Everyone's journey in pro wrestling is different.

In 2007, I walked through the doors of my first wrestling training session, years before I knew I would become a referee.

Here, I speak to the Top of the Scots podcast at University of the West of Scotland about how I became a pro wrestling referee, and the importance of saying "yes"!

Follow wrestling referee Thomas Kearins on social media:

Instagram: instagram.com/thomaskearinsreferee

Facebook: facebook.com/thomaskearinsreferee

YouTube: youtube.com/@wrestlingref

TikTok: @thomas_kearins

X: @thomaskearins

Why do people become wrestling referees? In this short clip from my Top of the Scots interview with the University of the West of Scotland, I break down the number one reason most wrestlers actually start out as referees!

Follow wrestling referee Thomas Kearins on social media:

Instagram: instagram.com/thomaskearinsreferee

Facebook: facebook.com/thomaskearinsreferee

YouTube: youtube.com/@wrestlingref

TikTok: @thomas_kearins

X: @thomaskearins

From watching wrestling superstars on tv to working with them in the ring, I speak to the Top of the Scots podcast at University of West of Scotland about the #1 thing nobody tells you about working with WWE Superstars as a pro wrestling referee.

Follow wrestling referee Thomas Kearins on social media:

Instagram: instagram.com/thomaskearinsreferee

Facebook: facebook.com/thomaskearinsreferee

YouTube: youtube.com/@wrestlingref

TikTok: @thomas_kearins

X: @thomaskearins

On this episode of Special Guest Ref I'm joined by Asylum wrestling school standout and one of ICW's hottest prospects, Ben Rodgers.