• s5 e8 — LINDA MARTELL and BEYONCÉ: Yeehaw - that’s country as hell!

    This week, Miriam tells the story of the first black woman to gain major commercial success in country music, Linda Martell; and Lavetta covers the life of mega star, Beyoncé, including her new chart topping album release, "Cowboy Carter."

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    In this episode, Miriam first introduces country music artist Linda Martell (American, born 1941), the first black woman to have commercial success in country music. The hosts discuss the challenges she faced in a predominantly white industry and the impact of racism on her career. Martell started her career as part of the singing group the Anglos and later became a solo artist. She signed with Plantation Records, a controversial name for a record label, and released several singles that gained moderate success on the country music charts. She faced taunting and racial slurs from white audiences while performing, but continued to persevere, and dealt with a lawsuit from her manager and limited promotion from her record label. Despite these obstacles, Martell made history as the first black female artist to perform on the Grand Ole Opry radio broadcast.


    Next, Lavetta introduces singer, songwriter, actress and businesswoman Beyoncé (American, born 1981). The hosts discuss her upbringing in a musical family, her early performances, and the formation of the group Girl's Tyme, which later became Destiny's Child. They touch on the struggles the group faced and the eventual success they achieved. Led by Beyoncé, the group faced internal conflict and legal turmoil as they navigated their rise to fame. Beyoncé embarked on a solo career, and she ventured into acting. After a hiatus, she returned with the critically acclaimed self-titled album 'Beyoncé' and later formed her own company. Beyoncé's impact extends beyond music, as she has used her platform to advocate for social justice and empower marginalized communities.

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    S5 - 1h 30m - Apr 11, 2024
  • s5 e7 — MEGHANN CUNIFF and OPRAH WINFREY: Googly-eyed b!tches unite!

    This week, Lavetta covers the recent rise of legal journalist reporter, Meghann Cuniff aka Meghann Thee Reporter; and Miriam covers the legacy of media icon, Oprah Winfrey aka Still A Dime Piece.

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    In this episode, Lavetta introduces Southern California-based legal affairs journalist and reporter Meghann Cuniff (American, born 1984). The hosts discuss her background and career, including her coverage of high-profile trials such as the Vanessa Bryant lawsuit and the Tory Lanez trial. Cuniff's reporting on the Tory Lanez trial gained her notoriety and highlighted the need for factual and unbiased journalism in the age of social media. And as part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the misogyny surrounding the Megan Thee Stallion trial and the hip-hop inspired trials covered by Cuniff. Next, Miriam introduces producer, actress, and media executive Oprah Winfrey (American, born 1954). The hosts explore her early life, childhood, and early career. They touch on Oprah's relationships and personal struggles, and her rise to fame and success. They explore Winfrey's impact on talk shows, her relatability, and her cultural influence. They discuss her unconventional success, her impact on difficult conversations, and her philanthropy. They touch on misconceptions surrounding Oprah, and her ability to address mistakes publicly and her legacy as a trailblazer in the media industry.

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    S5 - 1h 30m - Apr 4, 2024
  • s5 e6 — NANCY JOHNSON and KATE MIDDLETON: Heads should roll!

    This week, Miriam covers the problematic yet fascinating life of ice cream pioneer and inventor, Nancy Johnson; and Lavetta tackles all things surrounding the recent chatter around the Princess of Wales, Kate Middleton.

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    In this episode, Miriam introduces the life and achievements of the inventor of the hand-cranked ice cream churn, Nancy Johnson (American, 1794–1890). The hosts explore the controversy surrounding her "technology-disrupting" patent and the role of Augustus Jackson (American, 1808–1852), an enslaved chef, in the development of American-style ice cream. Next, Lavetta introduces Kate Middleton (British, born 1982), and discusses her background and association with the British Royal Family. Middleton, now known as Catherine, Princess of Wales, comes from a background that combines aristocratic and working-class roots, and she met Prince William while studying at the University of St. Andrews. They married in 2011 and have three children. The hosts discuss the recent speculation and controversy surrounding Kate's apparent disappearance and hospitalization for abdominal surgery, the security breach involving Kate's medical records, and Middleton's release of a video explaining her health condition and treatment.

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    S5 - 1h 14m - Mar 28, 2024
  • s5 e5 — Special guest, DANIELLA RABBANI: It’s the Yiddish Shakespeare for us!

    This week, Miriam and Lavetta sit down to talk with the delightful actress, activist, podcast host and quadruple threat friend, Daniella Rabbani. Check out Daniella on her very own show, the Mom Curious Podcast.

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    This week, Lavetta and Miriam welcome another special guest! Multi-talented actress, director, singer, and podcast host, the very funny Danielle Rabbani (American, born 1984) joins the Notorious Women hosts to discuss her background, professional path, and of course, among podcast hosts, Rabbani's wildly successful podcast Mom Curious, a safe space for moms to have candid conversations about parenthood. The hosts talk about Rabbani's experience in Yiddish theater, growing up Jewish in New York City (vs. anywhere else in America), and generational trauma. The talk about the age-old question, "Are Jewish people white?" and last but definitely not least, hope.

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    S5 - 1h 20m - Mar 21, 2024
  • s5 e4 — MARILYN MONROE and JAIYAH SAELUA: Bad b!tches have bad days too!

    This week, Lavetta tells the story of Hollywood icon and problematic sexual poster girl, Marilyn Monroe; and Miriam tells the story of footballer and faʻafafine trailblazer, Jaiyah Saelua.

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    In this episode, Lavetta introduces the life and legacy of actress, model, and '50s and early '60s sex symbol Marilyn Monroe (American, 1926–1962). The hosts discuss the challenges with Monroe's mother Gladys and the unknown identity of his father. They look into her marriage at a young age, her work at the Radio Plane Company and her successful modeling career. Norma Jeane (her birth name) faced the pressures of early Hollywood, underwent a transformation into the iconic Marilyn Monroe, and dedicated herself to becoming a better actor. Lastly, the hosts describe her financial struggles, her relationships, and her popularity and the effects of her sex symbol persona on her legacy. And they discuss her untimely death. Next, Miriam introduces trailblazing footballer Jaiyah Saelua (American Samoan, born 1988) who played for the American Samoa national team, who overcame challenges and achieved success in the sport. Saelua is fa'afafine, which is a third gender present in Polynesian society, and she was the first openly transgender footballer qualified to appear in a FIFA's World match, and she continues to be a FIFA ambassador for equality and LGBT athletes.

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    S4 - 1h 42m - Mar 14, 2024
  • s5 e3 — Special guest, FIZAA DOSANI: It’s pronounced SZA!

    This week, Miriam and Lavetta talk and laugh it up with Indian-American writer, comedian and performer, Fizaa Dosani.

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    This week, Lavetta and Miriam welcome another special guest! Stand-up comedian and actress Fizaa Dosani (Indian-American) joins the Notorious Women hosts to discuss her background, experiences in stand-up comedy, and challenges in the entertainment industry. Dosani talks about growing up in Florida and the prevalence of Confederate flags. She shares her journey in stand-up comedy, from early interest to finding her voice. She discusses the stereotypes she has faced as an Indian American actress and the importance of representation. They highlight the creation of Facial Recognition Comedy, a platform for diverse comedians who challenge the confusion and tokenism faced by South Asian women in the comedy industry. She shares her experiences of being mistaken for other South Asian comedians, the frustration that led her to create the platform, and the challenges of representation and diversity in Hollywood, including the prevalence of colorism.

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    S2 - 1h 2m - Mar 7, 2024
  • s5 e2 — ALTHEA GIBSON and LULU WHITE: You can always catch these hands!

    This week, Miriam covers the remarkable and sometimes hilarious life of tennis great, Althea Gibson; and Lavetta covers one of the most interesting bad girls in history and who the New Orleans Gilded Age press called the “Notorious Negress,” Lulu White.

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    In this episode, Miriam introduces the life and achievements of Althea Gibson (American, 1927–2003), a trailblazing African-American tennis player who crossed the color line of international tennis. The hosts cover Gibson's early life and introduction to tennis, her rise in the sport, her financial struggles, her historic achievements, international success, and retirement. Gibson had an enormous impact on the tennis world and leaves a legacy as a pioneer for black athletes. Next, Lavetta introduces Lulu White (American, 1868–1931), a notorious figure in New Orleans during the Storyville period. Known as the Diamond Queen due to her extravagant lifestyle and wealth, the hosts discuss her background, her business ventures, and the luxurious brothel she owned called Mahogany Hall, which featured photographs and biographies of the women who worked there. White's reputation, violent offenses, and legal troubles are also examined, along with her failed business ventures. They look at White's decline and demise, as well as her legacy and references in popular culture.

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    S5 - 1h 23m - Feb 29, 2024
  • s5 e1 — Special guest, DENISE NICHOLAS: an interview with a living legend

    This week, Miriam and Lavetta kick off Season 5 by sitting down with legendary actor, writer and Civil Rights activist, Denise Nicholas.

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    In this special episode, Miriam and Lavetta talk with actress, civil rights activist, and author Denise Nicholas (American, born 1944). Nicholas shares personal stories and the challenges she faced as a black actress in Hollywood. The hosts talk with Nicholas about her involvement in the civil rights movement and her experiences touring with the Free Southern Theater, a community theater group founded in 1963 at Tougaloo College in Madison County, Mississippi. Nicholas describes her transition to writing and the creative freedom it provided her, and how her transition to a new career gave her control over her creative life. She shares her excitement and experiences during the release of the film Let's Do It Again. She talks about playing against type and the fun she had working with Bill Cosby and Calvin Lockhart. She highlights her work on the television series In the Heat of the Night and the importance of promoting diversity in the industry. Nicholas emphasizes the significance of remembering history and the current challenges faced by society. Finally, Nicholas expresses her anticipation for the release of her memoir and the possibility of a movie adaptation.

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    S5 - 53m - Feb 22, 2024
  • s4 e13 — BELLE DA COSTA GREENE and BRIDGET BIDDY MASON: And still we rise, b!tches!

    This week, Lavetta covers the boss lady life and legacy of Morgan Library director Belle da Costa Greene; and Miriam covers the remarkable life of enslaved woman turned real estate mogul, Bridget Biddy Mason.

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    In this episode, Lavetta introduces the life of Belle da Costa Greene (American, 1879–1950), a black woman who passed for white and became the librarian and confidante of J.P. Morgan. The hosts explore her upbringing, her decision to pass for white, and her successful career in building the Morgan Library collection. Despite the challenges she faced, Greene was able to navigate the complexities of race and society to achieve success in the Gilded Age. Next, Miriam introduces Bridget Biddy Mason (American, 1818–1891), a remarkable woman born into slavery. They explore her journey to California and her fight for freedom. Mason, a former slave, became a real estate mogul and left a lasting legacy. She acquired significant wealth and properties in Los Angeles, which she passed down to her descendants. Mason's generosity extended beyond her own family, and in work as a nurse, midwife, and philanthropist, she also gave back to her community and future generations.

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    S4 - 1h 15m - Feb 15, 2024
  • s4 e12 — MARGARET CAVENDISH and ROXANNE SHANTE: Sci-Fi stans vs. Rap stans

    This week, Miriam covers the difficult yet accomplished life of writer and Elizabethan era sci-fi author, Margaret Cavendish; and Lavetta covers the surprising and hilarious origins of the Rap/Hip Hop beef thru the life story of Rap/Hip Hop pioneer, Roxanne Shante.

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    In this episode, Miriam introduces philosopher, scientist, and writer Margaret Cavendish (English 1623–1673), a high society duchess who made significant contributions to philosophy and literature. Unusual for a time when female writers stayed anonymous, Cavendish published under her own name and she wrote on early modern science, power, gender, and natural philosophy, including one of the first science fiction books. Next, Lavetta introduces original female rapper Roxanne Shante (American, born 1969), known for her role in one of the first rap beefs on record. Shante rose to fame at the age of 14 with her hit song 'Roxanne's Revenge.' Growing up in the projects, the hip hop artist discovered her talent for rap battles and caught the attention of record producer Marley Marl. Together, they created a diss track that sparked the Roxanne Wars, leading to over 55 response records. Despite facing challenges and exploitation in the industry, Shante continued to make music and mentor young female artists. Her story was later depicted in the biopic 'Roxanne Roxanne.'

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    S4 - 1h 12m - Feb 8, 2024
  • s4 e11 — BERTHA HEYMAN and TAYTU BETUL: You say cunning, I say charismatic.

    This week, Lavetta tells the unbelievable story of one of the most shameless scam artists ever, Big Bertha Heyman; and Miriam tells the even more unbelievable story of Ethiopian empress, Taytu Betul.

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    In this episode, Lavetta introduces notorious scammer and con artist Bertha Heyman (American, 1851–1927), known for her ability to deceive and swindle wealthy men. Lavetta describes Heyman's scams, which ranged from stealing watches and jewelry to forging checks and bonds. Despite multiple arrests and convictions, she continued to scam people and even managed to con a Wall Street broker out of a significant sum of money. One of her most audacious scams involved posing as a wealthy widow looking for a Jewish husband. She managed to obtain expensive gifts and credit from suitors before disappearing with the valuables. The hosts discuss Heyman's ability to charm, which even gave her press darling status. Next, Miriam introduces Empress Taytu Betul (Ethiopian, 1851–1918), who played a significant role in the unification of Ethiopia and the Battle of Adwa. She was known for her intelligence, diplomacy, and efforts to improve the lives of her people. The hosts discuss her education and accomplishments, marriages and relationships, and her political power and initiatives, and finally, her downfall.

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    S4 - 1h 8m - Feb 1, 2024
  • s4 e10 — JEN SHAH and KIM SUN-JA: It’s the waterboarding for me!

    This week, Miriam covers the crazy life story of Real Housewives star and convicted felon, Jen Shah; and Lavetta covers the even crazier killing spree of South Korea’s first female serial killer, Kim Sun-Ja.

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    In this episode, Miriam introduces convicted felon Jen Shah (American, born 1973), who gained fame as a cast member on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. The hosts explore Shah's background and early life, her appearance on the reality show, her businesses, and her documented anger issues. The conversation delves into Shah's arrest on charges of wire fraud and money laundering as part of an alleged nationwide telemarketing scheme that targeted senior citizens, highlighting the vulnerability of elderly individuals to scams. Next, Lavetta introduces serial killer Kim Sun-Ja (Korean, 1937–1997), a housewife who lived above her means and had a gambling addiction. To sustain her lifestyle, she resorted to borrowing money and committing murder. She targeted friends, relatives, and creditors, poisoning them to collect their belongings. Arrested after a series of suspicious deaths, Kim vehemently denied the charges but was found guilty, and eventually executed by hanging.

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    S4 - 1h 21m - Jan 25, 2024
  • s4 e9 — CORETTA SCOTT KING and AMY TRASK: Who you callin’ a prop?!

    This week, Lavetta covers the extraordinary life of civil rights icon, Coretta Scott King; and Miriam covers the extraordinary work of sports leadership icon, Amy Trask.

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    In this episode, Lavetta introduces author, activist, and civil rights leader Coretta Scott King (American, 1927–2006). The hosts explore King's childhood and her tomboyish nature, her family's business, and the racial discrimination they faced. They highlight King's activism and her relationship with her husband Martin Luther King Jr. She played a crucial role in supporting him, and was an influential activist and powerful advocate in her own right. King faced challenges and opposition, but she remained dedicated to the fight for equality and justice. Her legacy includes her work in establishing the Martin Luther King Center for Nonviolent Social Change and her efforts to make Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday a national holiday. Next, Miriam introduces sports executive Amy Trask (American, born 1961), the former CEO of the Oakland Raiders. The hosts explore Trask's love for football, her journey to the Raiders, and her close relationship with owner Al Davis. They discuss Trask's leadership style and the challenges she faced as a woman in a male-dominated industry. The episode concludes with a discussion about Trask's legacy and her current endeavors as a football analyst and podcast host.

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    S4 - 1h 30m - Jan 18, 2024
  • s4 e8 — TAYLOR SWIFT and PAM GRIER: Baddies unite!

    This week, Miriam covers the extraordinary life of mega music star, Taylor Swift; and in an homage to her recently deceased grandmother, Lavetta covers the life story of the first bonafide female action star and 1970s blaxploitation queen, Pam Grier.

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    In this episode, Miriam introduces the life and career of music icon Taylor Swift (American, born 1989). The hosts revisit her early musical beginnings, and how her ambition and talent propelled her to success at a young age. They discuss her controversies, including the interrupted VMA speech and her legal battles, and how through it all, Swift kept her family close, and showed resilience and determination, becoming a powerhouse in the music industry with millions of fans worldwide. They survey Swift's control over her music, her activism and advocacy, her political engagement, and her recognition as TIME Person of the Year. Next, Lavetta introduces black action icon Pam Grier (American, born 1949), beginning with her childhood and family, a traumatic experience, her move to Los Angeles, and her entry into acting. Grier rose to stardom in the 1970s, with breakthrough roles in the low-budget films Coffy and Foxy Brown. She became known for her strong and sexy on-screen presence and for her impact on black exploitation films. Her portrayal of powerful black women resonated with audiences. Grier's career was reinvigorated in 1996 with Quentin Tarantino's film Jackie Brown. She had relationships with Freddie Prinze and Richard Pryor, but she chose to prioritize herself and her career, and continues to be a respected and influential figure in the entertainment industry and her philanthropic work.

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    S4 - 1h 26m - Dec 28, 2023
  • s4 e7 — CATHERINE DICKENS and KATHERINE LEE BATES: What in the Dick-ens is this?

    This week, in the spirit of the holidays, Lavetta tells the little known life story of author Catherine Dickens, wife of Charles Dickens; and Miriam covers the extraordinary life of author and poet, Katherine Lee Bates.

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    In this episode, Lavetta introduces writer Catherine Dickens (English, 1815–1879), the wife of renowned author Charles Dickens. The hosts explore Dickens' early life, her marriage to Charles, and her own creative endeavors, including a cookbook and writing under the pen name Lady Maria Clutterbuck. They delve into Charles' resentment towards her, his alleged infidelity, and Dickens' decision to file for separation. And they explore the public perception of Dickens and how Charles manipulated the narrative to paint her as an unfit wife and mother. Miriam then shares the story of "America the Beautiful" author Katherine Lee Bates (American, 1859–1929), who additionally wrote the poem "Goody Santa Claus on a Sleigh Ride." Bates is often associated with the character of Mrs. Claus, but she was also a social activist and advocate for equality and peace. Both Catherine Dickens and Katherine Lee Bates faced challenges and fought for their own identities and reputations in a society that often marginalized them.

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    S4 - 1h 7m - Dec 21, 2023
  • s4 e6 — JULIA C. COLLINS and EVELYN DICK: Giggling like 10-year-old boys!

    This week, Miriam tells the story of Julia C. Collins, the woman behind a character from the tv series "The Gilded Age"; and Lavetta gets the adolescent puns rolling when she tells the story of one of Canada’s most notorious women, Evelyn Dick.

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    In this episode, Miriam introduces writer and educator Julia C. Collins (American, 1842–1865), who inspired the tv series "The Gilded Age" character Peggy Scott, an upper crust Black woman from Brooklyn. Collins was born a free woman in 1842 in the north, was raised in a family active in Black politics and the Black church, and was a gifted writer. While living in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, she was a school teacher for African-American children, and wrote essays about racial and female empowerment. In 1865, she started a serial novel for The Christian Recorder titled The Curse of Caste; or The Slave Bride, about a mixed race mother and daughter in the time of slavery and caste prejudice. She died before completing the novel. In 2006, Oxford University Press published Collins' story with two alternate endings, and it is the novel that inspired the tv series' Peggy. Next, Lavetta introduces convicted murderer Evelyn Dick (Canadian, born 1920) and her tumultuous life filled with scandal and crime. Born to Scottish immigrants, Dick grew up in a family with aspirations of social climbing. She engaged in relationships with wealthy men, hoping to secure her financial future. However, her marriage to John Dick was volatile, and she resumed affairs with other men. Charged with his murder, she was acquitted, but she was later convicted of manslaughter in the death of her infant son. Dick's story has been the subject of various media adaptations.

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    S4 - 1h 3m - Dec 14, 2023
  • s4 e5 — LEONA HELMSLEY and ARTEMISIA GENTILESCHI: The Grinch ain’t got nuthin’ on her!

    This week, Lavetta tells the hilarious and unbelievable life story of the “Queen of Mean,” Leona Helmsley; and Miriam tells the heartbreaking and ultimately triumphant story of Italian artist, Artemisia Gentileschi.

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    In this episode, Lavetta introduces the life and actions of flamboyant New York City Jewish businesswoman Leona Helmsley (American, 1920–2007), known as the Queen of Mean. The hosts discuss Helmsley's upbringing, her beginnings in real estate, and when she became established and married Harry Helmsley, her disputes with contractors, legal troubles, and rivalry with Donald Trump and the intervention of Rudolph Giuliani, ending with her conviction and prison sentence, and her legacy. Then, Miriam continues with the story of Baroque painter Artemisia Gentileschi (Italian, 1593–1653), who overcame personal tragedy and societal obstacles to become a successful and respected artist. Gentileschi's early talent and her traumatic experience of rape by fellow artist Agostino Tassi are explored, as well as her complicated relationship with her friend Tuzia Medaglia and with her father Orazio Gentileschi. Gentileschi's life was marked by trauma and adversity, and included a high-profile legal battle, and love affairs. Despite all this, she achieved great success in her career and left a lasting legacy with her unique artistic style and subject matter of strong and vigorous women, challenging traditional gender roles and stereotypes.

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    S4 - 1h 24m - Dec 7, 2023
  • s4 e4 — REGINA JONAS and BRENDA ANN SPENCER: The first female is not always a good thing!

    This week, Miriam recounts the exemplary life of the first female rabbi, Regina Jonas; and Lavetta recounts the tragic life of America’s first female school shooter, Brenda Ann Spencer.

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    In this episode, Miriam introduces rabbi Regina Jonas (German, 1902–1944). Born in Berlin, Jonas intended to make a career as a teacher, but while in university, she had a new goal of becoming a rabbi. Her ordination took many years due to gender inequality in religious leadership, but she finally became the first female rabbi in 1935. Nazi persecution forced many rabbis to leave Germany, but Jonas, possibly out of the necessity to protect her elderly mother, stayed in Nazi Germany. In 1942, the Gestapo deported Jonas to Theresienstadt concentration camp. While there, she continued her work as a rabbi. In 1944, she was sent to Auschwitz where she was murdered. Lavetta continues with convicted and incarcerated murderer Brenda Ann Spencer (American, born 1962), who committed a mass shooting at the Grover Cleveland Elementary School in San Diego. Spencer was only 16 when she committed the shooting and was living across the street. After her parents separated, she was recommended for admission to a mental hospital for depression but her father instead gave her a rifle with rounds of ammunition. The police found that she and her father slept on a single mattress on the living room floor in a house strewn with empty bottles. Spencer's tragic story highlights the devastating consequences of neglect and abuse on mental health.

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    S4 - 57m - Nov 30, 2023
  • s4 e3 — ELINOR BILLINGTON and LUCY MAUD MONTGOMERY: It’s called white-on-white crime!

    This week, Lavetta tells the hilarious story of the mother of one of the most annoying Mayflower families, Elinor Billington; and Miriam tells the story of one of the most beloved Canadians, Lucy Maud Montgomery.

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    In this episode, Lavetta introduces the story of Elinor Billington (English, 1582–1642), a passenger on the Mayflower and who, along with her family, was one of the first settlers in the New World. The hosts explore the background of the Mayflower voyage, the different groups on board, and the signing of the Mayflower Compact, designed to quell the brewing discontent and establish a new agreement among the passengers. The Billingtons were known for their troublemaking and confrontational behavior, causing tensions among the Pilgrims and other colonizers. Billington, in particular, faced challenges and was involved in slander and whipping incidents. Next, Miriam introduces Lucy Maud Montgomery (Canadian, 1874–1942), the prolific author of the beloved Anne of Green Gables series and a collection of novels, essays, short stories, and poetry. Montgomery's early life, education, and teaching career are explored, highlighting her passion for writing and her ability to bring joy, despite her struggles with depression and the challenges she faced as a woman in a patriarchal society.

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    S4 - 1h 18m - Nov 23, 2023
  • s4 e2 — SONORA WEBSTER CARVER and NANCY REAGAN: The good, the bad and the problematic!

    This week, Miriam tells the amazing story of the old-skool live show entertainer, Sonora Webster Carver; and Lavetta tells the surprising life story of Nancy Reagan.

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    In this episode, Miriam introduces one of the first horse divers, Sonora Webster Carver (American, 1904–2003). In 1923, at 19 years old, Webster answered an advertisement from William "Doc" Carver. Her job for Doc was to ride a horse up a 40–60 foot tower and stay on the horse as it plunged into a 11-foot deep pool of water. In 1931, as she was diving, she hit the water with her eyes open, and her retina detached. In spite of her complete blindness, Webster trained herself to continue to perform and she did so until 1942, when the show ended because of the war. Next, Lavetta introduces the life of Nancy Reagan (American, 1921–2016) after she left the White House, including the establishment of the Nancy Reagan Foundation and the IRS investigation into the Reagans' gifts and loans. They also explore Reagan's role in politics and her rankings in the list of First Ladies. The conversation delves into the hypocrisy and privilege of the Reagans, particularly in relation to the AIDS crisis and welfare fraud. The hosts highlight the demonization of black and brown people and the erasure of poor white people in Reagan's legacy. 

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    S4 - 1h 8m - Nov 16, 2023
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