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Ep 9 : What the future holds for MHP

1h 30m | Mar 28, 2022

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[Owls]: That's if you want. I took a drink of my Dunkin’s and it fucking splashed onto my glasses.

[Joker]: Oh, is that why you were struggling with them?

[Owls]: I was like, what the fuck? Of course, I would take a fucking drink in there.

[Intro to Podcast Music]

[Joker]: She had a lot of spews in her face.

[Owls]: Yeah. Should be used to it by now.

[Joker]: Oh Okay. Should be used to it by now, she says. By the way, what do you think about our new background?

[Owls]: Oh, it's like a brick wall. I like it.

[Joker]: Yeah.

[Owls]: And it has the name on the top. I like it.

[Joker]: Yeah. Eventually I'll change some other things, but until then, this is what we got.

[Owls]: I like it. It's noise. Cool.

[Joker]: I'm glad you likes. I mean, do we really need to do the intro? Because there's really no intro except for music for this one, I would think. Right?

[Owls]: That's how you want to do it?

[Joker]: I don't know. That's the thing.

[Owls]: Intro.

[Joker]: All right, fuck it. Good enough. Good as time as any. Take it away. Owls.

[Owls]: You want to do the whole thing like I normally do?

[Joker}: Yeah sure, why not? Fuck it.

[Owls]: All right. Welcome to the Madhouse Presents Group Therapy, where we talk about games, argue about our different viewpoints, dive into the strange or whatever we decide in the moment. I am Owls and this is Joker

[Joker]: Hello.

[Owls]: And today we're going to discuss some upcoming changes.

[Intro to Podcast Music]

[Joker]: As far as what we got going on for the future. One of the big things is we're going to be going to less weekly structured episodes. What we were kind of discussing was going into the interview realm a little bit, but instead of doing it every week, we'll do an interview roughly every other week with small streamers or not so famous streamers. And maybe, hell, if one day we get lucky, we could probably do a large streamer.

[Owls]: And we could also interview them.

[Joker]: Yes. And interview them.

[Joker]: Well yeah so, talking to other streamers, content creators and seeing what they do, what they wish they would have done or.

[Owls]: Hey, whatever we want to talk about.

[Joker]: Whatever the fuck we want to talk about, get to know them so everybody listening anywhere that you're listening, whether it be audio side only or on the live recording here on Twitch.tv/theMadhousepodcast. Let us know content creators’, streamers, YouTubers, YouTube streamers, whatever.

[Owls]: Or put yourself up.

[Joker]: Yeah or put yourself up. You can do it one of two ways. In the Discord, if you're a part of the Madhouse Discord, you can go to reply to the stream. It is or should be available, reply to the Cast.

[Owls]: I forgot I named it so cheesily.

[Joker]: Reply to the Cast under the Group Therapy podcast section. Let us know who you want myself or Owls to interview and that will be done every other week. So, if we did start next week, then we would skip a week where probably two Wednesdays from now is when we'll probably start the X Men series or X Men Universe series where we sit and talk about every X Men movie.

[Owls]: Should we go now?

[Joker]: Here's the question. Should we go in line of movie release, or should we go timeline wise?

[Owls]: I feel like...

[Joker]: Because X Men Universe timeline is really fucked up.

[Owls]: It's so fucked up. I'm literally talking about this today because there are so many fucking loopholes in this thing. I feel like the only way to do it is in release because then we can talk about those loopholes.

[Joker]: Yeah, because I was going to say there's more timeline deviance than there is in Marvel.

[Owls]: It's ridiculous. Like things don't make sense. And I'm just like, wait, then if this is happening before then, how did we get to that? Okay, we'll go through it. But there's a lot of things. Like, I was like, there's no way. What? That doesn't make any sense based on the first ones they released, which are the present tense, I guess. I don't know.

[Joker]: [agreement sound]

[Owls]: So, I feel like release orders is probably best, but then maybe we can kind of touch on like, if they were to have done it timeline wise, what it would have looked like, but there's so many plot holes that wouldn't have made sense.

 [Joker]: Yeah.

[Owls]: It's almost like they released them and then said, yeah, fuck the original movies. We don't have to go by what happened at the end.

[Joker]: Oooh, I got an idea. Why don't we go through the release order first…?

[Owls]: [agreement sound]

[Joker]: And then after we've done all of that, we can go back and do another

[Owls]: Poke at the plot holes.

[Joker]: Poke at the timeline side of it and see what could have changed from the timeline side.

[Owls]: Yeah. Why it's so different.

[Joker]: We're definitely going to need a note taker for this. Holy fuck. Because this is going to be ridiculous.

[Owls]: Yeah, I'm here for it, though. I'm telling you, X Men is my jam. Love it

[Joker]: All right, so that's one thing that's going to happen. Throughout from next week on, I'm hoping I'll be able to find someone, if not, Madhouse reach out. We'll see who. Because I have one person in mind that I would like to prod their mind and…

[Owls]: and I have one for you as well.

[Joker]: IAmBPala.

[Owls]: Okay. Yeah.

[Joker]: He's one that has actually rated me as well, and he's excited to see me, so I'm excited to hang out and

[Owls]: [agreement sound]

[Joker]: Pick his brain because he is primarily a YouTube content creator. He got a very successful channel there. Also a not so big Twitch streamer. I don't want to discredit the man because he's got almost 5000 followers on Twitch and he averages from what since I've been part of his Twitch community from following after the raid and everything, he's definitely averaged or double digits for sure. So there's that.

[Owls]: I've got a couple that I could reach out to that are partner as well, possibly.

[Joker]: Okay, speaking of IAmBPala, it's his birthday today, so IAmBPala.

[Owls]: Special shout out to you. If you're here, let me know and I'll sing to you.

[Joker]: He is not. He's actually at dinner. It looks like birthday party.

[Owls]: If he shows up for whatever reason, I will stop everything I'm doing and I will sing obnoxiously loud.

 [Joker]: Fuck yeah.

[Owls]: I've got a couple of people that we should look into for sure.

[Joker]: Awesome sauce

[Owls]: And then even if we don't do it. So a good option is not necessarily interviewing other people. But if people have questions, they want to ask us about our lives in general. If we get enough questions, we could use that as an interview for each other. Like one week, I could interview you on your life and vice versa.

[Joker]: Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. That does sound good. So, yeah, the interview section or part of it probably will list as a different thing on the podcast and here on Twitch. It won't be in the linear. So, episode ten, official episode ten will be the first episode that we talk about The X Men series.

[Owls]: Yeah, definitely. We could do a commonly asked questions episode. By commonly asked, what does that mean, though?

[Joker]: We got to get asked questions commonly. That's the other part. No one is interacting, though.

[Owls]: Well, the thing, it's not necessarily the interaction, but what is commonly asked questions? Like how are you?

[Joker]: How are you? Who is your Daddy and what does he do?

[Owls]: What does he do?

[Joker]: Okay, well, my Daddy's dead and he is probably, I don't know, probably bone by now, maybe marrow at this point. Who knows? I mean, it depends on the ground worms.

[Owls]: Oh, my God, you get so dark with that. Holy shit. Mine. I just don't talk too much, and I have no idea what he does.

[Joker]: Okay, so revisiting our who are we kind of episode when we do that…

[Owls]: Kind of, but like, less into the gaming aspect, but more just like our lives. Just who we are. Why are we the way that we are?

[Joker]: Yeah

[Owls]: Or what's my favorite color? Why is it my favorite color? What's my favorite animal? Things like that. Pets.

[Joker]: Yes.

[Owls]: It could be just who we are.

[Joker]: Yeah, like I said, that's why I created the Twitter for the channel, so that we can have that aspect. Because I do know a lot of people. There is an email, actually. So, I will make even a Google form and put that as a banner down below a link to that as far as: “hey, what are your questions for us” or in general and have that as a banner down below a link to that form and it will email directly to Madhouse@nlmp.org. Yes, there's a Twitter. It is Twitter MHPGroup therapy. It does exist. If you look in the about section below, there is a link to it, I believe. No, there's not. Holy fuck. I did not put a link to that. Son of a slut.

[Owls]: Son of a slut. Wow.

[Joker]: Yeah. Well, fuck me. All right, well, I'll work on that real quick since the next real major announcement needs to come from Owls anyway.

[Owls]: So kind of what we discussed recently is my involvement. So I'm having a good time mostly. Most of the time.

[Joker]: Most of the time.

[Owls]: Most of the time when I'm not stressed out, I definitely have a lot of stress personally in my life and in a way to alleviate I may not be as present every week. So what we've kind of discussed is maybe switching me to an every other week kind of thing where I'm not there 100% of the time. It gives me more time to kind of decompress, to think about the next topic, to focus on giving it my all. So I don't want to go away completely because I do want to be a part of this. And Jokers expressed that he would like me to be a part of this. Yeah, he doesn't want to. So we definitely discussed just lowering the amount that I'm doing just to alleviate some of the pressure that I am experiencing, that I wanted to go ahead and step back from being 100% of the time and I'll still be here probably in the background doing more of the admin stuff on the weeks that I'm not actually on camera. If I feel like I want to be a part of more episodes, of course I will step in. But at this point I think that we've discussed me being one week on, one week off.

[Joker]: Yeah. And that's where that decision came from.

[Owls]: Griff just sent me the timeline. I'll have to look at it. I just finished watching Dark Phoenix, so I'm in the middle of watching New Mutants.

[Joker]: Fuck, I got to watch that one too. Son of a bitch. I forgot about that.

[Owls]: You have some more time. You're fine. So, we have more time for that.

[Joker]: Because that's towards the end anyway.

[Owls]: Yeah.

[Joker]: That's after all the movies.

[Owls]: Yeah. So, I'm in the middle of New Mutants, but that honestly, it's kind of like its own movie by itself because I don't think any of the other.

[Joker]: Wait, it's a movie?

[Owls]: Yeah

[Joker]: I thought it was like a TV show when I first looked at it.

[Owls]: No, it does kind of like the way that they did the poster. It does kind of look like a TV show versus a movie. In 2020, I can't believe it came out in 2020 and I don't even remember it.

[Joker]: Wow, it's been two years. Holy hell.

[Owls]: That's why. Okay, so I'm just looking it up in general and it just was The New Mutants a flop. It's getting a second shot at life on streaming. So, it didn't do well, probably because it was in the middle of a pandemic.

[Joker]: So yeah, now we've got that also with the podcast stuff. I'm going to redo the art as well, to be less centered on myself and Owl’s logos, but more on the Group Therapy aspect of the podcast where if we have an interviewee, it will show logo of them, if they have one. And whatever topic we typically or portion of the topic we talk about will be included in the imagery as well. So if you look at our current logo, it says Mad House presents Group Therapy with the Super 55 Shore Microphone and mine and Owl's logos, that will go away for the coming episodes that are posted on Spotify, iTunes or Apple podcast and all that. So that imagery, as far as the podcast imagery will change from week to week depending on what our topic is or who we're interviewing.

[Owls]: What are you talking about?

[Joker]: So instead of it just staying stationary like it has for these nine episodes where it's Mad House presents Group Therapy with the Super 55 Microphone and then our logos on it, everything underneath the text will go away and it will change to who we're interviewing. If they have a logo or if the X Men topic, it'll be like the title of the movie or some shit.

[Owls]: All right.

[Joker]: So, it'll change from the logo. Well, not the logo, but the imagery for the podcast will change week to week. Got you. So that's another change there. Let's see, what else did I type to you? Fuck. I got to look at shit now.

[Owls]: Where did you type it to me? We've got messages on Facebook and Discord. It's hard to remember where they came from.

[Joker]: You're right. It is. And then Griffith sent me as well. The poster board for the timeline.

[Owls]: I saw that.

[Joker]: Oh, hold on. I got to look at this now. Let's look at this deep. See, I don't see how. Now, that doesn't seem right to me as far as deviations, because Days of Futures Past was because they fucked up the timeline in first class.

[Owls]: For real? Yeah. Fantastic Four. You include those in there?

[Joker]: No, this is a premade. This is made by Raymond Lowe.

[Owls]: But I would not include the top four that's on here. The Daredevil, Electra, Fantastic Four. I don't include those in the X Men universe. Are they in the same universe?

[Joker]: Technically, yes.

[Owls]: But they never intermingle. Is that correct?

[Joker]: To my knowledge, yes.

[Owls]: When I look up X Men movies in order, those are not in there at all.

[Joker]: This is what's funny is, I understand why they did this, because Daredevil, Electra and the Fantastic Four are the bridge between the X Men side of Marvel and the Avengers side of Marvel. They're the bridge outside of Deadpool. Deadpool, of course. Honestly, should have been integrated into this.

[Owls]: Oh, Deadpool's. And so I sent you the release order of all the X Men movies, and it doesn't include those. But it does include Deadpool.

[Joker]: Yeah, because Deadpool absolutely is a part of that in both movies. There's references back to the X Men series.

[Owls]: Yes, definitely.

[Joker]: So this is the one you sent is the one you want to go off of as far as the release?

[Owls]: I mean, that's what I just watched recently.

[Joker]: Yes. Okay. And then Deadpool 3 is coming out.

[Owls]: Yes, they did announce that. When is that Deadpool 3?

[Joker]: I think 2024, if I remember correctly, because it seems like New Mutants just came out.

[Owls]: Shit. They're going to have Xavier from the younger version, Xavier in it.

[Joker]: Oh, really?

[Owls]: It has Ryan Reynolds, Josh Berlin, and James McAvoy. James McAvoy is Xavier.

[Joker]: Yeah, the young Xavier. You got to think Patrick Stewart is fucking 80 something years old right now.

[Owls]: Josh Brolin, who is he going to play? Cyclops. Is that who he was?

[Joker]: Yeah, in Deadpool 2.

[Owls]: Thanos?

[Joker]: Yeah, he was the embodiment of Thanos, but no, he was in Deadpool 2 as Cyclops or not Cyclops. Cable. Yeah, that's what I meant to say. Sorry. I fucked up for everybody listening.

[Owls]: Oh, my goodness.

[Joker]: I fucked up. Okay. My bad. My bad.

[Owls]: Yeah, your bad.

[Joker]: Cable.

[Owls]: Yes, you're fine. I would have no idea unless I was looking at it right now.

[Joker]: Honestly. Yeah. Nerd card revoked.

[Owls]: Honestly, though, Cable, give it to me, Joker.

[Joker]: See, here's the problem though is, Cable really, he had his own comic book series, but he was separated from the X Men universe after his initial encounter with them and Deadpool. Because Deadpool is the true bridge between all of Marvel. Literally all of Marvel.

[Owls]: Yeah, because he's within all of it.

[Joker]: He's got a man crush on Wolverine and a Bromance with Spider Man, for God's sake.

[Owls]: I don't remember the Spiderman thing.

[Joker]: There's a whole comic collection of Spider comic books.

[Owls]: Oh, Spider comic books.

[Joker]: Yeah, Spider comic books.

[Owls]: Okay. That's where I'm not going to have any expertise in the comic aspect of this. I've got zero knowledge of that.

[Joker]: We cannot integrate that storyline or those storylines into this because

[Owls]: then it just opens that timeline

[Joker]: It just open that timeline that Griff sent will be four times as large.

[Owls]: Yeah. I mean, like, we would have to if we start opening it up to, say, Fantastic Four, then we've just got to bridge over to Marvel, which is a whole nother shit show,

[Joker]: Because in the comic book sections, there are just four full timelines of nothing but X Men characters to include Cable, Cyclops, Wolverine, Xavier and Gambit.

[Owls]: I mean, how many different types of Spiderman are there? Just that one character has

[Joker]: like the Spiderverse in general,

[Owls]: extremely variations. Yeah. That's a whole nother thing. It's just so much.

[Joker]: See, that's why Daredevil, Electra and then both Fantastic Fours are included because Xmen was produced by Fox at one point.

[Owls]: Yeah, but like, do they actually integrate at any point? Are the characters in both of them?

[Joker]: Silver Surfer and the Thing do a mash up in the comic realm with.

[Owls]: In the comic realm. But as far as, like, the movies,

[Joker]: Nowhere in the movies.

[Owls]: In my perspective, they're different because different movie realms. Yes. In comics, unless they actually make a movie where it does bridge that gap, I'm thinking just movie realm. What are connected.

[Joker]: Yeah. So right now with the cinematic movies, the only connections really is Deadpool to X Men and Marvel and Daredevil to Spiderman because of a cameo in the latest Spiderman, which everybody seen it's already in trailer. So, there's no spoilers there.

[Owls]: What do you mean? Spiderman with

[Joker]: Daredevil?

[Owls]: Yeah.

[Joker]: You didn't see that trailer.

[Owls]: I've seen the movie.

[Joker]: Okay. All right, sorry. Spoiler alert.

[Owls]: Spoiler alert.

[Joker]: After Peter Parker's outed, right? He's sitting down with Aunt May and

[Owls]: Okay, I got it.

[Joker]: The lawyer.

[Owls]: Yeah, I got it now. But that's a

[Joker]: Daredevil Marvel Connection.

[Owls]: Daredevil Marvel connection.

[Joker]: Yeah no, that's not Marvel in general. But Daredevil is technically still Marvel.

[Owls]: Yeah,

[Joker]: but again, that's the connection there. Yes, it is. The Netflix Daredevil versus the cinematic Daredevil.

[Owls]: See, if we start branching off into all that, then we're going to have to branch off into like different versions of the same thing versus in different Studios.

[Joker]: But see, here's the thing, though. At least with the Marvel universe, all of the Marvel universe, they're fairly consistent.

[Owls]: Oh, yeah, they try to be. I mean, there's definitely anything has loopholes because it's like almost impossible to be perfect

[Joker]: because DC is all kinds of Tom fuckery right now

[Owls]: Yeah.

[Joker]: with their consistency.

[Owls]: They've got like three different Batmans in the last ten years. Yeah, they can't keep one Batman. It's just crazy. I get like, Spiderman,

[Joker]: There are four different Flashes.

[Owls]: One's a TV show. It's like all over the place.

[Joker]: Yeah, there are quite literally four different Flashes. [thinking hard and counting Flashes to himself]

[Owls]: You thought real hard you looked like possessed for a second.

[Joker]: Five

[Owls]: You gained access to your brain. You actually looked inside of your head for the answer.

[Joker]: But there's like five or six different Wonder Woman.

[Owls]:

[Joker]: Oh, no, there's more than just three Supermans. There's actually five different Supermans because one person played two different characters in the same universe.

[Owls]: Are you talking about Ryan Reynolds?

[Joker]: No,

[Owls]: No.

[Joker]: Superman, one of the Supermans. I think it was the Man of Steel Superman also plays, Adam in Legends of Tomorrow. So he is the only person.

[Owls]: I don't know anything about DC. I'm going to be honest. Like, Dc movies like, no offense to people that like DC movies. There are a few of them that I actually enjoy because they do not have the comical relief that Marvel movies have.

[Joker]: Absolutely dark. But that makes it a little more real

[Owls]: Yeah

[Joker]: Because there's less science fiction to it.

[Owls]: Yeah.

[Joker]: And that's why people connect to it.

[Owls]: So, I mean, I enjoy, don't get me wrong, I enjoyed one of my favorite ones was the Dark Knight Bryce’s Joker,

[Joker]: the Christian Bale version.

[Owls]: And I didn't even really care about Christian Bale. I really just liked Heath Ledger's Joker.

[Joker]: Well, I mean, he was a martyr to the character. Honestly. It's like people hate on Jared Leto's Joker because

[Owls]: I loved his too. Don't get me wrong,

[Joker]: What's funny is Jared Leto's Joker and Jack Nicholson's Joker are actually two of the more accurate Jokers.

[Owls]: Yeah, because Jared Leto is. I mean, we're kind of getting off topic, but Jared Leto is. What do we call it, a method actor? Is that what it is.

[Joker]: He dove into it?

[Owls]: Yeah, no, all of them, but a lot of them dove into it. I remember reading something about it after Heath Ledger passed that he was warned about this particular character because getting so into this.

[Joker]: Yeah, Hollywood has a curse.

[Owls]: It's not just a curse, but especially method actors when they get so into that mindset. If they believe that they're that character, they're such a method actor. It puts you in a really dark place.

[Joker]: I mean, look at Watkin Phoenix.

[Owls]: Oh, man.

[Joker]: He is the biggest method actor of all of DC like lineup. And his version of The Joker was almost the death of him because he got so anorexic to fill that character's role. It's ridiculous. Like it is truly ridiculous.

[Owls]: No, I believe that. I think they all in their own way. But Jared Leto literally was sending his castmates dead rats. That's how much he got into it. He was not welcomed back for another movie because of how into it he got.

[Joker]: And we will remind me Griff or put it in the reply to the cast with a headline topic request. And we will talk about bad casting in movies because I absolutely agree with you on that one. And I'll explain we'll go through the purpose of that one particular.

[Owls]: Yeah. Other than small tidbits DC, it's not in my wheelhouse. I never got into them. I've watched a few of them, but they've never been really intriguing to me.

[Joker]: See, you almost won the Nerd card, but you just lost it.

[Owls]: Why? Because the DC thing.

[Joker]: Yeah.

[Owls]: They just don't. I don't want to watch a movie and be depressed. Especially a superhero one. That's just my personal preference. I tell you, I enjoyed some of them. Aquaman is the only one I know. You're going to give me shit. I'm just waiting for you to be go to whatever the fuck his name is now. I can't remember his name.

[Joker]: Jason Momoa.

[Owls]: It's not because of that. That had a more Marvel feel to it as far as how they portrayed the character and how they stop and get that smile. Oh my God. It's not just because of what he looks like.

[Joker]: By the way, for those that can't see her face, she is blushing so hard

[Owls]: Stop

[Joker]: that her cheeks are turning red

[Owls]: Stop

[Joker]: on camera.

[Owls]: I don’t even look like that.

[Joker]: I haven't looked at you once until just now.

[Owls]: I can't see it. No, it's like you're looking away, but I can see the look on your face. It's not because of that. I'm just saying.

[Joker]: Hey, the man is fucking gorgeous. I'm not going to lie.

[Owls]: I’m not saying he’s not. He is an attractive man. I can find men attractive. It's not a problem. But I liked the feel of the movie more because it felt more like lighthearted but still serious. And the scenes were just awesome. I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it other than that.

[Joker]: Sure.

[Owls]: Henry Cavill and Jason Momoa

[Joker]: all right. You know what? I don't give a shit. Hold on. I don't give a shit what anybody says. Henry Cavill is the best choice they could have ever made for fucking Superman. He is the true nerd, man's, man.

[Owls]: I don't know.

[Joker]: He does fucking D&D. He does Warcraft.

[Owls]: Is he?

[Joker]: Yes. He's into all of that. He does all of that. He's not just an actor. This motherfucker is a nerd.

[Owls]: He's a nerd. It says, Is Henry Cavill in a relationship? Like, people want to know this shit. No, I like him because he's a good Witcher, too.

[Joker]: Oh, my God. There was an interview that he did when The Witcher for season one premiered, and they were saying that he actually went full on fucking, like, geek out nerd them when he was offered that position.

[Owls]: Oh, I'm sure if he's into everything like that, that's like, probably dream,

[Joker]: Fuck, I want Henry Cavill. Jesus.

[Owls]: If I were to choose between Jason Momoa and Henry Cavill, I would definitely Henry. But I mean, I wouldn't say, hey, Jason Momoa, get the hell out of here.

[Joker]: If you had to tell one of them to get the fuck out.

[Owls]: No, I can find them attractive. I'm not doing any of that.

[Joker]: So, yeah, back to the Marvel side of it with X Men. Great choices on a lot of characters. I was actually intrigued and surprised at how they portrayed the younger versions of Xavier and Magneto. Fantastic job, by the way. Yeah, same thing with a young mystique. I was questioning it at first.

[Owls]: She was great. She did so good.

[Joker]: Jennifer Lawrence did a fantastic job with that.

[Owls]: I love her,

[Joker]: especially coming from Hunger Games.

[Owls]: Yeah, she's really good. I was like, what do I know her from Hunger Games? That would be another one I would be willing to talk about. I've read the books and watched the movies.

[Joker]: Yeah. So going forward, it's going to be a very different vibe. We're still going to be doing or at least attempting to do every week. But you may not see me one week or you won't see Owls one week because I was thinking about it, too. I was like, Fuck, I didn't even realize it was Wednesday because I forgot that I didn't even stream yesterday. I just came in, lurked a little bit, and then chilled the fuck out. Yeah, I get that.

[Owls]: Everyone deserves a break. Yeah, for sure. And you've got some big life things happening.

[Joker]: That was another concept that I was putting into play with. This is because baby girl is quickly approaching, like she is knocking at the door, trying to escape. Like she's ready to get the fuck out of the insane asylum that she's being held in right now.

[Owls]: aka Baby Momma.

[Joker]: Aka Baby Momma.

[Owls]: But we love her and she's not insane. We're just naming it that. Very saddened by no Joker stream. Yeah, but she's getting close. So that is the thing that is happening,

[Joker]: especially mid-April. Most likely you won't see me on here for probably two solid streams. So, Owls, I'm hoping you will be able to take care of that.

[Owls]: Yeah. Coming up quick though,

[Joker]: All you got to do is record it. I can log in, get what I need and put it to a podcast. You just need to record. That's all I need from you.

[Owls]: All right, ten minutes, stream. Let's do it.

[Joker]: And by the way, I will send you like, if you want this, I'll send you this so you can see it or use it on your side.

[Owls]: Yeah, I can have it. So I use a different platform. I use the basic Twitch Studio when I stream. So if I

[Joker]: OBS,

[Owls]: if I do OBS, then I could save everything to that and then I don't have to worry about switching back and forth like I do.

[Joker]: I didn't even think about doing Twitch Studio.

[Owls]: Twitch Studio is so easy. I don't know about the

[Joker]: you won't have all the elaborate stuff like I have, but if you want something simple like the thing below you, the counter stuff like that is just plugins in OBS. They have free plugins.

[Owls]: No, I would do OBS for that actually.

[Joker]: I think I can export the file set file and the only thing you would have to do is

[Owls]: download it to it,

[Joker]: download it and change your input settings for your camera and your audio inputs.

[Owls]: Yeah, we could do that one day.

[Joker]: Okay. Because really, it's only two scenes. Anyway, for the podcast it's the intro glitch, which I probably will just make a static one for you because that's a full web file and that's probably what helps make my shit on drop frames in the beginning because I've noticed since I personally on my personal channel have switched to just the cameras, there's not as much network issue.

[Owls]: I did also just think of something that you could do on Saturdays before you do the podcast, not the podcast, stream with me. You could do like a quick short just chatting stream

[Joker]: On here so we can get the number up so we can get that affiliate status now.

[Owls]: So, like just a quick one raid and then start your regular one up

[Joker]: After I raid. Yeah. Also, guys, we do need your help out in Twitch land and listeners. We are currently only sitting at, I believe, 28 followers. We are currently only sitting at 28 followers. So we definitely need your help. Get the word out. I want us to try to get to 50 followers at least before the end of April. Once we reach affiliate on here on the Red Circle platform where our host is, I will also start exclusive memberships there, which will be a little higher than the Twitch tiers for one reason and one reason only, because the benefits will be for both. If you are a Red Circle subscriber and you retain that subscription on Red Circle every month you will be gifted automatically a subscription to whatever tier you do on Red Circle to the tier equivalent on Twitch, so you'll still have access to all the emotes for that subscriber tier. But it'll be a little more on Red Circle for the simple fact that there'll be added bonuses to the audio side as well. Like a movie night. Like a lot of posts will go out via the exclusive tiers. I'll try to see if I can get an email list as well and do it that way so that when we do like for exclusive members through Red Circle or here on Twitch as subscribers, we'll have a movie night maybe once a month or twice a month. Who knows? And we'll just sit in discord and watch a movie. And this will be one of the fun ones for us because we'll just sit there and pick it apart. Be the bad viewers or bad movie goers. Yeah. And we'll sit there and pause it every so often and be like that's fucking stupid or what the hell are they doing talking during the whole movie? And we'll do that probably right after dinnertime Eastern just so we can eat dinner and then have a little extra time to bullshit through the movie. Because most movies nowadays are 2 hours long.

[Owls]: Oh yeah, definitely. When I would do it on Sundays, I'd be like, man, I got to find an hour and a half so that I have some time to like chill for two-hour movies, man. That's like a shorter movie.

[Joker]: Yeah. Nowadays

[Owls]: Two and a half is standard at this point.

[Joker]: I was going to say no Way Home was almost 3 hours. It was like 2 hours.

[Owls]: That was such a good movie that you don't even notice it.

[Joker]: Oh yeah. No, I was like because I was hoping I was able to finish it before we did podcast last week.

[Owls]: Oh, okay. You just watched it right before.

[Joker]: Yeah, literally I finished it and then came and hit start on this.

[Owls]: Like walking away from the TV. Is it over yet? Is it over?

[Joker]: Yeah. No, there was part of the lull towards the end, the final fight scene that I actually missed a few seconds of it here and there because I was trying to get the camera and everything set up.

[Owls]: For shame.

[Joker]: I know, but I bought it. I bought it on Amazon, so I'll be able to rewatch it anytime I want to.

[Owls]: Yeah, actually, after X Men is over, I'm going to do the impossible and watch all of Marvel again.

[Joker]: All of Marvel?

[Owls]: I'm going to start. Actually, I'm going to start. Okay, maybe Silver Surfer. I don't know, like all those. But at least from Spiderman on I'm going to start it. I can't remember his name. Toby Maguire Spiderman because now technically he's a part of the Marvel universe because they brought him in.

[Joker]: Yeah. Well, Spiderman was Marvel anyway. It's always been Marvel, but

[Owls]: But not Marvel Universe when they created the not Marvel Cinematic Universe.

[Joker]: Not Marvel Cinematic Universe.

[Owls]: Yeah, that's what I mean.

[Joker]: Yeah, that's what I mean. But Toby Maguire is the OG, and I'm glad that they mention how much older than the others he is.

[Owls]: Like, they poked on it that he was a lot older, but also, they were all different things. Like when they were discussing their different web comes out of you, like, everywhere.

[Joker]: So fantastic.

[Owls]: Yeah, that was just cinematic beauty. It was like nostalgic and exciting all at the same time. Yeah. And I really like Doctor Strange.

[Joker]: Oh, yeah.

[Owls]: He actually has quickly become one of my favorites in the entire universe.

[Joker]: Well, I think he's actually the first cinematic Doctor Strange they've ever had. There's been animated versions.

[Owls]: No, he for sure is. I don't think I've ever seen

[Joker]: a live action one,

[Owls]: because that was my first. Like I've said, I have no information on comic books. That's just never been what I've looked at. Never been interested. Sorry, just not my thing, not my jam.

[Joker]: But what I'm saying is he will always and forever be Doctor Strange. Like, Robert Downey Jr. Is Iron Man

[Owls]: Iron Man forever. Nobody else is going to be able to touch it because that is so iconic.

[Joker]: And then Elizabeth only going to be the Scarlet Witch.

[Owls]: Yeah, I haven't seen all the shows either. I've got to do that.

[Joker]: WandaVision is phenomenal.

[Owls]: I need to watch it. I know, I'm fully aware. I'm going to.

[Joker]: They did a lot of integration in that one, too. In that TV show.

[Owls]: I will be watching it. I'm starting from scratch and I'm going to go up and I'm going to get like a list of, like, the shows and the movies that I need to kind of watch.

[Joker]: But I gotta say I am disappointed, though, in the fact of the concept of what's his name played Captain America.

[Owls]: I know what you're talking.

[Joker]: But that's not his first Marvel appearance as Captain America. He was also the Human Torch in the first Fantastic Four.

[Owls]: That's true. I didn't even think about that. Imagine if they did a crossover. What would happen?

[Joker]: Oof. They probably use the second one. The black guy, he was still a good one. He still embodied the Human Torch.

[Owls]: Oh, you're talking about another Fantastic Four.

[Joker]: Yeah, the second one. They changed the entire cast.

[Owls]: Yeah, I didn't see that.

[Joker]: A whole different cast.

[Owls]: I have to catch up on everything.

[Joker]: It was still a good movie, considering, but it just didn't feel right. Hugh Jackman, another one. Fantastic.

[Owls]: He's going to forever be Wolverine. He's even Wolverine in the prequels. They didn't even bother trying to get a younger version of him. They're like, you're just going to do it.

[Joker]: Well, you got to think, though.

[Owls]: He’s been alive forever.

[Joker]: He's older than any of them as far as character wise, because he was born in the 18 hundreds

[Owls]: And he just continued. But it's just funny that they didn't even bother trying to get like, a younger because he is aging. He's just aging extremely slow.

[Joker]: Yeah. Well, I mean, that's where they came in. Because if you look at Logan, the timeline, Logan is almost 70, 80 years after the events.

[Owls]: Like the first movies.

[Joker]: No. After what was it? Days of future past.

[Owls]: Which is even further in the future.

[Joker]: Yeah. So it's well, after that. And that's considered old man Logan. Old Man Logan in the original storyline, i.e., Comics from the X Men, like the yellow and blue suit X Men to Old man Logan was almost 100 plus years.

[Owls]: Yeah. Andrew read that comic book.

[Joker]: Yeah. And that's where the storyline or concepts were based off for Logan was old man Logan in the comics. That's where they got the look and everything else. Thank you for the follow. We'll get more into that. And I'll try to bring in some comic book lore in there to help make sense of some of this, because a lot of the comic book lure does bleed into the cinematic universe.

[Owls]: I mean, it has to at a certain point, that's where it's based off of movies did not come before comics. It was comics, then movies. So, there's going to be integration of comics regardless.

[Joker]: Oh, yeah. It's like the whole scene in Captain America where he meets Rhodey for the first time during the run around the pool. I say the pool. But the thing in DC around the Lincoln or the Needle, that big gas pool in DC, body of water, that was in the comic books. They pulled that from the comic books.

[Owls]: I mean, that's the same with The Amazing Spiderman, with Andrew Garfield. Again, spoiler alert. With what's her name, Gwen Stacy, where she's dangling and he's there under when she dies. Like, he can't catch her.

[Joker]: He didn't catch her.

[Owls]: Yeah. There's a picture. There's a like, side by side somewhere on the Internet of, like, the comic book picture and the movie scene. And it's like the same thing.

[Joker]: Yeah. Oh, man.

[Owls]: That's such a heartbreaking moment.

[Joker]: That honestly.

[Owls]: And then the scene again spoiler. And in the new one when he catches

[Joker]: No Way Home when he catches Mary, MJ

[Owls]: MJ, Mary Jane.

[Joker]: It’s not Mary Jane, it's Michelle Jean. Actually, it's something completely different.

[Owls]: I can't. It's too much,

[Joker]: Which is actually, if I remember correctly, is a Spiderverse true MJ.

[Owls]: I'm sure it is. I just don't know. But when he catches her, I bust up crying

[Joker]: because I think in the comics, that's what causes him to, after the death of the Mary Jane. Gwen Stacy is when the Spiderverse actually opens, and that's when Gwen Stacy becomes Spider Gwen.

[Owls]: So I don't know about all that.

[Joker]: I can't remember. Don't quote me. But I believe there is. Don't do that because

[Owls]: I did it. Now. It's quoted. I already posted on Twitter.

[Joker]: You don't have a Twitter.

[Owls]: Exactly. So, you're safe.

[Joker]: For now.

[Owls]: Yeah.

[Joker]: Yeah. So that's some stuff that we'll kind of get into as far as the X Men stuff. I'll try to reach out to my brother-in-law, who definitely collects a lot of that as well. A lot of DC old school Marvel. He collects comic books. Like, there's a box. Is it in here yet? Oh, yeah, it's back over here on this side, actually. I think you can see it if I move it's a Speakerbox down here that is full of fucking comics. Like, I've got thousands of dollars in minted comics that are graded in that box.

[Owls]: Dang, I didn't know it was there. Was it there when I visited?

[Joker]: Yeah, it probably was. Actually. If it wasn't there, it was out in the living room.

[Owls]:  I could have ran with it and then never.

[Joker]: Yeah, that's just one of the boxes too. Well, I mean, yeah, you've got a couple of $1,000 in comics down there, but you've also got tens of thousands of dollars in guns right next to it.

[Owls]: And then you also had a VR headset that you threw away.

[Joker]: Oh, I didn't do that.

[Owls]: I'm just kidding.

[Joker]: I did not do that. That was Baby Momma $500 VR Quest 2 almost thrown away.

[Owls]: Yes. The next time you want to throw something like that away, Baby Momma, just let me know.

[Joker]: Hey, it would have been her money. It wasn't my money. So that's really what we've got going on is a hard point. Also, guys, again, if you're watching on the Madhouse channel, Discord channel, I should say the Madhouse Discord channel. Down below all the pretty little channel pieces within that is the Group Therapy podcast. And there's a text channel in there called Reply to the Cast if you want to suggest topics. So when we get done with the X Men series, we can already have an idea of where we want to go. Plus, we'll be able to build up a topic list so that it will be easier for us to get into each week. Also, if you have someone that you want us to interview, put that in there as well. Instead of saying topic, just put interview and then the streamer's name, whether they're on Twitch or YouTube. And if you can provide a link to their channels so that we can check them out, get an idea of what we want to talk about with them. If we believe they're a good fit for the channel as well. So, we can bring them on and just talk to them, see what they're doing, what they're up to, what they're about, and hopefully grow both communities like we have been with the Madhouse anyway.

[Owls]: That'd be fun. We just wanted to get to know more people, too.

[Joker]: Oh, absolutely. I hope IAmBPala is willing to join us either next week or one week. Now see, my top end streamer that I really would love us to be able to interview is actually a South Carolina local.

[Owls]: I don't live in South Carolina. That's weird.

[Joker]: But it's Alex_Zedra. Alex_Zedra is, she is a Twitch streamer, who is actually live right now, and she's a part of Black Rifle Coffee Company's group of hooligans. But she is also the face of a character in Call of Duty, Mara.

[Owls] I don't play enough Call of Duty.

[Joker]: Yeah, no, it's fine. Her and Heather Lynn are both like. Well, they're tactical models, and they're part of the Black Rifle Coffee Company. Heather Lynn actually just got a position with Black Rifles Production Group being a producer and director of shorts for them. So that's awesome.

[Owls]: Yeah, that's awesome. That's really cool.

[Joker]: Yeah. So that's my goat between her, Alexandra, and Matt Best, who is, of course, the creator of Black Rifle Coffee Company.

[Owls]: Yeah. You know more than I do. I have no idea. I definitely have a couple of people that would be really interesting to interview.

[Joker]: And I'm hearing BBJess is getting a lot of rave lately. I actually watched one of her. Yeah, I watched one of her streams where she was doing band requests, like band removals from her channel. That was quite hilarious. Especially her little raid thing where it's the TikTok meme little booty. But she turned it into a song and dances to it like she climbs up in her fucking chair and shakes her butt. I mean, it's hilarious because she's in a sweatshirt and sweatpants.

[Owls]: Oh, yeah, she goes hard

[Joker]: And she is hilarious. And I'm still trying to figure out if those eyes are real or if she's got a contact in because it looks.

[Owls]: Those are her eyes. I'm telling you, those are her eyes for sure. I've looked at a couple of her streams and some information. She actually majored in production, some technical production, which is why she's got this super elaborate stream in her dining room area. Yeah, she's got, like seven or eight different cameras in every different direction, different effects.

[Joker]: That is nothing compared to one guy Baddie B-A-D-D-I-E. This motherfucker has got, like, twelve different fucking cameras sprawled out across the entire room.

[Owls]: Oh, no, this is, like, all over the place. It's crazy.

[Joker]: Go look at Baddie. Baddie is fucking hilarious. If I remember correctly, he is a combat vet, but he's a gun lover. He is fucking insane. Like, he's playing Escape from Tarkov right now. And oh, my God, he's hilarious when he goes. It’s crazy.

[Owls]: It's just all fun. It's like, fun to watch. There's another guy called Chris Six or 06 Chris. He just vibes his entire stream. He's a lot of fun, too.

[Joker]: Nice. Very nice.

[Owls]: There's a multitude of choices. Anybody we get on is just going to bring something different to the podcast.

[Joker]: Absolutely.

[Owls]: So, we'll just feed off of whatever that person wants to talk about or whatever we discuss with them.

[Joker]: Whatever feels we got going on, the future waits for. [Sound Alert] Sorry about that.

[Owls]:  I thought it was mine.

[Joker]: No, it was mine. Yes. I'm going through my list that I follow currently.

[Owls]: Kind of like who you would want to interview. Is that what you're doing? Oh, my God. You know what the ultimate dream for me would be? PaymoneyWubby.

[Joker]: PaymoneyWubby?

[Owls]: Oh, my God. If you don't know who this is,

[Joker]: Put a link in the chat because I need to see this individual. I've never heard them.

[Owls]: Fucking hilarious. He's got 17 and a half thousand, like 17.5K viewers

[Joker]: Ah, active?

[Owls]: Yeah. Like his chat is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

[Joker]: Oh, wow. Sounds right. Put in the chat really quick. I want to see.

[Owls]: In Twitch?

[Joker]: Yeah, Twitch is fine. I want to see who this is. This guy live, right? It's depression and he's a ginger.

[Owls]: I'm not going to say that is he isn't.

[Joker]: Hell, yeah,

[Owls]: He's hilarious.

[Joker]: Oh, yeah. He is definitely a top end streamer.

[Owls]: Oh, yeah. And we watch his videos on YouTube and everything, so he's hilarious.

[Joker]: Okay.

[Owls]: if you have time, look him up. Just look up his.

[Joker]: Oh, I've got it pulled up right now. I'll give him a follow.

[Owls]: Oh, yeah. It's worth it for sure. It's just ridiculous.

[Joker]: The G Fuel bus with fucking Bernie in there. Oh, my God.

[Owls]: It's so ridiculous. Everything that he does, that would be the ultimate dream. I think that would be the most fun. But like, he's his top tier there.

[Joker]: I am jealous of his fucking hair. Oh, my God. That's how red my hair used to be when I had hair.

[Owls]: I don't believe you ever had hair.

[Joker]:  I used to have hair.

[Owls]: You came out exactly like this with a mustache. Bald. And that's how you've been the rest of the entire.

[Joker]: That's right. You weren't here yet or a part of the community yet when I had my Covid beard.

[Owls]: Covid beard?

[Joker]: Yeah, when I was working from home. Summer of 2020.

[Owls]: Yeah. I didn't start streaming until my stream anniversary is going to be May 1. I'm pretty sure that was my first dream ever.

[Joker]: Oh, wow.

[Owls]: And I met Atari, like a month after that. Yeah.

[Joker]: So, anything roughly around summer of 2020 is, I had a Covid beard. Like, it was a mixture between just regular scruff, clean face, and a full beard. I mean, not full like your little pay money will be, but it was obviously there.

[Owls]: I had Covid legs. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I had some maternity leave when Covid started.

[Joker]: Now, if you want to talk about top tier streamers, I want to interview. The one I really want to interview is Pestily.

[Owls]: Yeah. I don't know who that is.

[Joker]: So, he's a Tarkov streamer.

[Owls]: Well, that makes sense.

[Joker]: But he's also Australian and he was a part of the Australian Army.

[Owls]: That's cool. That's interesting.

[Joker]: Yeah. So he's a big tactical guy, but he has built up from nothing and he got partnered early on with Tarkov,

[Owls]: And that was the game itself.

[Joker]: Yeah, with the game and Battlestate Games and that's where he got his big money shot. Like, most people have it off of one type of game. Well, his was originally Tarkov and average streams for him are anywhere between 18 and 24,000 viewers.

[Owls]: Yeah?

[Joker]: Yeah, I think the highest I've ever seen him at was over 500,000 during a Tarkov tournament.

[Owls]: Dude, I freak out when I have, like, ten people. I'm like, there's two people in Europe.

[Joker]: Hell, I'm still surprised that my average viewers on my channel have finally jumped up over six. Like, I'm at seven right now from Twitch as an overall average, and that feels phenomenal. Like, I'm achieving something here.

[Owls]: Yeah, I think my average is, like, anywhere between three and six, which is fine by me. Three people is three people watching me play that's, three people taking the time out of their day and watching me do something

[Joker]: More lurking because I know that's where 90% of my viewership comes from is y'all. And trust me, I'm absolutely ecstatic in that fact. I don't care about the viewers because, I mean, I push them off on you all anyway, because you all are my community that have helped me grow, but also allowed me to do what I do with everybody, and especially new streamers. When I give them 20, 30, 40 subs gifted. It's because of everything you all have done for me.

[Owls]: I think the first one to gift stuff like that was you in my stream. You were the first? Probably,

[Joker]: Oh yeah. And it's Joker's break the streamer.

[Owls]: Oh, my goodness. Atari and I broke a streamer yesterday just by raiding and following.

[Joker]: Oh, nice.

[Owls]: And then Atari did some bits and a sub, and I was just like, she was just so thankful. She was so sweet and funny. I loved it.

[Joker]: Right?

[Owls]: It made me happy. It was her first affiliate stream, so I was like, that makes me happy that you're happy.

[Joker]: Now you see how I feel every time I do that.

[Owls]: No, I love it. I love it every time I stream somebody and they're like, super appreciative, and it makes them happy. That makes me happy. That's me. In a nutshell. I would rather, I like gift giving. I love it because I put a lot of thought into gifts that I give people. And so my favorite part, of course, I like to just give it to them. But my favorite part about gift giving is seeing the reaction on someone's face when they get it.

[Joker]: Yeah.

[Owls]: Because I spend all this time thinking of something. I spend probably way too much time thinking about gifts because I want someone to enjoy it and I want it to be useful. I don't want it to be just something that you go, well, the hell am I going to do with this? I can't tell you how long I spent thinking of a gift for you guys. I wanted to get you guys something from your registry, but I also wanted to get something kind of personal, so I spent a lot of time.

[Joker]: Aww

[Owls]: Aww, gross. But like, I love gift giving. So, it's like it's the same feeling when I raid somebody and they're like [gasp], if I have gosh, I have three or four viewers, which again, love it. Three or four people took the time out and that's what I sent over. And that person was excited about that. So that was exciting for me.

[Joker]: Oh, yeah. And that's another thing, too. Me personally, I want to be able to I guess my goal I've always talked about from the beginning, like overarching goal is going partner, but with a purpose. I don't want to just go partner to say I'm partner now. I want to be able to do the links in the panel section where I don't have to tag everybody individually, where I can just put a link and that goes to the Madhouse channel that has everybody a part of the Madhouse there so people can see. Plus one of my things was my overarching goal is when I reach partner, if it ever happens, is I'm going to build the top tier PC for one lucky follower. Not even just a sub, just a follower.

[Owls]: And it's going to be like a thousand accounts.

[Joker]: But it's going to be an AMD PC because I trust AMD more than I do Nvidia or Intel. But it's going to be a Ryzen 9, maybe a Threadripper, who knows? But a Threadripper is honestly overkill. My gaming PC has a Ryzen 9 in it right now. It is the second of it's the number two out of the two top tier AMD chips right now.

[Owls]: I just need to upgrade. Andrew and I just did our taxes and the number. I could not believe it. He sent me a picture of it, and I said, that's not real.

[Joker]: Baby Momma

[Owls]: We didn't do any of the child tax credit, so we opted out. I don't like getting those monthly payments. So we've got like all the child tax credit, plus how much we pay for daycare and all that stuff is like coming back to us.

[Joker]: Did you put in the daycare stuff? Holy shit. I didn't even think about that.

[Owls]: They don't give you a paper? Yeah, you got to file those things because that's an expense.

[Joker]: I didn’t think about that.

[Owls]: That's deductible. So from that and the credit that we didn't get and whatever we had from income. Oh, my God.

[Joker]: By the way,

[Owls]: He sent me a picture and I went, that can't be real.

[Joker]: By the way. Adults, if you stream at all, anything that you use to stream or you buy for streaming is deductible. Save that receipt. You can deduct it on your taxes, some things like monitors, keyboard, stuff like that. That's a onetime deductible the year you bought it. However, Internet, electricity,

[Owls]: You can even do part of your rent.

[Joker]: Yes, because if you stream from your home, it is all deductible. Every year you stream.

[Owls]: The reason why I brought that up is because we did the taxes, and the number was like, what? That can't be real. Somebody's going to get

[Joker]: More than four digits.

[Owls]: It was like somebody's taking me to jail after this. I don't know what's happening, but Cynara suckers, it's going to pay off the credit card, and then we're like, we're going to get new video cards. That was the next thing.

[Joker]: Well, that's how I got my RX 6900 XT in the middle of COVID when graphics cards were over two grand apiece.

[Owls]: Ridiculous.

[Joker]: My graphics card was $2,300 in the middle of COVID.

[Owls]: Oh man!

[Joker]: That was last year. Now they're running for about $1,500 to $1,600.

[Owls]: Yeah. Crazy. More than we spent, like when we rebuilt our computers.

[Joker]: Yeah.

[Owls]: It's crazy.

[Joker]: Oh, my gaming computer. Like, everything attached to my gaming computer right now. I've got three Predator monitors that were $450 a piece. I bought two of them this year. The AMD chipset, the graphics card, the Radiator cooler, because I've got the Corsair Radiator cooler with three fans. Got that. And keyboards. All that can be deducted this year.

[Owls]: If I get a video card, whatever I earn for the year, it's going to even it out, probably.

[Joker]: Yeah, probably. You may come up a little short, but still.

[Owls]: I mean, that's not a big deal to me. I really just want the video card because I want to play other games and I don't want my computer to lag.

[Joker]: By the way, any emotes that you Commission out and buy from an artist can be deducted if you get a receipt for it.

[Owls]: Any games that you purchase, and you play on stream?

[Joker]: Yes. Any games.

[Owls]: Any games. Pico Park.

[Joker]: If you bought it and you played it on stream, that is revenue. Earnings. Revenue. That is quite literally a business purchase.

[Owls]: So when I purchased something from Dead by Daylight, like any DLC? See that's deductible

[Joker]: Deductible, guys. All deductibles.

[Owls]: She got to find a way to work it in. Did you stream it? Did you use it for stream deductible?

[Joker]: Absolutely. Emotes, subscription are considered donations. That's deductible. Donations are deductibles every year.

[Owls]: Yeah. Like you said that to other people. Is that what you mean?

[Joker]: No, not sub to a streamer, when you donate subs to a stream.

[Owls]: Okay.

[Joker]: Yeah, that is a deductible. If you participate in charities, that is a deductible. There is so much you can do in the United States with tax returns, you can get a lot of money back.

[Owls]: Yeah, I'm telling you, you can.

[Joker]: Oh, my God. I'll put it to you this way the last two years, mostly because of baby Joker, thankfully, but a lot of

[Owls]: Wait until you get that third kid, man, you think three children.

[Joker]: Oh, by the way, if you adopt a child, you get a tax credit for up to five years.

[Owls]: What do you mean? Like just an additional tax credit?

[Joker]: Yes. For the adoption for five years of that child. As long as they are underage. For all five years. For all five years, you can pull a deductible on an adoption.

[Owls]: So, if you were to adopt, just a question. If you were to adopt a kid at like 15 for up

[Joker]: until they're 18.

[Owls]: So up to five years

[Joker]: Up to or…

[Owls]:  Interesting.

[Joker]: 18th birthday.

[Owls]: Can't you claim a dependent until they're 25?

[Joker]: As long as they're in school, like public, like a school system.

[Owls]: So, would that also?

[Joker]: No, that would not count.

[Owls]: Seems odd, though, because you're adopting

[Joker]: So, adoption is different because this is to the point of where they're not self-sustainable.

[Owls]:  Is an 18-year-old really self-sustainable?

[Joker]: By law, yes. Because they can move out.

[Owls]: They can move out and cause a lot of debt. Got you.

[Joker]: Yes. So adoptions are up to five years or their 18th birthday, at least in my state. Now, it may be different for other States, but

[Owls]: Every state is different

[Joker]: In my state or regardless, across the board, you can get adoption credit, but here South Carolina, it's up to five years. It should be a federal standard, I believe. If I read that right after Baby Momma showed it to me.

[Owls]: Did you confirm the daycare expense

[Joker]: For a certain amount of adoption cost? Okay. Oh, yes, she did. She did. That was prior to. Yes, I did.

[Owls]: That's very important. Because when I got that paper from the daycare when they laid out all I paid for the year, I just went. That's a lot of money that I paid for you to just look at my child. I know they do more than that. I know they do more than that. I appreciate everything my daycare does, but it just like it hurt a lot to see how much it paid for that.

[Joker]: Listen, listen, our kid runs that fucking daycare. Like, he's got little girls and the daycare attendants lining up to give him hugs when he is.

[Owls]: That's how my son is, my youngest. They love him. They fell in love with him. Like all of them. They share their food with him, when he comes in and they'll share whatever food they got.

[Joker]: Like he sits at the head of the kid table when they have snack time.

[Owls]: Yeah, I don't know about that, but definitely he's been posted on the Facebook a couple of times. Like, they think he's so cute and I think he's always on the Facebook.

[Joker]: Yeah. I mean, of course everybody on my personal channel has seen Baby Joker. He fucking rules wherever he goes.

[Owls]: He’s sweet.

[Joker]:  But, yeah, if he doesn't show up to daycare by 08:00 a.m., they're calling her, asking, where is he? What's wrong? Is he okay?

[Owls]: That's funny. That's awesome. That's a really good. That's a good daycare.

[Joker]: Yeah. Everybody loves him. Once he gets out of his shy phase with people, he steals everyone's heart.

[Owls]: He didn't seem all that shy with me

[Joker]: The first few hours, but you kind of forced that out of him.

[Owls]: I did?

[Joker]: Yeah, you did. You snatched him up.

[Owls]: I mean, I got kids, so it's kind of like

[Joker]: Second nature?

[Owls]: Yeah, that's who I am. That's what I do to my kids. And he's a kid. I don't know.

[Joker]: All right, well, I think we've pretty much deviated far from our original topics.

[Owls]: That's fine.

[Joker]: Oh, yeah, absolutely. This is a fun stream. Just bullshit stream anyway. And a bullshit podcast. Really? It's not even technically episode nine, but I figured I'd go ahead and give it that title of episode nine just to alleviate a new era. But what's going to happen just to kind of give a further insight? I was thinking about this while we were kind of bullshitting around is, like I said earlier, official episode ten will be the first episode in which we talk about X Men.

[Owls]: Which will be next week, right?

[Joker]: Yes, unless I can confirm if I can get like, BPala to either do next week or the week after. We'll kind of work around that because he's a busy guy when it comes to his content creation. Because last, a couple of days ago, he did a live recording for a YouTube video on Starter Gear. But anyway. But yeah, either it's next week or the week after. Either way, that will be the official episode ten. What I'll end up doing with all the interviews is saving those up, getting those proper edits done, so more intricate edits done. And I'll be posting those probably around episode 20.

[Owls]: Yeah.

[Joker]: So, we'll have plenty of time to get in X Men, maybe bad casting choices, some other gaming, or nerdy related topics before we get into the interviews. So, the interviews will definitely be posted later. Hello, Deafgrl. So that's the plan.

[Owls]: As of now, it would probably be best if we do the X Men next week and then me take off the following because Andrew will be off that week, so I'll be hanging out with him.

[Joker]: All right. I mean, that's fine because most likely the earliest will be the week after is

[Owls]: When he would be available.

[Joker]: Well, I mean, I'm saying, like the week after that, so three weeks from now is probably going to be when I have to take off anyway.

[Owls]: Got you. Alright.

[Joker]: The way things are going with baby girl.

[Owls]: She just really wants to meet you, Joker.

[Joker]: Oh, dude, anytime I lay on her belly, I get kicked in the face. Like if I get my hand on the belly, she's like, hey, Daddy. And just like swaps.

[Owls]: She's got to stay in there a little bit longer.

[Joker]: Just a little bit longer. So we don't have a NICU visit.

[Owls]: We want a proper amount of baking. We're okay with a little bit early. It's like cookies. You don't want them too raw.

[Joker]: Yeah,

[Owls]: But you don't mind a little bit of squish in the middle.

[Joker]: Oh, and the way the doctors were talking, she's going to be a squishy baby. She's a big girl.

[Owls]: With my second child. They sent me for gross scans because they were concerned that she was going to be big. She wasn't. So, yeah.

[Joker]: What was it? I think three weeks ago they were saying that if she goes full term, like natural full term, she had a potential of being a nine-pound baby

[Owls]: Wow, man.

[Joker]: Yeah.

[Owls]: My son was 8.4. So chunky, chunky kid.

[Joker]: Hell, I was 9lb 8oz.

[Owls]: Oof. Good Lord. Yeah. I think my mom said I was like 6lb or maybe 5lb. I don't know. She had like five or six pounders. I did not get that lucky. I mean, none of them feel great, regardless of the size. Let's just be honest here.

[Joker]: And also, another reason why I wanted to hold the podcast was if we needed to take an extended break where either of us couldn't, then we'd have that post as well.

[Owls]: Yeah, that makes sense.

[Joker]: So, there may be lag or they may start being more lag from when a podcast is recorded on Wednesdays versus when it's actually posted to the streaming platforms. So, anybody who's actually following us on any of the streaming platforms for the podcast as far as Red Circle, Apple Podcast, Spotify, Google Podcast or the Stitcher or Radio Public, if you are listening to us on any of those platforms, understand that there will not be as much regularity or consistency to the post every week now just because of the content changes that we will be making.

[Owls]: And life changes.

[Joker]: Yes. And life changes in general.

[Owls]: My mom said I was three weeks early, 5lb 8oz.

[Joker]: Oh, wow. And then baby Mama said first, or the turd was 8lb 2oz at 41 weeks. And baby Joker was 7lb 2oz at 38 weeks.

[Owls]: Yeah. Mine went up

[Joker]: And we're currently at

 [Owls]: from 11, 13 to 8.4

[Joker]: And we're currently at what, 33 weeks, Babe?

[Owls]: I think just shy of 33 weeks from her post.

[Joker]: Okay.

[Owls]:  She's like five or six days.

[Joker]: Yeah. So we're right before 33 weeks and she's trying to get.

[Owls]: They want you to be like 35, 36 weeks before.

[Joker]: And that's what I was saying about mid-month is where we're probably going to end up getting her because she is trying to bust out of that cell.

[Owls]: I want to be free.

[Joker]: All right. Well, Owls, do you want to do the last of this style of outro before we change everything up? Because this was the probably…

[Owls]: All the things…

[Joker]: This was the last episode of the intro style that we have currently where Owls has wonderfully, wonderfully scripted. But this will also be the last of this style of outro as well. We'll be kind of changing it up depending on the content. Of course, like I said, between the interview content and the content content, the nerd content, because it won't be solely on games anymore. We'll be stretching out into the realms of all nerddom, starting with the X Men side of Marvel, because we're separating X Men Universe from Marvel Universe.

[Owls]: X Men is a whole thing.

[Joker]: Yes. It has its own lore. Its own everything. So, starting next week with episode ten will be the first of the new style in which we will be conducting the podcast and we hope you join us for the live recording on Twitch.tv/theMadhousepodcast. Owls, take it away for the rest of it.

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