tw: brief mention of suicide

Life is life-ing. Gabe and River talk parasocial relationships, the documentary Will & Harper, queerness and fame, Gabe’s feelings on his pre transition fashion, and River’s thoughts on voting for Jill Stein in the 2024 election.

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River has business and shows! Sunny writes in asking how to feel sexy or hot in their body and Gabe and River address a DM about sex changing after transitioning. Then, Gabe and River discuss dating burnout, top surgery concerns, Gabe's gender fluidity, masculinity and anger, and disordered eating. And finally, some recent news involving Imane Khelif and the 2024 election.

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Gabe and River talk about acquiring new skills. Then, we read your mail! A listener wants to know what they should call their trans guy support group and how to best keep the group together. Who would River play in live action Frozen? Theo wants to share how Ben Greene's episode helped their journey with their aunt's acceptance of their transness. Other listeners want advice on using a binder, a young listener praises the duo and makes them feel old, and another "red state" queer writes an incredibly eloquent and heartfelt email about being LGBTQ in Arkansas. And then Gabe addresses a disparaging Apple review about him and River ends up having to announce Trump's attempted assassination on stage during a show. 

PS: Per the beginning convo, it's absolutely been over 2 years since Gabe started T lol

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cw: food, diet and working out discussion in the introduction

Gabe and River discuss working out and muscle building. Then, comedian Jes Tom joins the podcast for a freewheeling conversation about keyhole top surgery pros and cons, going by they/them pronouns since 2011, and the use of "she." Jes and Gabe vs. River's sexuality, using a hoe era to figure out who you are, and living and loving amongst cis gay guys. And finally, what it was like to do their one-person show "Less Lonely."

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Gabe and River are as normal as two regular guys. Was puberty traumatic for everyone? River answers a listener's question about getting misgendered. Then, Florida, the movie Stress Positions, and which Challengers boys we'd be. Author Ben Greene joins the show to talk about his book on creating joy around trans kids, his experience coming out as trans in high school, and then into some deep philosophy about expanding community, crypto-fascism, parental grief, and EVERYTHING. This is a great one. Settle in, make some tea, and enjoy.

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River gives a very cool update on the WNBA draft and coach Dawn Staley's comments on trans women in sports. Next, an incredible question leads to a nuanced conversation about internalized transphobia and judging other trans people. Then, what's the correlation between transness and "giftedness?" A listener writes in to commiserate with River's comments about holding dual identities. Finally, how do we feel about transness and aging?

Link: https://transadvocacyok.org/

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Gabe and River both had great experiences in New York... separately. Then, rapper Cuee joins the show to talk about the business of being a queer rapper, his political and creative inspirations (and what it means to be a loverboy), and redoing your old albums post-transition aka (Taylor's Version) (Trans). Plus, performing at Lawrence, Kansas' first Pride, being an incredibly confident stud in high school, and how he and ESPN's Katie Barnes got their boarding school to change their uniforms.

Cuee: https://cueemusic.com/

https://www.instagram.com/cueemusic/

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Adrian sends a fantastic email about cherry-picking horror stories from the state of Florida that has River cheering in his seat. Then, trans casting director Charlie Hano joins the pod to talk about auditioning dos and don'ts, the constantly changing landscape for what trans looks like in entertainment, and his own transition story born from a dream.

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Gabe wants to find River a husband at a sports bar, even though River is in his "hetero era." The duo talk about all kinds of topics, including looking for unconditional love, dying their beards, relating to Ken in the Barbie movie, masculinizing facial filler, and whether everyone hates being a woman. Should trans people boycott Florida? Gabe and River address an email about an NYPD ad appearing at the end of an episode, and the tragic murder of non-binary student Nex Benedict.

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Writer, actor, producer, host, lover and friend Vico Ortiz joins the podcast to talk about therapy, attachment styles and astrology, their drag style, coming out as polyamorous and one million other fascinating topics. Plus, which host did Vico go on a date with? (You’ll never guess.)

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Gabe and River are finally caught up on episodes enough to discuss the Free Palestine movement and the genocide in Gaza. Thank you to the listener who left the comment that sparked this conversation. Then, a listener writes in asking what Gabe and River's feelings are about cis men now that they've transitioned. It gets spicy!

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Hey friends, some of the audio sounds different in places due to recording in Zoom. Thanks for your patience. Love you!

River and Gabe discuss the childhood toys or interests that they later believe were trans. (The 80s were wild for River and boy's dolls.) Then, The Owl House's Avi Roque joins the pod to talk about vocal health and testosterone's impact on their career in voice acting and audio books. This is a feel good one, babes.

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Gabe and River discuss fundraising for Gabe's new trans movie they're directing. They also answer a listener's question about whether they're trans enough to medically transition and about having doubts. Then, they talk about the ongoing mockery of "they/them" pronouns not just by young people, but as a larger political Boogeyman, and about the many trans writers in the science fiction writing sphere. Gabe goes into their love of Star Trek, The People's Joker, and bisexual villains. Plus, more about Peter Parker being trans-coded. 

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River's comedy special is out!! Hooray!! How do you play it if Hollywood can't place you? River and Gabe share some very personal experiences! What gift have they each gotten from fans, what does it mean when someone's therapist recommends your comedy, and how do parasocial relationships work? Plus, Gabe is dating a famous podcaster! Then, we answer your emails and Ko-Fi comments! Two college baseball players are dating and it's incredible! River gives a little history of gay baseball players.

Link: https://www.outsports.com/comingout/2023/10/11/23910340/cole-philpott-aiden-phipps-college-baseball-bisexual-lgbtq-boyfriends-ncaa-coming-out

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Gabe and River give advice to a listener that wants to support and connect to their gender questioning partner. Then, the first openly trans athlete in professional American hockey and two-time champion Harrison Browne joins the podcast to talk about coming out while playing a professional team sport, the juicy drama of women's sports, and the history of gendered sports rules. Plus, the tough question: why hockey?

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A listener writes in asking River and Gabe if they have to come out as trans at work as they start transitioning. Then, The Trans Therapist Alo Johnston joins to talk about honing his specialty in working with trans clients, the benefit of shared experiences, and whether you're trans ENOUGH.

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How often do trans men think about the Roman Empire? River went to Thanksgiving with two celebrities. Then, the duo answer your listener questions about connecting to your body through sports, recommendations for acting monologues as a trans guy, gendered experiences on the school bus, hot tips on oral minoxidil, growing butt hair, being a cis listener, and getting a binder. They also discuss top surgery for everyone! This episode has everything! Write in to the show at theknewguyspodcast@gmail.com

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Gabe and River talk about their experiences in the men's restroom after a listener writes in worried about being misgendered there. What does River use to stand to pee? How much longer can Gabe use the women's room? And what is "low disclosure?" Then, performer and "guinea pig dad" Maze Felix joins the show to talk about how ASL interpreting created queer and trans community for them, their journey leaving Ohio and having top surgery with a community care team, and the meaning of the identity "trans non-binary."

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Astrologer Jessica Lanyadoo comes onto the pod and reads both River's and Gabe's astrological charts, blowing both their minds. It gets deep. Then, she reads Gabe and River's compatibility. Plus, what do the stars say about gender and masculinity? This is a wholesome and emotional one. Get into it.

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River is back! How to say no! Visiting Japan! A 21-year-old goes viral for pretending to be his own mother in drag and somehow everyone loves it! Then, the duo go over all your mail. Jamie wants them to expand on the idea that certain cishet people are queer. Two people have advice on beard growth and minoxidil. River's name twin asks Gabe if feminine clothing just feels "safer" or if this is born out of fear. Then, overthinking internalized transphobia. And finally, high school reunions!

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