EP 034: Part 1 - National Security through Better Dialogue, with Safehouse.Global founder Jeff Carr

Jeffrey Carr has been an internationally-known cybersecurity adviser, author, and researcher since 2006. He invented REDACT, the world’s first global R&D database and search engine to assist companies in identifying which intellectual property is of value to foreign governments. He is the founder and organizer of Suits & Spooks (now Safe House Global), a “collision” event to discuss hard challenges in the national security space. | Jeffrey has contracted with the CIA’s Open Source Center’s Eurasia Desk as a Russia SME (2010), and has provided cyber intelligence briefings to the DIA, the FBI, and the Chief of Naval Operations Strategic Study Group. He has been a frequent lecturer at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology and the U.S. Army War College, and was a technical peer reviewer for Tallinn 2.0, the second edition of the Tallinn Manual on the International Law Applicable To Cyber Operations.

In intelligence we're always questioning our assumptions | - Critical thinking requires an understanding of the at least 60, distinct, "logical fallacies" humans tend to slip into | - Safehouse.Global was originally called "Suits and Spooks" | - Safehouse is a series of convocations designed to bring disparate voices to the table and improve shared understanding for better national security solutions | - It's only through expanding our view that we can recognize real threats to security...for example, the Chinese and American governments are both "experiments" in national structures - but ours is not working as effectively as theirs, in real time.

1:32 We need to be a better people, we as human beings, we as Americans need to be more open minded more according to our ideals, the the idea of diversity, the idea of honoring dissent, discussing with respect debating things effectively. And that's where it's important to bring in different voices and different perspectives. So we'll be talking about an organization, a series of events that were formerly called suits and spooks.

5:29 So, in order to help determine what's true, or what's, you know, objectively provable, you have to invite alternative views. That's the only way that that you'll be able to discover what's hiding behind your particular set of biases.

20:18 So the system that we have in place for determining what is secure and and what is not secure is it's really, it's really never secure. It's only what degree of insecure Are you willing to accept?

26:27 That's the price we paid. When we adopted the internet. And we adopted moving everything to the cloud, right? The benefit, the benefits are many. Downside, you're more vulnerable now than ever before.

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