God enough to lose what’s safe, so something eternal can rise in its place.Tune in now to discover what you need to lay down to lead with courage, clarity, and Christ at the center of everything.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>Crucifying perfection and embracing transformation</li><li>Leading through loss and adaptive change</li><li>Holding mission and identity above brand and image</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/tod-bolsinger?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Tod Bolsinger</a></li><li>Read Tod Bolsinger’s new series: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/practicing-change-series?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Practicing Change</a></li><li>Read Tod Bolsinger’s books: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/canoeing-the-mountains?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Canoeing the Mountains</a> and <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/tempered-resilience?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Tempered Resilience</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Martin</a></li><li>Read Nicole Martin’s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oxJ09zgtPDLox2wItZnX_Hsb6ncmUcvc/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="https://www.ivpress.com?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$tDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Crucifying Perfection to Lead Through Loss with Tod Bolsinger

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What if the influence you’re chasing is costing you a more valuable, eternal reward? In a culture obsessed with instant likes, applause, and relevance, many leaders are settling for temporary honor instead of eagerly seeking God’s praise. In this episode of The Disrupters podcast, host Nicole Martin sits down with Christine Caine—speaker, author, activist, and founder of A21, Propel Women, and Equip &amp; Empower. For over 30 years, Christine has served the global Church, fought human trafficking, and raised up women to walk boldly in their God-given purpose. She brings raw honesty and spiritual fire to this conversation, sharing what it really means to crucify our obsession with worldly influence and to influence the world for Jesus instead.Christine speaks with conviction about the difference between fame and faithfulness, urging us to surrender to God in the hard seasons that He uses to shape us. She challenges the idea that anointing is about being seen when it is more often forged in the dark—through obscurity, faith, failure, and years of preparation. As Christine shares stories of the cost of her own faithfulness, we’re reminded that real influence starts, is sustained, and ends in deep dependence on God. True influence is not about how many people follow you, but whether your life leads others to follow Jesus. Listen to the full episode now.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>Eternal rewards over temporary applause</li><li>God’s anointing as the source of true influence</li><li>Trusting God&#39;s process over platform-building</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://christinecaine.com/" rel="nofollow">Christine Caine</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Martin</a></li><li>Read Nicole Martin’s book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/194GsgF0EGqz6Mg3qAc5F6P67RiyrP3rA/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="https://www.ivpress.com?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$tDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Crucifying Influence to Pursue an Eternal Reward with Christine Caine

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Have you ever caught yourself craving applause more than God’s praise? In a culture that thrives on followers, likes, and platforms, it’s dangerously easy to let our egos take the lead. But what if leadership was never meant to be about who sees you, but about how you radically serve others? What if true authority isn’t marked by the applause you receive from people, but by the joy you receive from God? That’s the message that Jesus taught when he said, “For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to lay down his life as a ransom for many.”In this episode of The Disrupters podcast, host Nicole Martin sits down with Chrishan Jeyaratnam, lead pastor at Hillsong East Coast. From growing up between cultures in Australia to leading one of the largest and most recognizable church communities in the world, Chrishan’s story is full of challenges, grace, and humble leadership. With profound vulnerability, he opens up about what it takes to tame the ego and stay grounded in God&#39;s love while standing on even the largest stages.Chrishan shares his personal story—from navigating identity as a child of Sri Lankan immigrants in Australia to leading a global church in the heart of New York City. Along the way, he confesses the hidden weight many leaders quietly carry: the pressure to perform and the applause that feeds the ego. He reflects on how easy it is to confuse public affirmation with spiritual authority, and how even good intentions can become entangled with pride. But instead of shame, he offers a freeing truth: you don’t have to destroy your ego, you have to anchor it. Through contemplative silence, emotional intimacy with others, and a deep understanding of God’s unwavering delight, he urges leaders to stop leading for love and start leading from love. Because God’s message to his people isn’t just “Be strong”—it’s “Be still and know that I am God.” We invite you to join us in crucifying our egos together. Engage in God’s joy, feel his pleasure in your calling, and start leading from a place of wholeness and humility. Listen to the episode now!This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>The essential, daily discipline of crucifying ego in leadership</li><li>Narcissism, pride, and how societies reward self-centeredness</li><li>Leading for God’s praise instead of worldly affirmation</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://hillsong.com/contributors/contributor/chrishan-jeyaratnam/" rel="nofollow">Chrishan Jeyaratnam</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Martin</a></li><li>Read Nicole Martin’s Book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wWwoTla1z0PyJWKzM1UJuUAhW1siHXz4/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="https://www.ivpress.com?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$tDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Crucifying Ego to Receive God’s Praise with Chrishan Jeyaratnam

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True power isn’t about control—it’s about surrender. When the world demands dominance, Jesus calls us to be servants, people who are a witness to God’s power by the way we live in “with-ness” with others.In this first episode of the sixth season of The Disrupters podcast, Hosanna Wong joins host Nicole Martin to tackle one of the most common leadership idols: Power. Wong is an international speaker, bestselling author, and spoken word artist. Known for her powerful piece “<a href="https://www.hosannawong.com/ihaveanewname" rel="nofollow">I Have A New Name</a>,” she challenges us in this episode to embrace the truth that God’s power actually is made perfect in our weakness. Her latest book, “<a href="https://amzn.to/3FPbzHX" rel="nofollow">You Are More Than What You&#39;ve Been Told</a>,” unpacks how God&#39;s love for us overshadows what the world says about us.In this conversation, we’re confronting what it means to crucify our own power so that we can lead in God’s divine power instead. Step into the freedom of sharing the Good News with people, not holding it over them. Discover the hope found in real relationships and learn what it means to stay rooted in God&#39;s power, even when the pressures of leading become overwhelming. Be encouraged to trust God more deeply as Wong shares a story about her brother Elijah, a testament to the impact of God’s miraculous power in her own life.Be inspired. Be challenged. Be disrupted. Tune in to discover how the power of God’s love can heal and transform us and our leadership practices.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>Leading in God’s power when you are powerless</li><li>Authenticity and humility in leadership</li><li>The impact of God&#39;s love over worldly power</li></ul>Links from the episode:<ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.hosannawong.com/about" rel="nofollow">Hosanna Wong</a></li><li>Read Hosanna Wong’s book: <a href="https://amzn.to/3FPbzHX" rel="nofollow">You Are More Than What You&#39;ve Been Told</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Martin</a></li><li>Read Nicole Martin’s Book: <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a></li><li>Read the transcript <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FS4yqifslr_PGBfdzl6LixXzO0zPtRrO/view?usp=drive_link" rel="nofollow">here</a></li></ul>Credits:✅Special offer: Visit <a href="https://www.ivpress.com?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$tDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship.As an Amazon Affiliate, this channel earns commissions from qualifying purchases when you use the links above.  Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Crucifying Power to Lead in Your Weakness with Hosanna Wong

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The world is undergoing a crisis of leadership.Traditional models of leadership are no longer serving institutions and their constituents well.Leaders need new, innovative paradigms to counter the status quo and to serve their organizations.In season six of The Disrupters, host Nicole Massie Martin, IVP author and chief operating officer at Christianity Today, reveals healthy leadership disruptions that lead to flourishing in the home, the workplace, the church, and the world.Martin converses with pastors, executives, parents, activists, and influencers like Hosanna Wong, Tod Bolsinger, and Christine Caine to inspire us to crucify our leadership idols and nail our outdated leadership practices to the cross.Join Nicole Massie Martin as she explores the ways that Christians can disrupt unhealthy leadership structures and practices.Subscribe now on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-disrupters-faith-changing-culture/id1495107302" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1UBGLKZUqxB6svAYsIPKPX" rel="nofollow">Spotify</a>, or watch on the <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLS0Lg51WigeiiwrqgxAA54EUttthl5y_&si=9w8T6NTbLxdTBdPy" rel="nofollow">IVP YouTube</a> channel.Season six of The Disrupters kicks off on April 9th.Links and Credits<ul><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/the-disrupters-podcast?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">The Disrupters</a></li><li>Learn more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nicole-massie-martin?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nicole Massie Martin</a></li><li>Read <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/nailing-it?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Nailing It</a> by Nicole Massie Martin</li></ul>✅Special offer: Visit <a href="https://www.ivpress.com?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅Producers: Jack Reece and Travis Albritton✅Executive Producer: Helen Lee✅Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅Theme Song: &#34;Something Else&#34; by Nu Alkemi$t Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Season 6 Trailer: Disrupting Leadership Practices

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Today is the day after the U.S. presidential election. As the results are being announced, we come together to pause and reflect on the truth about our calling to love God and love people in the neighborhoods, towns, and cities in which we live.In these three bonus episodes of the fifth season of The Disrupters, host <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/miranda-zapor-cruz?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Miranda Zapor Cruz</a> asks the question, &#34;What does it mean to disrupt ourselves—and the noise?&#34; during an election season? Join Miranda as she offers a disruption in the noise surrounding Election Day 2024 through meditations on her book <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/faithful-politics?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Faithful Politics</a>, accompanied by relevant Scripture readings, to combat the anxiety and uncertainties that accompany the selection of our next president. Together, these episodes educate, inspire, and reassure listeners who seek a healthy posture this election year, for the health of their souls as well as for the flourishing of their communities.In this episode, releasing the day after Election Day 2024, Miranda offers a reflection on the unchanged calling of all Christians—to seek shalom where we live. She emphasizes that as Christians, we must join with Jesus Christ in loving and serving our neighbors and promoting the wellbeing of our towns and cities. This episode also features a reading of Jeremiah 29:4-14 from The First Testament, read by IVP authors <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/jay-y-kim?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Jay Kim</a>, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/carmen-joy-imes?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Carmen Imes</a>, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/dorena-williamson?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Dorena Williamson</a>, and <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/robert-chao-romero?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Robert Chao Romero</a>.Join us as we disrupt the noise of Election Day 2024 together. Links from this episode:<ul><li>Get to know more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/miranda-zapor-cruz?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Miranda Zapor Cruz</a></li><li>Check out Miranda’s book, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/faithful-politics?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Faithful Politics</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/the-first-testament?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">The First Testament</a> by John Goldingay</li><li><a href="https://www.netgalley.com/catalog/book/452033" rel="nofollow">Additional IVP Resources 2024 Election Season</a></li></ul> Links and Credits✅ Special offer: Visit<a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow"> ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅ Producers: Jack Reece and Helen Lee✅ Assistant Producer: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅ Sound Engineering: Jack Reece✅ Social Media Managers: Allie Noble and Makayla Payne✅ Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅ Theme Song: &#34;Half Life&#34; by Adi Goldstein Disclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Disrupting the Noise: After the Results of the Election

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Today is the day of the U.S. presidential election. While we wait for the results to be counted, we come together to pause and reflect on the truth about our ultimate hope in the return of our eternal king, Jesus Christ.In these three bonus episodes of the fifth season of The Disrupters, host <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/miranda-zapor-cruz?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Miranda Zapor Cruz</a> asks the question, &#34;What does it mean to disrupt ourselves—and the noise?&#34; during an election season? Join Miranda as she offers a disruption in the noise surrounding Election Day 2024 through meditations on her book <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/faithful-politics?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Faithful Politics</a>, accompanied by relevant Scripture readings, to combat the anxiety and uncertainties that accompany the selection of our next president. Together, these episodes educate, inspire, and reassure listeners who seek a healthy posture this election year, for the health of their souls as well as for the flourishing of their communities.In this episode, releasing Election Day 2024, Miranda offers a reflection on the eternal hope that we have in Jesus Christ. She emphasizes that as Christians, we are citizens of God’s kingdom and waiting for the U.S. election results must pale in comparison to waiting for the return of our savior, Jesus Christ. This episode also features a reading of Philippians 3:20-4:1 from The Second Testament, read by IVP authors <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/scot-mcknight?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Scot McKnight</a>, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/lynn-h-cohick?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Lynn Cohick</a>, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/terence-lester?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Terence Lester</a>, and <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/prasanta-verma?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Prasanta Verma</a>.Join us as we disrupt the noise of Election Day 2024 together. Links from this episode:<ul><li>Get to know more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/miranda-zapor-cruz?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Miranda Zapor Cruz</a></li><li>Check out Miranda’s book, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/faithful-politics?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Faithful Politics</a></li><li>Check out <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/the-second-testament?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">The Second Testament</a> by Scot McKnight</li><li><a href="https://www.netgalley.com/catalog/book/452033" rel="nofollow">Additional IVP Resources 2024 Election Season</a></li></ul> Links and Credits✅ Special offer: Visit<a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow"> ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅ Producers: Jack Reece and Helen Lee✅ Assistant Producer: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅ Sound Engineering: Jack Reece✅ Social Media Managers: Allie Noble and Makayla Payne✅ Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅ Theme Song: &#34;Half Life&#34; by Adi Goldstein Disclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Disrupting the Noise: While You Wait on Election Day

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Today is the day before the U.S. presidential election. Before we vote, we come together to pause and reflect on the truth about who we are and whose we are in Jesus Christ.In these three bonus episodes of the fifth season of The Disrupters, host <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/miranda-zapor-cruz?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Miranda Zapor Cruz</a> asks the question, &#34;What does it mean to disrupt ourselves—and the noise?&#34; during an election season? Join Miranda as she offers a disruption in the noise surrounding Election Day 2024 through meditations on her book <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/faithful-politics?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Faithful Politics</a>, accompanied by relevant Scripture readings, to combat the anxiety and uncertainties that accompany the selection of our next president. Together, these episodes educate, inspire, and reassure listeners who seek a healthy posture this election year, for the health of their souls as well as for the flourishing of their communities.In this episode, releasing the day before Election Day 2024, Miranda offers a reflection on the importance of Christian identity in the context of the United States presidential election. She emphasizes that Christian identity is built upon Jesus Christ—the chief cornerstone and “living lodgepole” —rather than political parties or ideologies. This episode also features a reading of 1 Peter 2:4-12 from the First Nations Version, read by IVP authors <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/terry-m-wildman?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Terry Wildman</a>, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/chloe-t-sun?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Chloe Sun</a>, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/amy-l-williams?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Amy Williams</a>, and <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/michael-f-bird?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Michael Bird</a>.Join us as we disrupt the noise of Election Day 2024 together. Links from this episode:<ul><li>Get to know more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/miranda-zapor-cruz?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Miranda Zapor Cruz</a></li><li>Check out Miranda’s book, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/faithful-politics?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Faithful Politics</a></li><li>Check out the <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/first-nations-version?utm_medium=ivp_dsr&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">First Nations Version</a>, edited by Terry M. Wildman</li><li><a href="https://www.netgalley.com/catalog/book/452033" rel="nofollow">Additional IVP Resources for the 2024 Election Season</a></li></ul> Links and Credits✅ Special offer: Visit<a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow"> ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅ Producers: Jack Reece and Helen Lee✅ Assistant Producer: Christine Pelliccio Melo✅ Sound Engineering: Jack Reece✅ Social Media Managers: Allie Noble and Makayla Payne✅ Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅ Theme Song: &#34;Half Life&#34; by Adi Goldstein Disclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Disrupting the Noise: Before You Vote in the Election

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For some, engaging in politics looks like watching particular cable news or social media networks and then amplifying whatever voices align with their own particular values or biases. But perhaps the key to healthy political engagement isn’t about spending time watching C-SPAN, but instead is about focusing on the people we are becoming.In this last episode of season 5 of The Disrupters, Kaitlyn Schiess welcomes Michael Wear, founder of the <a href="https://www.ccpubliclife.org/" rel="nofollow">Center for Christianity and Public Life</a>. Together they explore the necessity of spiritual formation as an essential part of civic involvement and discuss the “election stress syndrome” that many have experienced after 2016. Wear also offers insights from his upcoming book <a href="https://amzn.to/3Y5A7D9" rel="nofollow">The Spirit of Our Politics</a> to challenge conventional ideas of what it means to be a faithful Christian in the realm of politics.Tune into this fascinating conversation on navigating the intersection of faith and politics with wisdom and grace.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>The spiritual discipline of political engagement or abstention</li><li>Distinction between meaningful political participation and political passivity</li><li>The role of character and deep listening in transforming political discourse</li></ul>Links from this episode:<ul><li>Get to know more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/michael-wear?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Michael Wear</a></li><li>Learn more about the <a href="https://www.ccpubliclife.org/" rel="nofollow">Center for Christianity and Public Life</a></li><li>Check out Wear’s IVP book, <a href="https://ivpress.com/compassion-conviction?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Compassion (&amp;) Conviction</a></li><li>Check out Wear’s upcoming book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3XLere9" rel="nofollow">The Spirit of Our Politics</a></li><li>Uncover insights from <a href="https://amzn.to/3ztEEWM" rel="nofollow">Politics is for Power</a> by Eitan Hersh</li><li>Read the document, <a href="https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/montgomery-improvement-association-mia" rel="nofollow">Montgomery Improvement Association</a> </li><li>Learn About Mack McCarter, Founder of <a href="https://communityrenewal.us/project/the-courage-to-dream-again/" rel="nofollow">Community Renewal in Louisiana</a></li><li>Learn About the Impact of <a href="https://www.leadforamerica.org/" rel="nofollow">Lead for America</a>, American Connection Corps</li></ul> For its fifth season, hosted by <a href="http://kaitlynschiess.com/" rel="nofollow">Kaitlyn Schiess</a>, The Disrupters podcast from IVP asks the question, &#34;What does it mean to disrupt ourselves?&#34; Join Kaitlyn as she explores the ways that Christians can prepare themselves—spiritually, emotionally, and relationally—to faithfully disrupt the church and the world. Pastors, scholars, activists, and therapists share their own experiences of formation and transformation to educate and inspire listeners who seek lasting change, both within themselves and in their communities. Other links✅ Special offer: Visit<a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅ Producers: Maila Kim, <a href="https://ivpress.com/helen-lee" rel="nofollow">Helen Lee</a>, Travis Albritton, and Andrew Bronson✅ Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅ Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅ Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio and Isis Toldson✅ Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅ Theme Song: &#34;People&#34; by LightmuzikDisclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship.As an Amazon Affiliate, this channel earns commissions from qualifying purchases when you use the links above. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Avoiding Politics as Entertainment with Michael Wear

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When surrounded by all the needs in the world, people can become overwhelmed and paralyzed to even begin to engage politically if at all. But instead of thinking about every issue to engage in, perhaps the way forward is to find areas of deep focus and personal interest.In this fascinating dive into the convergence of personal faith and public life, host Kaitlyn Schiess welcomes Kathryn Freeman, a voice of experience at the intersection of theology and political advocacy. Freeman&#39;s journey is a testament to the power of pursuing deeply personal issues as the means to shape one’s public advocacy. Her nuanced understanding of political theology, shaped by both African American church traditions and seminary education, provides crucial insight into how churches and believers can navigate the everyday needs in their communities without getting overwhelmed by the broader political landscape.Tune in to this episode to discover healthy ways to pursue local political engagement in a sustainable manner that reflects Christ-led, neighborly love.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>The need to limit oneself in political involvement</li><li>The profound political legacy of the African American church</li><li>Relationship-building and its significance in community advocacy</li></ul>Links from this episode:<ul><li>Get to know more about <a href="https://www.kathrynafreeman.com/about" rel="nofollow">Kathryn Freeman</a></li></ul> For its fifth season, hosted by <a href="http://kaitlynschiess.com/" rel="nofollow">Kaitlyn Schiess</a>, The Disrupters podcast from IVP asks the question, &#34;What does it mean to disrupt ourselves?&#34; Join Kaitlyn as she explores the ways that Christians can prepare themselves—spiritually, emotionally, and relationally—to faithfully disrupt the church and the world. Pastors, scholars, activists, and therapists share their own experiences of formation and transformation to educate and inspire listeners who seek lasting change, both within themselves and in their communities. Other links✅ Special offer: Visit<a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅ Producers: Maila Kim, <a href="https://ivpress.com/helen-lee" rel="nofollow">Helen Lee</a>, Travis Albritton, and Andrew Bronson✅ Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅ Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅ Production Assistant: Christine Pelliccio and Isis Toldson✅ Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅ Theme Song: &#34;People&#34; by Lightmuzik Disclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

The Power of Focus in Political Involvement with Kathryn Freeman

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The impact of empire has far-reaching implications for the church, the nation, and the world. Even Christians who would claim that the kingdom of heaven is the only true ultimate rule and reign can find themselves complicit in supporting and furthering the empires of our current age.Former presidential candidate Mark Charles wanted to show a different way forward, using the political process to speak truth to power. In this thought-provoking episode, host Kaitlyn Schiess speaks with Charles about lessons learned from his political run and the ways in which trauma has had a particular impact on the white majority in this country.With a focus on healing historical trauma and rethinking the two-party system, Charles shares a compelling vision for a more inclusive and just future. His perspectives on political reform and communal trauma are not to be missed.Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how history shapes modern politics and explore ways to contribute to a more just and equitable society.This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>The influence of historical trauma on contemporary politics</li><li>The damaging effects of the two-party system on American society</li><li>Confronting and dismantling systemic white supremacist ideologies</li></ul>Links from this episode:<ul><li>Get to know more about <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/mark-charles?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Mark Charles</a></li><li>Check out his book co-authored with Soong-Chan Rah, <a href="https://www.ivpress.com/unsettling-truths?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">Unsettling Truths</a></li><li>Check out Rachel MacNair’s book, <a href="https://amzn.to/4eHlSKj" rel="nofollow">Perpetration-Induced Traumatic Stress</a></li></ul> For its fifth season, hosted by <a href="http://kaitlynschiess.com/" rel="nofollow">Kaitlyn Schiess</a>, The Disrupters podcast from IVP asks the question, &#34;What does it mean to disrupt ourselves?&#34; Join Kaitlyn as she explores the ways that Christians can prepare themselves—spiritually, emotionally, and relationally—to faithfully disrupt the church and the world. Pastors, scholars, activists, and therapists share their own experiences of formation and transformation to educate and inspire listeners who seek lasting change, both within themselves and in their communities. Other links✅ Special offer: Visit<a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅ Producers: Maila Kim, <a href="https://ivpress.com/helen-lee" rel="nofollow">Helen Lee</a>, Travis Albritton, and Andrew Bronson✅ Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅ Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅ Production Assistant: Isis Toldson and Christine Pelliccio✅ Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅ Theme Song: &#34;People&#34; by Lightmuzik Disclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship.As an Amazon Affiliate, this channel earns commissions from qualifying purchases when you use the links above. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

Using Politics to Stand Against Empire with Mark Charles

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For many Christians, disillusionment with the church has become more common as a result of institutional distrust and trauma. But internal confusion can also present people with an opportunity for self-examination and contemplation.In this episode, renowned theologian and ethicist Russell Moore joins Kaitlyn Schiess to discuss the essential work of self-reflection, accountability, and honesty in the face of cynicism. Through prayer, Scripture reading, and engagement in community, Moore encourages listeners to grow from the positive aspects of processing disillusionment. What can it mean to be sober-minded, hopeful, and discerning in institutional or political spaces come 2024? Moore suggests that reckoning together with the uncertainty of what lies ahead may be a communal starting place for the church.Tune in to be challenged by this week’s theme: that personal, internal repair must precede external progress. This episode highlights the following themes:<ul><li>Processing betrayal, cynicism, and wisdom</li><li>Observing and learning from both positive and negative role models</li><li>Discerning a faithful attitude for the 2024 election season</li></ul> Links from this episode:<ul><li>Listen to <a href="https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/russell-moore-show/" rel="nofollow">The Russell Moore Show</a></li><li>Follow Russell Moore on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/russellmoore" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a></li><li>Read Russell&#39;s book, <a href="https://amzn.to/3TSVLYR" rel="nofollow">Losing Our Religion</a></li></ul> For its fifth season, hosted by <a href="http://kaitlynschiess.com/" rel="nofollow">Kaitlyn Schiess</a>, The Disrupters podcast from IVP asks the question, &#34;What does it mean to disrupt ourselves?&#34; Join Kaitlyn as she explores the ways that Christians can prepare themselves—spiritually, emotionally, and relationally—to faithfully disrupt the church and the world. Pastors, scholars, activists, and therapists share their own experiences of formation and transformation to educate and inspire listeners who seek lasting change, both within themselves and in their communities. Other links✅ Special offer: Visit<a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="https://www.ivpress.com/?utm_medium=ivp_tde&utm_source=ivpod25" rel="nofollow">ivpress.com</a> and use the code IVPOD25 for 25% off any IVP resource mentioned in this episode.✅ Producers: Maila Kim, <a href="https://ivpress.com/helen-lee" rel="nofollow">Helen Lee</a>, Travis Albritton, and Andrew Bronson✅ Sound Engineering: <a href="https://honestpodcasts.com/" rel="nofollow">Honest Podcasts</a>✅ Social Media Manager: Allie Noble✅ Production Assistants: Isis Toldson and Christine Pelliccio✅ Podcast Art: Kate Lillard✅ Theme Song: &#34;People&#34; by Lightmuzik Disclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship.As an Amazon Affiliate, this channel earns commissions from qualifying purchases when you use the links above. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a>

How Disillusionment Can Lead to Positive Change with Russell Moore

Before we disrupt the church and our culture, how can we disrupt ourselves?

Seasons 1 and 2 of The Disrupters podcast asked the question, "What does it mean to disrupt the church?" Seasons 3 and 4 asked the question, "What does it mean to disrupt culture?"

For its fifth season, hosted by Kaitlyn Schiess, The Disrupters podcast from IVP asks the question, "What does it mean to disrupt ourselves?" Join Kaitlyn as she explores the ways that Christians can prepare themselves—spiritually, emotionally, and relationally—to faithfully disrupt the church and the world. Pastors, scholars, activists, and therapists share their own experiences of formation and transformation to educate and inspire listeners who seek lasting change, both within themselves and in their communities.