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Family, this is one of those conversations you do not just watch; you sit with it.

In this episode of the Love You Moore Show, I got the chance to sit down with my sister Erica Campbell, and when I tell you she came with honesty, wisdom, laughter, healing, and real faith, I mean that. We talked about fear, marriage, parenting, purity, purpose, pain, acting, calling, relationships, and what it really looks like to trust God when life does not make sense.

There was a moment in this conversation where Erica said, “I refuse to let fear have access to me,” and that thing hit deep. Because many people love God, but still let fear sit in the driver’s seat. Not in this conversation. Not today.

We also talked about

How she protects her marriage

what it means to be committed to your spouse

raising children with truth and grace

walking in faith in a world full of panic

Why do some believers stay stuck in cycles

How pain can still be a part of purpose

and how God can open new doors in unexpected seasons

This is a real one, family. No fluff. No fake deep. Just truth, heart, and a word for right now.

Watch the full conversation, drop your biggest takeaway in the comments, and subscribe if you have not already. We are building something special over here.

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Love You Moore,

Willie Moore Jr.

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00:00 Erica Campbell says fear has no access

00:39 Willie welcomes Erica Campbell back

02:26 Health, wellness and wanting to feel good

04:08 First Lady life, surrender and Calvary Worship

07:39 Marriage, friendship and intimacy that stays strong

10:12 Raising daughters, standards and real conversations

16:54 Teaching young women value, purity and self-worth

20:21 Being fully saved in culture without shrinking

25:50 Erica Campbell on refusing fear

28:11 Faith, prayer and showing people Jesus

30:50 How Laugh Cry Heal was born from brokenness

35:34 What to do when pain comes from people close to you

36:25 Fasting, expectation and shifting your life

38:16 Erica on acting, purpose and new opportunities

43:19 One decision can change everything

45:02 Speaking life over your children and family vision

47:55 Knowing when to release control to God

48:23 Willie on kindness, growth and making things right

52:20 Final word, kindness and loving yourself more

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Family, this conversation right here is one of those ones.

In this episode of the Love You Moore Show, I sit down with my brother Touré Roberts for a conversation that goes way deeper than surface-level faith talk. We got into what it really means to know God, how to hear Him in uncertain times, why so many believers miss the context of scripture, what purity of heart really looks like, how to protect your marriage while carrying a major calling, and why church culture has sometimes made it harder for people to walk fully in their assignment.

Touré opened up about his upbringing, being shot at 16, entrepreneurship, identity, fatherhood, grace, calling, leadership, and the burden behind his book Knowing. And not gon’ lie, there were multiple moments in this conversation that hit me deep.

This is not just an interview.

This is wisdom.

This is conviction.

This is clarity.

This is one of those episodes that can shift how you move.

A few things we talked about in this episode:

what “eyes have not seen” really means

- Why are there some things you will know, not by what you see

- How to stay grounded when the world feels unstable

- Why pure hearts get attacked online

- How Touré Roberts views marriage, leadership, and making space for greatness

- Why some church culture has confused calling with conformity

- What it means to see people as harvest, not hellions

- How to discern what God is doing in your life in real time

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And if this conversation speaks to where you are right now, tell me in the comments:

What do you know God is saying to you in this season?

Love Yourself Moore.

Your nephew,

Willie Moore Jr.

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00:00 Eyes have not seen

00:08 Touré Roberts breaks down the real context of 1 Corinthians 2

00:37 There are things you will know, not by what you see

01:00 “That’s not my testimony, I don’t feel it”

01:14 Were you practicing for real, or pretending?

01:42 Willie’s message to the Love You Moore family

02:28 Outreach partner message

04:03 Willie Moore Jr welcomes Touré Roberts

05:33 Why leaving One Church was not hard for Touré

06:56 Touré Roberts on growing up in South Central LA

07:35 Getting shot at 16 and what shaped his worldview

09:23 How entrepreneurship started early

11:24 “The blessing of the Lord makes rich and adds no sorrow”

11:49 Why picking the right woman matters so much

13:13 Powerful men, strong women, and marriage

14:33 The two Josephs and making space for greatness

16:14 How Sarah Jakes Roberts evolved into her full power

17:03 Who taught Touré humility

18:24 Why he refuses to stay small around greatness

19:41 Why he promotes other people without jealousy

21:53 Fatherhood, priorities, and identity statements

23:53 Willie gets transparent about ambition and missing home alarms

25:27 Touré on protecting marriage in the middle of calling

27:45 Why church culture attacks people with real influence

29:03 The biblical reason some Christians miss it

30:05 How the algorithm rewards controversy

31:25 Willie on being attacked online with a pure heart

32:25 Touré on knowing your heart is pure

34:24 Why Miss Pat is one of the most godly people he has met

36:02 Willie on being called into hard spaces with Holy Spirit

37:17 Stop putting God in a box

38:49 See people as harvest, not hellions

40:17 Touré’s real encounter with God at 26

43:05 How his entrepreneur mind helped him plant a church

44:09 Why people forget the grace that found them

45:20 Willie opens up about fatherhood and searching for knowing

46:42 What the book Knowing is really about

47:33 Why uncertainty shuts people down

48:40 Everything that can be shaken will be shaken

49:18 Pressure reveals the real you

51:01 Touré returns to “eyes have not seen”

52:15 You have a knower

53:43 The burden behind writing Knowing

54:12 Stop running from trouble, see the opportunity in it

55:10 Willie on occupying land in the middle of famine

56:56 Weakness, faith, and moving anyway

58:46 Willie tells Touré how deeply the conversation hit him

59:08 “Desperate times require authenticity”

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Family, this conversation right here is for the person who has been carrying pressure in private.

Keon Davis pulled up and gave us the real.

We talked about losing money, losing identity, father wounds, divorce, grief, rebuilding as a man, and what it looks like to keep going when life hits you from every side.

This was not one of those polished conversations where people act like they always had it together.

This was honest.

This was raw.

This was healing.

Keon shared what it felt like to lose $375,000, start over in Atlanta, wrestle with abandonment, carry grief, rebuild his business, and still learn how to be present for his daughters.

And somewhere in the middle of all that, God was still writing his story.

If you are a man trying to rebuild, if you are healing from loss, if you are learning how to lead better, or if you are just tired of pretending you’re okay, this episode is for you.

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00:00 Welcome to the Love You More Show

00:42 RX Outreach partner message

02:27 Introducing Keion Davis

03:16 How Smooth N Groove started

03:33 Making money fast, then losing everything

04:14 Starting over in Atlanta

05:06 Willie shares Turning Point

08:04 Losing $375,000 and rebuilding from zero

09:31 Identity shift after the loss

10:25 Willie opens up about running from poverty

11:23 Doing events for free and building momentum

13:00 Tyler Perry Studios calls

14:01 What coming home felt like during success

16:03 Abandonment, adoption, and performance based identity

17:11 Growing up without his father

18:48 The childhood turning point

22:32 Meeting his father for the first time

24:09 Why his father stayed away

25:17 Forgiving his father

26:29 Why trusting men was hard

27:25 Men keeping their word

30:30 Marriage, attention, and emotional immaturity

32:10 Taught survival by unhealed men

34:07 Divorce and leadership

36:00 Depression after losing his grandfather

38:11 How he responds to grief now

40:01 Why he’s different now

42:20 Willie speaks life over Keion

44:29 Rest, surrender, and trusting God

47:11 Survival mode vs stewardship

51:24 God can do more than your grind

57:27 What fatherhood looks like now

01:04:41 Willie tells Keion he’s proud of him

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Family, this conversation right here is for the people who have been trying to stay strong while silently bleeding.

In this episode of the Love You Moore Show, I sat down with Prophetess Tiffany Wilson for one of the realest conversations we’ve had in a minute. We talked about what it really looks like to be a woman in ministry, the hidden pressure behind the call, church hurt, divorce, healing, and how God can still use your story while you’re in the middle of it.

Tiffany opened up about being told she was “too pretty to be a preacher,” the challenges women still face in church spaces, and the pain of walking through divorce while still building, preaching, and trying to heal. This wasn’t surface-level. This was honest. This was human. This was necessary.

And family, I believe many people are waiting until everything is polished before they share what God brought them through. But sometimes God will trust you to minister from the wound, not just the scar.

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What part hit you the hardest?

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0:00 Tiffany Wilson gets real, pretty to preach, church pain, divorce

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3:58 Willie introduces Tiffany Wilson

5:10 Tiffany never wanted to preach

5:14 From music dreams to ministry call

7:22 What serving in the background taught her

8:07 The prophetic call that was always on her life

9:14 Music or ministry, the real inner battle

11:28 “Too pretty to be a preacher”

12:01 Willie shares his own transition from music to ministry

13:35 Why being a woman in ministry is still difficult

15:21 The hidden dangers women in ministry face

15:46 The Valentine’s Day bishop story

17:55 Did those experiences change how she viewed men of God?

18:09 “Everybody’s not saved”

19:19 Willie on protecting the jersey of ministry

21:53 Tiffany opens up about divorce

24:53 “I was shattered”

27:58 Who encourages the prophet?

29:10 Was she preaching through pain?

30:36 The perfect storm that led to divorce

32:11 Fasting, prayer, and the missing piece of therapy

33:09 Co-pastor, first lady, and being born to lead

34:59 Willie honors Tiffany for ministering from the wound

36:13 Advice for people thinking about walking away

38:47 What Tiffany would do differently in marriage

40:30 “You wasted my time” and moving toward 40 after divorce

43:19 Willie shares what divorce revealed in him

46:19 Ministering from the wound, not just the scar

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Family, this conversation right here is special.

I sat down with Bishop Jason Nelson, and what we got into was deeper than music. We talked about marriage, ministry, grief, manhood, family, church culture, and what it really looks like to lead without losing your home in the process.

What blessed me most is that Bishop Jason Nelson did not hide behind the title. He showed up as a husband, a son, a father, a pastor, and a real man. We talked about being married to one woman for 29 years, why some men struggle with the church, why family comes before ministry, and how grief can change everything.

There were moments in this conversation that challenged me, and I believe they’re going to challenge you, too.

So whether you love Jason Nelson because of the music, respect him because of the ministry, or you’re just trying to figure out how to live for God without faking it, this episode is for you.

Watch all the way through, take notes, and then come back and tell me what hit you the hardest in the comments.

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00:00 Artists vs pastors, Jason keeps it honest

00:20 29 years with one woman

01:14 Why family comes before church

01:27 Why men struggle with church

05:08 Introducing Bishop Jason Nelson

06:28 Turning Point icebreaker

09:20 Why Jason never leads as an artist

10:35 The example his father gave him

12:24 What changed when he took over the church

13:48 Why the new generation wants information

14:41 The song he did not want to release

17:27 How “Shifting the Atmosphere” changed lives

18:43 Marriage, calling, and becoming a pastor

21:16 Jason thought he would be an engineer

21:55 What the call to preach felt like

23:31 Choosing a spouse before the full calling is clear

24:10 Why alignment matters more than aesthetics

26:48 How to bring a big calling into your marriage

28:10 Slowly and deliberately, how to communicate vision

31:12 Why relationships break when people cannot evolve

32:42 Becoming the pastor without losing the man

35:36 Why pastoring can put children at risk

36:18 A pastor is not your mediator to God

37:38 Honoring a pastor’s humanity in grief

38:11 Why pastors need time to process pain

41:28 Willie opens up about losing his mother

43:43 What Jason says went to glory with his mom

46:12 Learning to adjust to grief

47:04 How Jason and Tanya stay on one accord

48:01 Why men hesitate to come to church

49:40 Can a strong man worship

50:18 Misconceptions women have about men in ministry

52:21 Willie’s final takeaway for men and fathers

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Family, this conversation right here is not surface-level.

Nate Cottman, FromNateWithLove, sat down with me and gave the kind of honesty most people run from. We talked about divorce, integrity, confession, father wounds, generational patterns, vulnerability, obedience, and what real healing actually costs.

What hit me the hardest was this: Nate didn’t just talk about what happened. He talked about what he did. He talked about taking full accountability, confessing to his ex-wife, and choosing truth even when it cost him his comfort. Not gon’ lie, this conversation convinced me in real time.

We also got into what it means to be a man of integrity, how hidden sin affects generations, why testimony still matters, and why some of the deepest healing only comes when you stop hiding.

This is for anybody who has ever messed up, carried shame, tried to bury the truth, or needed God to make them whole again.

Watch this all the way through.

Then tell me which part hit you the hardest.

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00:00 Intro, confession after divorce

02:12 Why this show exists

04:11 Meet Nate Cottman

05:11 Nate’s marriage, divorce, and father loss

07:44 Vulnerability became his superpower

08:32 Confessing to his ex wife

09:16 Willie gets convicted in real time

10:45 The Holy Spirit said confess everything

13:19 The burden that obedience lifts

15:25 What exactly he confessed

18:29 Masculine vulnerability and healing

20:33 Saying what needed to be said

22:22 Freedom on the other side of obedience

25:25 “If she shot the gun, I gave her the bullet”

26:50 Can men take accountability and still acknowledge hurt?

31:56 Love after divorce, dating, and choosing wisely

35:32 His parents’ marriage and generational patterns

37:35 Breaking bloodline cycles

41:42 Obedience over lust

44:32 The Heart Room, why safe spaces matter

45:25 The power of testimony

48:08 Why church felt hard to trust

52:08 Do you still need a shepherd?

54:24 Willie speaks life over Nate

57:35 The Heart Room Tour

58:00 Outro

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Family… this conversation is one of those ones.

Many people know Bishop Joseph W. Walker, III as a leader, a preacher, a builder, and a voice in the faith community. But in this episode, we got past the title and talked to the man.

We talked about grief. We talked about masks. We talked about what it feels like to stand before people and preach hope while your own heart is breaking in private.

Bishop Walker opened up about losing his first wife, Diane, trying to lead while bleeding, learning how to stop hiding behind ministry, and what it really means to become your authentic self again after pain. He also shared how grief changed the way he loves, leads, heals, and even how he chose love again.

This is not just a conversation for pastors.

This is for anybody who has ever had to keep showing up while falling apart inside.

This is for anybody who has ever asked,

“Who am I without the title?”

“Why do we wear masks?”

“How do I heal and still lead?”

And if you’ve ever had to fight through loss, betrayal, disappointment, or the pressure to be strong all the time, I really believe this episode is going to meet you right where you are.

Make sure you subscribe, share this with somebody who needs it, and drop a comment letting me know what part hit you the hardest.

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00:00 Intro question, losing Diane while preaching through pain

00:22 Bishop Walker on grieving in public and private

01:05 Taking the mask off and letting people see his humanity

01:26 Why do Christians feel pressure to wear a mask?

01:44 Human beings, not human doings

01:58 Rick’s Outreach message

02:58 Willie introduces Bishop Joseph W. Walker, III

04:04 Icebreaker, “Save Room for Me”

07:28 Losing Diane, preaching while bleeding

09:05 How people responded to the honest version of him

09:46 The cost of authenticity in church and culture

11:09 Why people judge what you do more than who you are

12:09 Writing a new vision for love after loss

13:00 What really mattered when choosing a wife again

14:14 “It’s the collision of two histories”

15:29 Dating after grief, attention, and protecting your heart

17:42 Book promo, Pursuit of Purpose

17:56 The thin line between God’s voice and people’s projections

19:25 Early life, Shreveport, family, work ethic, and purpose

22:16 Why some men avoid church and leadership

24:26 Accountability and why men resist it

24:46 How Bishop Walker built a church where men feel safe

26:28 Stephanie wanted Joseph, not the pastor

30:14 Reintroducing himself to Joseph

32:23 When the applause stops, who are you really?

34:01 Grieving the loss of his authentic self

35:12 735 funerals and carrying unresolved grief

37:16 Could Stephanie hold space for his grief over Diane?

38:58 How cancer changed his view of health and life

43:04 The chapter that almost didn’t make the book

44:25 Betrayal, pain, and fighting the old version of yourself

47:17 Purpose, peace, and what he wants readers to take away

48:18 Guardrails that protect his integrity

49:24 Willie’s takeaway, purpose, forgiveness, and letting old versions die

54:21 Bishop Walker’s closing word on Pursuit of Purpose

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Family… this one right here is for the people who’ve been carrying pain quietly.

In this episode of the Love You Moore Show, I sat down with Coriya Burns for a conversation that was honest, freeing, and way deeper than I think some people were expecting. We talked about divorce, pressure, pretending, church culture, motherhood, self-worth, and what it really looks like to stop performing and finally walk in truth.

Coriya shared how she and her ex-husband hid their divorce for over a year, how her son saw through it all, and how God began to release her into a brand new season. And not gon’ lie… this conversation has something in it for anybody who has ever stayed too long, carried too much, or lost themselves trying to hold everything together.

There’s a level of freedom on the other side of honesty.

And this episode proves it.

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00:00 Welcome to the Love You Moore Show

01:58 Willie introduces Coriya Burns

03:09 When heartbreak changes how you see yourself

03:53 Willie’s “Clockwork” counseling icebreaker

06:21 Was counseling ever really an option?

06:50 Willie opens up about public divorce pressure

07:38 “We hid our divorce for a year and a half”

08:22 Wearing the rings to church anyway

08:38 Why do people feel pressure to pretend in church?

09:18 She stayed quiet for the young people watching

10:21 What divorce felt like as a mother

11:03 Her son confronted the truth

11:44 “I was teaching my son to sacrifice everything”

12:12 The freedom that came with honesty

13:13 “I love who you are without my dad”

13:48 Ghana became her place to breathe again

15:09 How children recognize peace before adults do

15:39 “It’s all good until somebody gets booed up”

16:10 Still doing family after divorce

17:07 When post-divorce peace turned into chaos

17:40 The gym, the glow-up, and rediscovering herself

18:25 When God started removing the weight

20:02 Willie on identity, parenting, and becoming a new version of yourself

20:54 “They know” — what kids really see

21:47 Redefining strength as a woman

22:30 The vacation that changed everything

23:10 Fasting, guilt, shame, and finally hearing God

24:01 “God said, I don’t like it, but I’m releasing you”

25:05 Peeling back the layers after divorce

26:26 The moment she finally left the ring off

27:02 Relationship over religion

28:17 Growing up between Memphis and D.C.

30:19 From the hood to forestry school in Oregon

32:24 Willie shares his primal wound and decision-making

34:28 Why Coriya became a fixer in relationships

35:15 Wanting to build the two-parent home she never had

36:01 How to not carry that insecurity into love again

37:39 Learning how to receive help

38:23 “He said, I couldn’t see it then”

39:20 Getting used to peace after dysfunction

40:32 Willie speaks life over Coriya’s next chapter

42:12 “More is not my prayer”

42:50 You do not get to this level of freedom by faking

43:38 Willie on owning your story in real time

45:02 The moment his son learned to pray by watching him

45:15 Final encouragement: freedom lives on the other side of honesty

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What an honor.

In this conversation, I got to sit with my brother Raheem DeVaughn, and what he shared was real, honest, healing, and necessary.

We talked about the pain of losing a parent. The kind of heartbreak that changes you. Why so many men cry in silence. How therapy became a breakthrough. What it means to carry grief while still showing up for life.

And why being strong does not mean pretending nothing hurts.

This was bigger than music. This was about manhood. Mental health. Fatherhood. Loss. Grace. Healing. And learning how to keep going when life hits harder than you expected.

Raheem opened up in a way that I believe will help a whole lot of people, especially the men who have been carrying pain quietly and the women who love them.

If you’ve ever had to grieve and keep moving… If you’ve ever looked strong on the outside but felt overwhelmed on the inside… If you’ve ever needed a safe place to heal…

This conversation is for you.

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00:00 Intro

02:00 Willie reveals what he stole from Raheem DeVaughn

04:56 Raheem on mixtapes, hustle, and creating his own lane

08:21 Growing up between his mother and father

11:03 Baptist mother, Muslim father

13:20 How his parents’ pain shaped his view of love

15:02 Raheem on his father’s mental health

16:11 “How fragile the mind is”

18:49 What his father would say about him now

21:00 Willie opens up about losing his biological mother

21:49 Raheem on the heartbreak of losing a parent

23:10 “As men, we are taught not to cry”

24:20 Why therapy changed everything

27:34 The moment he chose therapy

29:10 Love, relationships, and what he wants now

31:21 Learning to say no and choose himself

34:32 What he wants his children to have that he didn’t

36:45 Willie’s message to women about becoming a safe space

39:33 Final thoughts

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In this episode, I sat down with Dr. Irishea Hilliard, and what she shared was honest, healing, wise, and needed.

We talked about growing up as a PK. Getting pregnant at 19. The pressure that comes with church expectations. Walking through divorce in the public eye. Learning yourself after heartbreak. Why therapy matters. Why rest matters. And what it looks like to build a life that is true to who God is calling you to become.

This conversation is for the person who has been trying to hold it all together.

For the woman who has had to keep showing up while healing in private.

For the person who has outgrown an old version of themselves.

For those trying to figure out how to move forward without losing who they are.

Dr. Irishea was real about the pressure. Real about the pain. Real about purpose. And be real about the work it takes to become whole again. There’s healing in this one. There’s truth in this one, and I really believe there’s freedom in this one, too.

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00:00 Growing up a PK and getting pregnant at 19

00:24 Divorce, church scrutiny, and public judgment

00:45 “We were young. I didn’t know me.”

01:58 Willie’s welcome and why this conversation matters

03:11 Meeting Dr. Irishea Hilliard

04:33 The “Clock Work” icebreaker

07:25 Counseling before the official uncoupling

08:30 The backlash of being a bishop’s daughter going through divorce

10:30 Waiting 90 days before making a final decision

10:39 Pregnancy at 19 and the pressure to “fix it”

11:19 Choosing motherhood over adoption

12:45 Dating young with a child

13:35 Trying to fix a wrong with marriage

13:49 When she realized it may have been the wrong decision

14:05 Realizing it on the honeymoon

17:17 “Who is this dude?”

17:50 Why they stayed for 12 years

18:48 “I used my faith… and I still didn’t like him”

19:17 The day he left and never came back

19:31 What divorce did to her as a woman

20:13 Crying in the background and still showing up

20:56 Who taught her how to carry pressure

22:14 Safe places, silence, and not bleeding everywhere

24:54 Why her Mondays are non-negotiable

26:11 Writing, entertainment, and the dreams still in her

27:39 Carrying family through hard public seasons

29:52 Who is Dr. Irishea when nobody’s watching?

31:34 Learning to prioritize herself

33:19 Willie shares his own journey of rediscovering himself

37:57 Food, fashion, and joy outside of ministry

39:26 Why adversity reveals the real you

39:47 Therapy as one of the best decisions she made

41:31 The lie that hurt the most

42:02 Refusing the label of failure

43:22 Who speaks into her life

45:03 What’s next and making room for more

48:35 What submission looks like for her now

50:09 Why she can submit with ease to substance

51:51 The heartbreak that taught her the hardest lesson

52:45 “Your return on investment doesn’t come from that place”

53:29 What a healthy relationship looks like now

54:16 Why marriage may not look traditional for her

55:20 Letting both people stay called and connected

57:42 Willie’s closing word on discovering your next trunk and branches

01:02:26 Dr. Irishea’s final encouragement

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What an honor.

In this conversation, I got to sit with one of the greats, Bishop Paul S. Morton, and what he shared was honest, wise, funny, healing, and deeply needed.

We talked about the real secret to longevity in marriage. The weight of leading people for decades. What can a ministry do to your mind if you never slow down? How his 1998 breakdown became a breakthrough. Why balance matters. Why fellowship still matters. And what it looks like to love your children enough to let them fully become who God called them to be.

We also talked about Bishop Paul S. Morton’s strict upbringing, the leadership journey that helped shape him into the leader of Full Gospel for so many years, and his heart posture when PJ Morton decided to step into mainstream music.

This wasn’t just a conversation about church. This was a conversation about being human. About pressure. About legacy. About healing. And about having a real heart for people.

If you’ve ever carried too much…

If you’ve ever tried to be strong for everybody…

If you’ve ever needed grace while figuring life out…

This one is for you.

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00:00 The secret to longevity in marriage

00:25 The real weight of pastoring people

01:16 Willie welcomes Bishop Paul S. Morton

04:10 Willie shares how the platform was born from pain

04:52 50 years of marriage and the real secret

05:49 Retirement, ministry, and enjoying the fruit of your labor

06:23 “The heavy load is many times pastoring Negroes”

07:08 Why pastoring people is so hard

08:12 Bishop Paul Morton opens up about his 1998 breakdown

09:47 Spiritual warfare, the mind, and becoming stronger

10:09 Did family support him through it?

11:20 Why leaders need to talk about what they’re carrying

12:13 Losing family, Hurricane Katrina, and proving faith

13:50 Willie asks about supporting PJ Morton’s path

15:23 Bishop Morton on PJ Morton doing secular music

16:08 “If God talks about love, why can’t I sing about it?”

17:42 Church culture’s reaction to PJ Morton

19:30 Discovering freedom in retirement

20:09 The nightclub story that almost changed everything

22:25 “I can’t do this… I have to sing for Jesus”

24:26 Family patterns and what stops with you

25:23 Growing up with a very strict father

28:09 Why he apologized to his children

29:30 Wanting the next generation to do better

31:05 Business acumen, entrepreneurship, and multiple streams

34:34 Why pastors need mentoring and accountability

38:17 Losing his father at 12 years old

39:22 The blessing his father prayed over his life

41:17 What legacy means to Bishop Paul S. Morton

43:31 What he would tell his 35-year-old self

46:06 The biggest blind spot in the body of Christ

47:12 Why fellowship matters more than ever

49:12 Willie gets real about Celebrate Recovery and sobriety

51:17 Bishop Morton on sitting down for 40 days after his breakdown

52:15 Final thoughts on kindness, care, and loving people

54:33 Don’t forget to love yourself more

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Hey family… Willie Mo Jr. here.

This episode of the Love You More Show is for anybody who’s ever felt like you did everything right… and still got overlooked. For anybody who’s been on the mountaintop one season, then woke up in a valley the next.

I’m sitting down with my brother JeVon DeWand, a true creative, a proven talent, and a man with a testimony that will shake you in the best way. We talk about the turning point… the seasons where it felt like the bottom fell out… and how God will still give you purpose in the middle of pain.

He opens up about being behind the scenes, the loss that changed everything, the pressure of trying to provide, and the discipline it takes to rebuild your life without losing your peace.

Family… this is not just an interview.

This is mirror work.

If this episode blesses you, do me a favor: subscribe, drop a comment, and share it with someone who’s trying to get back up.

Don’t forget to love yourself… Moore!

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00:00 - Welcome to Love You More (Hurts, habits, hangups, healing)

00:19 - Why subscribing matters + community invitation

00:38 - RX Outreach partner message (affordable medicine help)

01:27 - Show intro / “Love you more”

01:42 - “God, where are you?” + when people let you down

02:02 - Introducing JeVon DeWand + his industry background

02:40 - Battle of the bling (light moment)

03:17 - Icebreaker: “Turning Point” (music opens the conversation)

05:10 - JeVon’s biggest turning point: “bet on myself”

05:38 - Loss + feeling “lost in the shuffle”

07:16 - Yellow slips, missed castings, feeling like it’s over

07:30 - Fatherhood becomes purpose

08:22 - When the rug gets pulled: providing pressure + identity

13:18 - Childhood + co-parenting realities

14:32 - “I’m on my way” moments that broke his heart

18:40 - Being the voice for kids with bottled pain

19:19 - “No one is exempt from adversity”

19:34 - “Make your pain a sure thing”

23:20 - Basement moment + climbing out

28:40 - “My daddy broke that code” (love out loud)

30:06 - Divorce pain + forgiving fathers

31:15 - Verbal wounds men don’t forget

33:11 - Protecting peace at all costs

37:24 - Companionship, growth, and doing the work

40:05 - “Whatever you write or speak…” (future + words)

43:55 - Letting go of disappointment + forgiving people

47:09 - “God, bring it back… use me” (speaking for the people)

50:13 - Willie’s closing challenge + testimony matters

52:31 - Final reminder: Love yourself more

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Family…

This conversation right here is one of them sit with it moments.

Laterras Whitfield pulled up, and we didn’t just talk relationships; we talked about healing.

The kind that doesn’t look good on Instagram.

The kind that forces you to face yourself… forgive your parents… own your mistakes… and trust God when the picture doesn’t make sense.

We talked about:

• What really led to his divorce

• Why transparency saved his life

• How childhood wounds follow us into marriage

• Learning to forgive your parents as people, not just titles

• The danger of being everyone’s hero… but never healing yourself

• And why God sometimes allows endings to create purpose

This wasn’t gossip.

This was growth.

This was grace.

This was two brothers being honest, so somebody else can heal, too.

If this episode speaks to you, don’t just watch it… Share it with somebody who’s walking through their own rebuilding season.

Love You Moore!

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00:00 — Welcome to the Conversation

02:33 — Introducing Laterras Whitfield (Dear Future Wifey)

05:16 — The Hidden Struggles Behind Success

08:40 — Temptation, Marriage & Personal Accountability

10:10 — The #1 Thing Missing in Most Relationships

11:01 — Growing Up With an Emotionally Absent Father

12:23 — Work Ethic vs. Emotional Connection

14:25 — Becoming What You Tried to Avoid

15:23 — Forgiving His Father & Breaking Generational Pain

17:29 — Discovering His Father’s Real Story (Ancestry Reveal)

18:40 — Why We Must Give Our Parents Grace

23:39 — “You’re Everyone’s Hero… But Who’s There For You?”

25:02 — Learning to Sit Still and Heal

27:13 — What He Needs Before Meeting His Future Wife

29:28 — Faith, Divorce & Wrestling With God’s Will

32:08 — Praying: “God, Teach Me How to Divorce With Grace”

33:33 — The Lawn Story That Shows Real Healing

35:03 — Owning His Mistakes Publicly

37:13 — Why Transparency Draws People to Healing

41:22 — Let Your Character Outlive the Lie

45:36 — When A Relationship Ends Even If Love Exists

47:01 — Radical Acceptance & Letting Go

48:14 — What Marriage Is Supposed to Multiply

50:10 — Marriage Is Not a Ball and Chain — It’s a Calling

52:17 — Protecting Peace After Divorce (For You & Your Kids)

55:12 — The Legacy You Leave Matters

56:32 — Gratitude, Brotherhood & Final Words

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Family… this episode is one of those ones.

I sat down with KD Bowe, Ryan Catchings, and Tysean Jackson from the Hardly Initiated Podcast and we had the conversation a lot of folks dance around:

What are men really looking for in a woman?

Why do some men take 2–3 years to decide?

And what do you do when you love him… but you’re tired of guessing?

We talk vetting the right way, character being tested, how men think about providership, money in the dating phase, and why “chemistry” alone won’t carry you through real seasons.

And ladies… I’m not here to shame anybody. I’m here to help you get clarity, protect your heart, and love yourself more while you’re waiting on what’s right.

If something hits you, drop it in the comments.

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00:00 — Cold open: “Eligible bachelor” + what kind of woman could make you marry now?

00:58 — Willie welcomes family + what this show is really about

02:45 — Why I call it a SHOW (not a podcast 😄)

03:58 — The big question: what are men looking for & why commitment feels delayed

08:24 — Patreon question: “2 years… why is he afraid to commit?”

09:31 — KD Bowe: ask him directly + silence tells the truth

11:14 — Tysean: casual → serious… and why men “overprepare”

13:22 — Do you have to be fully ready before commitment? (building together)

14:40 — What a real vetting process should look like (18–24 months+)

15:19 — Lust + impatience as enemies of family

16:19 — “Young in spirit” and how past pain shows up in dating

18:04 — The “ideal man” and what to actually “manifest” (internal qualities)

19:48 — Why character must be tested (seasons, hardship, life changes)

22:51 — Many men don’t know how to vet (unintentional dating)

23:34 — Willie: “I vetted wrong… like a business deal” + little boy/little girl work

26:43 — Marriage friction and growth: seeing yourself in her eyes

28:31 — High-earning women + “men are intimidated” (what’s really happening)

31:34 — Money in dating: should you pay bills? (15K in 3 months??)

34:08 — Are we financing the high or building real connection?

35:06 — “Husband duties / wife duties too early”

36:29 — Authenticity + bringing someone into your world

38:47 — Providing beyond money: merging vision before finances

42:13 — Willie gets vulnerable: trauma, fear, healing, showing up as a man

44:06 — Talking to the “little boy” in the mirror (affirmation + healing)

47:26 — Premarital counseling: what it’s teaching Tysean about staying present

50:26 — Pressure of platform + doing it the right way

51:32 — Final thoughts: vision, authenticity, loving yourself more

58:56 — Willie: “I didn’t have a vision after divorce…” intentionality

1:02:49 — Affirmations: what I see in each brother

1:06:53 — Willie’s challenge to ladies: “pray what you can’t say”

1:08:10 — Outro: Love you more

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Hey family, Willie Moore Jr. here.

This conversation is special… because it’s real. No clickbait. No pretending. Just the truth.

I’m sitting down with Egypt Sherrod and Mike Jackson — and we talk about the stuff most couples don’t want to say out loud:

• what happens when families don’t approve

• how to support your spouse when it’s “their season” and not yours

• how they protected their marriage from outside voices

• counseling, communication, and learning how to argue without throwing daggers

• blending a family, rebuilding life, and staying honest when you’re on the come up

• and Egypt’s fertility journey… the waiting, the heartbreak, the surrender… and how God still wrote the story

If you’ve ever felt behind… misunderstood… or like you’re rebuilding from the ground up, this one is for you. Because you are not what you do. You’re who God says you are.

And if anything in this conversation blessed you, do me a favor: subscribe, share it, and send it to somebody who needs it.

00:00 – Willie tees up the fertility question (no clickbait)

00:12 – “His family didn’t like me…” 19 years of pressure

00:48 – Willie intro + “don’t call it a podcast” (funny warning)

01:57 – HGTV royalty + icebreaker: “Turning Point”

03:15 – Willie’s “Turning Point” story + humor/loss/laughter

06:48 – Egypt explains the original show vision: “It was supposed to be US”

08:27 – “Tell your own story” + pandemic pivot + filming their real life

10:59 – Why their show works: story first, renovation second

12:40 – Supporting a successful spouse: “If we’re one, you’re winning— we’re winning”

14:50 – Morocco moment: “Would you still say yes?”

16:05 – “The doctor said no… God said yes” (timing + pregnancy surprise)

17:27 – Key mindset: your partner is NOT competition

19:12 – Stop being selfish + honoring each other’s season

20:12 – Willie calls the audience out: subscribe/comment 😂

22:51 – Marriage boundaries: safe spaces + protecting the union

25:03 – Counseling story: “She said y’all don’t belong together” (turning point)

28:53 – Keeping it sexy + not becoming roommates

30:57 – Egypt to women: stop rushing + God may be molding him

33:05 – Vision board husband… and he was already there

34:58 – Blended family: “Can she be a mom?”

37:25 – The “money funny, credit bad” honesty date

41:11 – Willie asks: “Can you date a man on the come up?”

42:30 – Building together: credit, family, growth, drama handled maturely

48:50 – Fertility journey: miscarriages, depression, surrender

51:12 – Adoption convo + his honest fear

52:02 – Morocco again… already pregnant (God’s timing)

52:26 – Vegan shift + fibroids + mindset reset

55:17 – Willie’s takeaway: surrender, honesty, healing

57:18 – Message to men: you are NOT what you do

58:31 – Final charge + subscribe + share + Patreon plug

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This episode of The Love You Moore Show is one of the most honest conversations I’ve ever had.

I sat down with my brother Rickey Smiley, and we talked about the grief people didn’t see… the pain the internet joked about… and what it really looks like to keep showing up when your heart is broken.

Rickey opens up about losing his son, navigating therapy, setting boundaries, and how faith doesn’t cancel pain, it helps you survive it. We talk about fatherhood, discipline, protecting your peace, and why “no” is a full sentence when your mental health is on the line.

If you’ve ever felt judged while grieving…

If you’ve ever had to be strong when you were exhausted…

If you’re learning how to love yourself without guilt…

This conversation is for you.

Watch the full episode, take your time with it, and share it with somebody who needs to hear it.

0:00 – Rickey Smiley on grief, being dragged online, and surviving it

0:28 – Willie’s intro + bringing Rickey Smiley on the show

1:44 – Icebreaker + laughs (setting the tone)

6:07 – Marriage, counseling, and relationship truth

9:00 – What Rickey learned from 12 years of marriage

9:40 – Balancing career, family, and structure

11:17 – Companionship, friendship, and what he wants now

13:42 – Willie on adoption + discipline and upbringing

14:37 – Rickey’s grandfather taught him discipline (no alarm clock mindset)

16:12 – “Help me help you” + boundaries in relationships

18:52 – “You haven’t subscribed…” (classic Willie moment)

19:12 – The career shift + pressure that comes with opportunity

21:19 – “No is a sentence” + teaching people how to treat you

23:01 – Why Rickey stopped running every weekend (rest + peace)

27:01 – Why Rickey loves children + raising his grandson

29:18 – Willie’s adoption story: “You chose me”

33:08 – The bond + respect + learning from each other

35:23 – Grief after losing his son: “I’m not the same person”

36:38 – Crying backstage then performing anyway (purpose over pain)

39:00 – The call that changed everything (Dallas + devastating news)

41:29 – Back on radio days later + carrying the family as a leader

43:00 – Serving the homeless while grieving

45:16 – “I didn’t start grieving until a year later”

48:01 – Why therapy matters (faith + tools + healing)

50:14 – “Don’t stab me in the bullet hole” (insult to injury)

51:33 – Fraternity pain + boundaries with culture

57:04 – Recognizing other parents who’ve lost children

58:06 – Willie’s final challenge: therapy + healing + “Love You Moore”

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Family… this episode is one of those ones.

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I sat down with my brother, Yung Joc, and we got REAL about what most people hide: embarrassment, humility, and the pressure of being seen.

We talked about:

• how the streets really end for most people

• what cameras and platforms do to your emotions

• why embarrassment can make you spiral… or make you grow

• and how faith teaches you to pivot without losing yourself

If you’ve been trying to protect your image more than you’ve been protecting your peace… this conversation is for you.

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00:00 Intro + setting the tone

02:30 Streets vs success, why Joc walked away

05:00 How reality TV really works (scripts, scenarios, set-ups)

08:45 “Embarrassment is real”, cameras make people unhinged

10:50 Transparency, facing what could compromise your family

13:00 Bad Boy era mindset + the moment life shifted

16:05 Watching addiction up close, “I had to tell my mom the truth”

19:45 Family + siblings, middle child balance

26:10 Accepting change, pivoting into purpose

28:30 LA season, leadership, choosing church over chaos

31:00 Humility vs image, “what fulfills you vs. what embarrasses you”

34:10 Radio door opens, “that $400 meant everything”

38:20 Social media, people praise the wrong things

39:10 Sponsor break

40:20 Diddy convo, power, warning signs & course correction

44:00 Grief, the past, and why “never look back” is a lie

47:45 Empathy, carrying other people’s weight

51:35 “Embarrassment will teach you better than anything”

52:15 Willie’s challenge, reroute, don’t fear change

56:15 Willie’s wrap-up, faith steps + testimony

59:05 Final charge + subscribe

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I had Pastor DHARIUS DANIELS in the building, and this conversation hit me in my chest.

He said something every man needs to hear: your spouse can’t heal you… But she can create the environment where you can heal. That’s a word for husbands, and for wives, and honestly for anybody trying to love someone through their pain.

We talked turning points, heartbreak, burnout, success, and what happens when you “stop hurting” but you still didn’t heal right. This episode is for the man who’s been carrying it, hiding it, and calling it strength.

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00:00 Intro + “Wives hear me” setup

02:10 “Your spouse can’t heal you” (viral moment)

05:15 Willie: 200K+ family, we just getting started

07:40 Turning Points + the journey people don’t see

10:05 Darius: “My dad showed me the power of words”

13:20 When you didn’t have a model of manhood

16:55 Heartbreak: admit you’re hurt first

18:10 Unhealthy healing (the broken finger story)

21:10 Healing isn’t absence of pain

24:00 Redefining success + burnout testimony

28:25 “Your wife can’t fix you” (run it back)

31:35 Accountability only works with honesty

34:05 “Build a board for your life”

38:20 Holy discontent + next season shift

41:00 Law school vs calling (turning point)

44:10 Ethics: “Is it wise?”

46:30 Normalizing struggle as human

50:05 Megachurch misconceptions (real talk)

59:45 Is church forming disciples?

1:04:15 Final charge + subscribe + Love You Moore

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Some conversations don’t just sound good… they shift you.

In this episode of The Love You Moore Show, I sat down with Dr. Sarah Fontenot (straight outta Saskatchewan, Canada) and we went all the way in on what’s REALLY breaking relationships in 2025.

We talked about:

• why so many people choose partners out of pressure, trauma, and fear

• the difference between high-earning and high-value

• how women can communicate needs without going to war

• why men feel like they have to stay “tough” and how that’s costing us

• and what it actually looks like to build peace, alignment, and a relationship rooted in God

And listen… when she broke down the “logic vs emotion” gap, and how masculinity and femininity collide when we don’t know how to repair conflict? Whew. It got REAL in that room.

If you’re dating, married, divorced, healing, or trying to do it right this time—this one is for you.

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00:00 – Why women choose relationships (pressure vs alignment)

02:15 – Willie’s “icebreaker” + relationship song moment

04:16 – Proposed to twice… why she said “hold up”

06:30 – “Talk is cheap” + vetting process shifting

08:12 – Breadcrumbs, therapy, and choosing yourself

08:48 – “40 is knocking” + success vs family question

10:37 – High earning women + attracting the man you say you want

12:18 – “Put your trauma down” (bars)

14:32 – If he falls off financially… will she still love him?

16:24 – Not demonizing women, nature, safety, and security

18:10 – What she won’t bring into her future relationship

19:50 – “I never saw my parents fight… so I didn’t learn repair”

21:35 – Cues, triggers, and emotional regulation (neck gets hot)

24:00 – Gottman’s Four Horsemen explained

26:06 – How women can communicate needs without conflict

28:14 – Men feeling unappreciated + staffing the home

29:31 – Hack for men: logic won’t work with emotion

32:42 – “Say sorry” without defensiveness (real-time example)

37:05 – Audience reaction: “We don’t care about the track record!”

41:30 – Boundaries + respect: what happens when she keeps going

45:04 – Femininity tests + why it’s really about safety

50:01 – Marriage feels like death sometimes (real talk)

52:03 – When vulnerability gets used in arguments

55:54 – Willie’s boundary: no late-night conflict, protect her heart

58:12 – Creating safety during conflict + repair

01:04:24 – How do we help Black men heal from “toughness”?

01:10:24 – “Do I still want marriage?” Vision for the next season

01:15:01 – Celibacy, choosing right, and honoring yourself

01:16:15 – Willie’s closing: reframe the pain, love you more

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Hey family, Willie Moore Jr here, and welcome back to the Love You More Show.

This episode is for anybody who’s ever been in a relationship where you were doing everything… but still felt unseen. I sat down with Myesha Chaney, author, speaker, singer, and yes… a former First Lady who lived her life in front of the world on platforms like Preachers of L.A.

And she kept it all the way honest: the pressure, the identity, the performance… and the moment she realized she couldn’t keep surviving off optics.

We talk about:

• Why counseling “too late” can’t undo years of emotional neglect

• The difference between love and love with action

• How childhood trauma shows up in marriage

• Why church culture can celebrate you one day, then forget you the next

• And what it really takes to heal until you don’t have a scab… you’ve got a scar

And family… in a season where the internet has been loud about pastors, platforms, and marriages, including what people have been discussing publicly around Jamal Bryant and his wife, I wanted this conversation to bring balance: accountability, healing, and truth… without the gimmicks.

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00:00 Intro: “Love You More” + why this convo matters

01:14 Willie’s welcome + mission of the show

02:00 Who is Myesha Chaney (author / speaker / former First Lady)

03:30 Reality TV + “relationship goals” pressure

04:20 Willie’s counseling story + icebreaker song “Clockwork”

06:55 “We went to counseling too late”

07:30 Childhood + growing up with instability & fear

09:00 Marrying what felt familiar

10:15 “I avoided conflict by being perfect”

11:30 Healing the way you were raised vs how you were made

12:15 “I didn’t face this until I was 40”

13:36 “I never felt safe”

14:50 Rock bottom → deciding to finally do the work

15:48 Pastor’s wife pressure + letting people down

17:17 “I’m not dealing with this anymore”

18:02 Cutting ties + “Too much of my life was controlled”

18:48 “It was either die or leave”

19:05 Accountability: boundaries + over-functioning

20:27 Willie’s reflection: providing vs protecting her confidence

21:12 Malicious or oversight?

22:38 Going to therapy alone

23:44 “Sometimes it’s over before it’s over”

25:45 Mediation + choosing truth over optics

27:22 “I needed love with action”

29:03 What “action” love looks like (real examples)

30:31 Flowing in masculine + carrying the burden

33:19 Why it wasn’t sustainable for life

34:12 How couples can renegotiate roles (healthy script)

36:25 Pastor’s wives reaching out privately

38:13 Church hurt + conditional love

41:13 Motherhood + protecting the kids’ faith

44:17 Doing the work + standing ten toes down

46:40 Myesha’s message to someone in pain

48:05 Willie’s close: scabs vs scars + healing perspective

49:44 Final encouragement + “Love you more”

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