The Special Guest Ref Podcast takes you behind the curtain of pro wrestling from the perspective of referee Thomas Kearins and those around him over the last 15 years.This podcast is about the stories of those people, the ones who’ve been there through the ups and downs, from small independent shows in front of five people, to the rise of ICW, the “British wrestling boom,” and WWE planting their flag in the UK.

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Everyone&#39;s journey in pro wrestling is different.In 2007, I walked through the doors of my first wrestling training session, years before I knew I would become a referee.Here, I speak to the Top of the Scots podcast at University of the West of Scotland about how I became a pro wrestling referee, and the importance of saying &#34;yes&#34;!Follow wrestling referee Thomas Kearins on social media:Instagram: <a href="http://instagram.com/thomaskearinsreferee" rel="nofollow">instagram.com/thomaskearinsreferee</a>Facebook: <a href="http://facebook.com/thomaskearinsreferee" rel="nofollow">facebook.com/thomaskearinsreferee</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@wrestlingref" rel="nofollow">youtube.com/@wrestlingre</a><a href="http://youtube.com/wrestlingref" rel="nofollow">f</a>TikTok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@thomas_kearins" rel="nofollow">@thomas_kearins</a>X: <a href="http://www.x.com/thomaskearins" rel="nofollow">@thomaskearins</a>

How to Become a Pro Wrestling Referee

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Why do people become wrestling referees? In this short clip from my Top of the Scots interview with the University of the West of Scotland, I break down the number one reason most wrestlers actually start out as referees!Follow wrestling referee Thomas Kearins on social media:Instagram: <a href="http://instagram.com/thomaskearinsreferee" rel="nofollow">instagram.com/thomaskearinsreferee</a>Facebook: <a href="http://facebook.com/thomaskearinsreferee" rel="nofollow">facebook.com/thomaskearinsreferee</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@wrestlingref" rel="nofollow">youtube.com/@wrestlingre</a><a href="http://youtube.com/wrestlingref" rel="nofollow">f</a>TikTok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@thomas_kearins" rel="nofollow">@thomas_kearins</a>X: <a href="http://www.x.com/thomaskearins" rel="nofollow">@thomaskearins</a>

The #1 Reason People Become Wrestling Referees

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From watching wrestling superstars on tv to working with them in the ring, I speak to the Top of the Scots podcast at University of West of Scotland about the #1 thing nobody tells you about working with WWE Superstars as a pro wrestling referee. Follow wrestling referee Thomas Kearins on social media:Instagram: <a href="http://instagram.com/thomaskearinsreferee" rel="nofollow">instagram.com/thomaskearinsreferee</a>Facebook: <a href="http://facebook.com/thomaskearinsreferee" rel="nofollow">facebook.com/thomaskearinsreferee</a>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@wrestlingref" rel="nofollow">youtube.com/@wrestlingre</a><a href="http://youtube.com/wrestlingref" rel="nofollow">f</a>TikTok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@thomas_kearins" rel="nofollow">@thomas_kearins</a>X: <a href="http://www.x.com/thomaskearins" rel="nofollow">@thomaskearins</a>

#1 Thing Nobody Tells You About Working with WWE Superstars

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On this episode of Special Guest Ref I&#39;m joined by Asylum wrestling school standout and one of ICW&#39;s hottest prospects, Ben Rodgers.

Special Guest Ref Podcast – Bonus Episode 1: Wrestler Ben Rodgers

The Special Guest Ref Podcast takes you behind the curtain of pro wrestling from the perspective of referee Thomas Kearins and those around him over the last 15 years.

This podcast is about the stories of those people, the ones who’ve been there through the ups and downs, from small independent shows in front of five people, to the rise of ICW, the “British wrestling boom,” and WWE planting their flag in the UK.