Water-cooler conversation about web-development. We want to entertain, inspire, and motivate you -- or to put it another way, make your coding career more enjoyable.

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How are we doing? No, really. The world moves fast, and keeping up doesn&#39;t leave much time to check in. This week, Adam and Ben settle in for a little podcast therapy.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://xkcd.com/303/" rel="nofollow">Compiling</a> — an xkcd comic about waiting for code to compile.</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/275-the-feelings-episode/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

How are we doing? No, really. The world moves fast, and keeping up doesn&#39;t leave much time to check in. This week, Adam and Ben settle in for a little podcast therapy.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Compiling — an xkcd comic about waiting for code to compile.
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/275-the-feelings-episode/

275: The Feelings Episode

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Has a year of talking to LLMs changed the way we talk to people? Great question, and you&#39;re absolutely right! And when the models write all the code, what&#39;s left for us? This week the hosts answer more listener questions.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://github.com/pingdotgg/t3code" rel="nofollow">T3 Code</a> — an app for running coding agents.</li><li><a href="https://www.proxmox.com/" rel="nofollow">Proxmox</a> — splits a physical machine into virtual machines and containers.</li><li><a href="https://tailscale.com/" rel="nofollow">Tailscale</a> — private network access to your machines without opening ports.</li><li><a href="https://jellyfin.org/" rel="nofollow">Jellyfin</a> — self-hosted media server.</li><li><a href="https://pi-hole.net/" rel="nofollow">Pi-hole</a> — network-wide ad blocker.</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/274-bot-manners-and-good-taste-listener-questions/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

Has a year of talking to LLMs changed the way we talk to people? Great question, and you&#39;re absolutely right! And when the models write all the code, what&#39;s left for us? This week the hosts answer more listener questions.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

T3 Code — an app for running coding agents.
Proxmox — splits a physical machine into virtual machines and containers.
Tailscale — private network access to your machines without opening ports.
Jellyfin — self-hosted media server.
Pi-hole — network-wide ad blocker.
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/274-bot-manners-and-good-taste-listener-questions/

274: Bot Manners and Good Taste - Listener Questions

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What would you do if your manager asked you to make the audit trail editable? Why would Carol rather be evil? And would you still want to be a software engineer in five years, or is it finally time to buy the ice cream truck? This week the hosts answer listener questions on ethical lines, career pivots, and the future of software engineering.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://github.com/wooorm/starry-night" rel="nofollow">starry-night</a> - the syntax highlighter behind Ben&#39;s new blog API.</li><li><a href="https://defcon.org/" rel="nofollow">DEF CON</a> - the hacking conference behind the red-teaming and social-engineering discussion.</li><li><a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/271-slop-is-the-new-clean/" rel="nofollow">271: Slop Is the New Clean</a> - the earlier discussion of Uncle Bob and Matt Pocock&#39;s interview that Ben revisits.</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/273-ethical-lines-and-career-crossroads-listener-questions/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

What would you do if your manager asked you to make the audit trail editable? Why would Carol rather be evil? And would you still want to be a software engineer in five years, or is it finally time to buy the ice cream truck? This week the hosts answer listener questions on ethical lines, career pivots, and the future of software engineering.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

starry-night - the syntax highlighter behind Ben&#39;s new blog API.
DEF CON - the hacking conference behind the red-teaming and social-engineering discussion.
271: Slop Is the New Clean - the earlier discussion of Uncle Bob and Matt Pocock&#39;s interview that Ben revisits.
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/273-ethical-lines-and-career-crossroads-listener-questions/

273: Ethical Lines and Career Crossroads - Listener Questions

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LLMs have read everything, but they haven&#39;t spent fifteen years at the company learning which rules actually matter. Can a model ever bring a career&#39;s worth of experience to a decision, or is human wisdom overrated to begin with? And now that every answer starts with &#34;let me ask Claude&#34;, are we really more productive than ever, or have we all just hired a ghostwriter? This week we discuss the abdication of opinion.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://github.com/mattpocock/skills" rel="nofollow">Matt Pocock&#39;s skills</a> — grill-me and Wayfinder.</li><li><a href="https://cron-job.org/" rel="nofollow">cron-job.org</a> — the cron host Adam landed on.</li><li><a href="https://github.com/openblack/openblack" rel="nofollow">openblack</a> — the open-source Black &amp; White engine Tim is vibe-coding on.</li><li><a href="https://www.thetrevorproject.org/" rel="nofollow">The Trevor Project</a> — where Adam&#39;s thirty dollars from Infisical went.</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/272-let-me-prompt-that-for-you/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

LLMs have read everything, but they haven&#39;t spent fifteen years at the company learning which rules actually matter. Can a model ever bring a career&#39;s worth of experience to a decision, or is human wisdom overrated to begin with? And now that every answer starts with &#34;let me ask Claude&#34;, are we really more productive than ever, or have we all just hired a ghostwriter? This week we discuss the abdication of opinion.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Matt Pocock&#39;s skills — grill-me and Wayfinder.
cron-job.org — the cron host Adam landed on.
openblack — the open-source Black &amp; White engine Tim is vibe-coding on.
The Trevor Project — where Adam&#39;s thirty dollars from Infisical went.
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/272-let-me-prompt-that-for-you/

272: Let Me Prompt That For You

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Uncle Bob wrote the book on clean code, and the whole argument rests on one number: you read code ten times for every time you write it, so you&#39;d better make it readable. His agents write it now, and he doesn&#39;t read a line. This week we discuss who clean code is for now that machines are the ones reading it.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcLPGC-tvgk" rel="nofollow">Uncle Bob on Software Fundamentals in the Age of AI</a> — the Matt Pocock interview the whole episode is a reaction to. Yes, he&#39;s in a bathrobe.</li><li><a href="https://infisical.com/" rel="nofollow">Infisical</a> — where Adam moved his secrets after a long-running agent read his <code>.env</code> and cheerfully told him so.</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/271-slop-is-the-new-clean/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

Uncle Bob wrote the book on clean code, and the whole argument rests on one number: you read code ten times for every time you write it, so you&#39;d better make it readable. His agents write it now, and he doesn&#39;t read a line. This week we discuss who clean code is for now that machines are the ones reading it.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Uncle Bob on Software Fundamentals in the Age of AI — the Matt Pocock interview the whole episode is a reaction to. Yes, he&#39;s in a bathrobe.
Infisical — where Adam moved his secrets after a long-running agent read his .env and cheerfully told him so.
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/271-slop-is-the-new-clean/

271: Slop Is the New Clean

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We&#39;re back after a week off and we have some things to get off our chest. Carol&#39;s agent doesn&#39;t understand auth, Ben explores the nature of performative coding, Adam agreed that meetings are for decisions, then spent two hours writing an email to prove it, and Tim&#39;s AI is better than yours. This week we have a grab bag of hot takes and hot takes on hot takes.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://taffy.io/" rel="nofollow">Taffy</a> — Adam&#39;s CFML REST framework, the counterexample of a public repo whose product is the API, not the source</li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@subwaytakes" rel="nofollow">Subway Takes</a> — the 100% agree / 100% disagree format the table falls into mid-meeting-takes</li><li><a href="https://adamtuttle.codes/blog/2026/getting-my-shit-together-dotfiles-brewfile-1password-ssh-agent/" rel="nofollow">Adam&#39;s dotfiles blog post</a> — the git bare repo trick for tracking a gitignored personal CLAUDE.md, promised on air</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/270-hot-takes-on-hot-takes/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

We&#39;re back after a week off and we have some things to get off our chest. Carol&#39;s agent doesn&#39;t understand auth, Ben explores the nature of performative coding, Adam agreed that meetings are for decisions, then spent two hours writing an email to prove it, and Tim&#39;s AI is better than yours. This week we have a grab bag of hot takes and hot takes on hot takes.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Taffy — Adam&#39;s CFML REST framework, the counterexample of a public repo whose product is the API, not the source
Subway Takes — the 100% agree / 100% disagree format the table falls into mid-meeting-takes
Adam&#39;s dotfiles blog post — the git bare repo trick for tracking a gitignored personal CLAUDE.md, promised on air
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/270-hot-takes-on-hot-takes/

270: Hot Takes on Hot Takes

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Worrying about AI is the easy part. Everyone already has a list. The interesting part is what lands on it, what doesn&#39;t, and why. From military use, to an AI slop takeover, to the possibility that the tools are making us stupider.This week, the hosts respond to a question from the State of Devs survey: “Which of these general AI risks and issues are you most concerned about?”Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://survey.devographics.com/en-US/survey/state-of-devs/2025" rel="nofollow">State of Devs 2025 survey</a> — the questions that set off the discussion; the survey itself is now closed</li><li><a href="https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-model-evaluation-security-incident/" rel="nofollow">OpenAI&#39;s Hugging Face security incident</a> — what happened when agents escaped a constrained cyber evaluation</li><li><a href="https://news.linkedin.com/2026/keeping-conversations-real-on-linkedin" rel="nofollow">LinkedIn&#39;s campaign against AI slop</a> — the official explanation of its new reporting control</li><li><a href="https://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-pay-per-crawl/" rel="nofollow">Cloudflare Pay Per Crawl</a> — tools for publishers to allow, block, or charge AI crawlers</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/269-the-ai-anxiety-draft" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

Worrying about AI is the easy part. Everyone already has a list. The interesting part is what lands on it, what doesn&#39;t, and why. From military use, to an AI slop takeover, to the possibility that the tools are making us stupider.

This week, the hosts respond to a question from the State of Devs survey: “Which of these general AI risks and issues are you most concerned about?”

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

State of Devs 2025 survey — the questions that set off the discussion; the survey itself is now closed
OpenAI&#39;s Hugging Face security incident — what happened when agents escaped a constrained cyber evaluation
LinkedIn&#39;s campaign against AI slop — the official explanation of its new reporting control
Cloudflare Pay Per Crawl — tools for publishers to allow, block, or charge AI crawlers
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/269-the-ai-anxiety-draft

269: The AI Anxiety Draft

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Nobody went to conferences for the talks. You went for the hallway, and for a roomful of people who&#39;d made the same odd career bet you had. We didn&#39;t know how good we had it. COVID hit, AI is now everyone&#39;s best buddy, and now all these meetups and spaces are slowly disappearing. This week the hosts go looking for what&#39;s left of the developer hang.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://www.anthropic.com/research/project-vend-1" rel="nofollow">Anthropic&#39;s Project Vend</a> — the AI-run shop behind the tungsten cube story</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/268-nobody-wants-to-meet-up-anymore/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

Nobody went to conferences for the talks. You went for the hallway, and for a roomful of people who&#39;d made the same odd career bet you had. We didn&#39;t know how good we had it. COVID hit, AI is now everyone&#39;s best buddy, and now all these meetups and spaces are slowly disappearing. This week the hosts go looking for what&#39;s left of the developer hang.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Anthropic&#39;s Project Vend — the AI-run shop behind the tungsten cube story
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/268-nobody-wants-to-meet-up-anymore/

268: Nobody Wants to Meet Up Anymore

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Tim is trying to hire remote developers, but the interviews have started to feel like one long CAPTCHA. Before he can decide who&#39;s right for the job, he has to figure out whether he&#39;s interviewing the candidate or ChatGPT. This week the hosts discuss the state of remote developer interviews in the AI era.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://mostlytechnical.com/episodes/29-super-epic-crazy-with-adam-wathan" rel="nofollow">Mostly Technical #29: “Super Epic Crazy”</a> — the source of the cover-letter story about most applicants missing simple instructions</li><li><a href="https://english.elpais.com/education/2026-06-28/ai-fraud-at-brown-university-academic-integrity-is-at-risk.html" rel="nofollow">Roberto Serrano on AI fraud at Brown University</a> — the course whose take-home exams triggered the in-class-final story</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/267-prove-you-are-human/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

Tim is trying to hire remote developers, but the interviews have started to feel like one long CAPTCHA. Before he can decide who&#39;s right for the job, he has to figure out whether he&#39;s interviewing the candidate or ChatGPT. This week the hosts discuss the state of remote developer interviews in the AI era.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Mostly Technical #29: “Super Epic Crazy” — the source of the cover-letter story about most applicants missing simple instructions
Roberto Serrano on AI fraud at Brown University — the course whose take-home exams triggered the in-class-final story
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/267-prove-you-are-human/

267: Prove You Are Human

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They say history doesn&#39;t repeat itself, it rhymes, and apparently so do show topics. A year on from our episode on the value of friction, the crew are back to discuss value of struggle. The question this time: now that AI will cheerfully do the hard part for you, which struggles are worth keeping, and which you can finally hand off?Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://www.harvardmagazine.com/commencement/class-day-ronny-chieng-harvard" rel="nofollow">Ronny Chieng&#39;s Harvard Class Day speech</a> — the &#34;your generation&#39;s job is to kill AI&#34; address.</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/266-strugglemaxing/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

They say history doesn&#39;t repeat itself, it rhymes, and apparently so do show topics. A year on from our episode on the value of friction, the crew are back to discuss value of struggle. The question this time: now that AI will cheerfully do the hard part for you, which struggles are worth keeping, and which you can finally hand off?

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Ronny Chieng&#39;s Harvard Class Day speech — the &#34;your generation&#39;s job is to kill AI&#34; address.
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/266-strugglemaxing/

266: Strugglemaxing

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Eighteen weeks ago Adam handed his decade-old ORM layer to an AI agent. This week he kills the whole refactor — and the feeling that comes isn&#39;t regret, it&#39;s relief. Somewhere in the grind he realized he&#39;d only ever weighed two options, push through or admit defeat, and both assumed he had to see it to the end. This week is about sunk cost — how being partway down a road can convince you that you owe it the rest of the way, and how freeing it is to decide you don&#39;t.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/249-10-years-of-tech-debt/" rel="nofollow">249: 10 Years of Tech Debt</a> — where Adam first handed the ORM layer to an agent</li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/265-knowing-when-to-stop/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

Eighteen weeks ago Adam handed his decade-old ORM layer to an AI agent. This week he kills the whole refactor — and the feeling that comes isn&#39;t regret, it&#39;s relief. Somewhere in the grind he realized he&#39;d only ever weighed two options, push through or admit defeat, and both assumed he had to see it to the end. This week is about sunk cost — how being partway down a road can convince you that you owe it the rest of the way, and how freeing it is to decide you don&#39;t.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

249: 10 Years of Tech Debt — where Adam first handed the ORM layer to an agent
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/265-knowing-when-to-stop/

265: Knowing When to Stop

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The promise was that AI would take the grunt work off your plate and leave you the good stuff. This week is the part no one advertised: you got into this to make things — but what comes instead is the restless guilt of sitting there with nothing to do while the agent works, and the slow realization that when it finishes, the job left for you is mostly reviewing.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://xkcd.com/303/" rel="nofollow">xkcd: &#34;Compiling&#34;</a></li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/264-look-busy-claudes-working/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

The promise was that AI would take the grunt work off your plate and leave you the good stuff. This week is the part no one advertised: you got into this to make things — but what comes instead is the restless guilt of sitting there with nothing to do while the agent works, and the slow realization that when it finishes, the job left for you is mostly reviewing.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

xkcd: &#34;Compiling&#34;
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/264-look-busy-claudes-working/

264: Look Busy, Claude's Working

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Getting unstuck has gotten so cheap that Ben can&#39;t remember the last time he actually learned something at work — and the struggle he&#39;s skipping was where knowing the code, and caring about it, used to come from. This week is a conversation about what software craftsmanship even means anymore, when the tools are happy to do the caring for you.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/263-intimacy-with-the-code/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

Getting unstuck has gotten so cheap that Ben can&#39;t remember the last time he actually learned something at work — and the struggle he&#39;s skipping was where knowing the code, and caring about it, used to come from. This week is a conversation about what software craftsmanship even means anymore, when the tools are happy to do the caring for you.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/263-intimacy-with-the-code/

263: Intimacy with the Code

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This week is the quiet worry underneath all the productivity gains: that every time you hand the boring work to a machine, you&#39;re handing over a little of the curiosity that made you good at the work you care about, until one day the well of ideas just runs dry.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://taffy.io/" rel="nofollow">Taffy</a> — the REST framework for ColdFusion and Lucee</li><li><a href="https://restassuredbook.com/" rel="nofollow">Rest Assured</a> by Adam Tuttle</li><li><a href="https://www.postman.com/" rel="nofollow">Postman</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@EngineeringExplained" rel="nofollow">Engineering Explained</a></li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/262-zen-and-the-art-of-ai-driven-maintenance/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

This week is the quiet worry underneath all the productivity gains: that every time you hand the boring work to a machine, you&#39;re handing over a little of the curiosity that made you good at the work you care about, until one day the well of ideas just runs dry.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Taffy — the REST framework for ColdFusion and Lucee
Rest Assured by Adam Tuttle
Postman
Engineering Explained
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/262-zen-and-the-art-of-ai-driven-maintenance/

262: Zen and the Art of AI-Driven Maintenance

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Adam trained an AI on twenty years of Ben&#39;s blog, then asked Ben to pick his own words out of a lineup of forgeries. This week the hosts play a game of Ben or Bot, and you can play along too!Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://workingcode.dev/AIBen" rel="nofollow">Play &#34;Ben&#39;s Blog or AI?&#34; yourself</a></li><li><a href="https://pragprog.com/titles/tpp20/the-pragmatic-programmer-20th-anniversary-edition/" rel="nofollow">The Pragmatic Programmer: From Journeyman to Master</a></li><li><a href="https://www.domainlanguage.com/ddd/" rel="nofollow">Domain-Driven Design</a> by Eric Evans</li><li><a href="https://masstransit.io/" rel="nofollow">MassTransit</a></li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/261-the-ben-turing-test/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

Adam trained an AI on twenty years of Ben&#39;s blog, then asked Ben to pick his own words out of a lineup of forgeries. This week the hosts play a game of Ben or Bot, and you can play along too!

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Play &#34;Ben&#39;s Blog or AI?&#34; yourself
The Pragmatic Programmer: From Journeyman to Master
Domain-Driven Design by Eric Evans
MassTransit
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/261-the-ben-turing-test/

261: The Ben Turing Test

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What&#39;s the point of a personal wiki when AI agents have already read the entire internet? This week is about patterns for co-maintaining a personal wiki with an AI agent, and where its job ends and yours begins.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://gist.github.com/karpathy/442a6bf555914893e9891c11519de94f" rel="nofollow">Karpathy&#39;s LLM Wiki gist</a></li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/260-reinventing-the-wiki/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

What&#39;s the point of a personal wiki when AI agents have already read the entire internet? This week is about patterns for co-maintaining a personal wiki with an AI agent, and where its job ends and yours begins.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Karpathy&#39;s LLM Wiki gist
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/260-reinventing-the-wiki/

260: Reinventing the Wiki

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This week is a philosophical conversation about what you let into your head — the podcasts, the influencers, the political figures, the friends — and the difference between a snapshot you can hold at arm&#39;s length and a living relationship you&#39;re quietly being shaped by.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQkmJI63ykI" rel="nofollow">Fritz Haber (YouTube)</a></li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/259-walling-off-your-mental-garden/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

This week is a philosophical conversation about what you let into your head — the podcasts, the influencers, the political figures, the friends — and the difference between a snapshot you can hold at arm&#39;s length and a living relationship you&#39;re quietly being shaped by.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Fritz Haber (YouTube)
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/259-walling-off-your-mental-garden/

259: Walling Off Your Mental Garden

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Adam wrote a blog post this week about why AI keeps making him feel worse. This week is an honest conversation about the hypocrite&#39;s bind: needing to use the thing you recognize the harm of, and what that does to you.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.Mentioned in this episode:<ul><li>Adam&#39;s blog post: <a href="https://adamtuttle.codes/blog/2026/on-the-ai-of-it-all/" rel="nofollow">&#34;On the AI of It All&#34;</a></li><li><a href="https://impeccable.style/" rel="nofollow">Impeccable Style</a></li><li><a href="https://getmentalnotes.com/" rel="nofollow">Mental Notes</a></li></ul>With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/258-on-the-ai-of-it-all/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

Adam wrote a blog post this week about why AI keeps making him feel worse. This week is an honest conversation about the hypocrite&#39;s bind: needing to use the thing you recognize the harm of, and what that does to you.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

Mentioned in this episode:

Adam&#39;s blog post: &#34;On the AI of It All&#34;
Impeccable Style
Mental Notes
With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/258-on-the-ai-of-it-all/

258: On the AI of It All

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&#34;We have solved all of the world&#39;s problems.&#34; Observability past the point where more logs stop helping, continuous deployment when the customer is the federal government and the change-management board is a real room with real people in it, JSON&#39;s loose schema as a load-bearing feature rather than a quirk to apologise for, and the awkward question of who actually owns the code you wrote on a work-issued machine.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/257-we-solved-everything/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

&#34;We have solved all of the world&#39;s problems.&#34; Observability past the point where more logs stop helping, continuous deployment when the customer is the federal government and the change-management board is a real room with real people in it, JSON&#39;s loose schema as a load-bearing feature rather than a quirk to apologise for, and the awkward question of who actually owns the code you wrote on a work-issued machine.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here: https://workingcode.dev/episodes/257-we-solved-everything/

257: We Solved Everything

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It&#39;s 11:30 PM and you&#39;re still prompting. The code is better than anything you&#39;d have shipped a year ago. The output is prolific, the roadmap is moving, the tooling is miraculous. So why are you still here at 11:30 PM? This week is an honest conversation about the strange shape of burnout in the AI era — the productivity that keeps compounding, the bar that keeps rising right along with it, and the quiet feeling that somewhere in the last year the craft stopped feeling quite like yours.Follow the show and be sure to <a href="https://workingcode.dev/discord/" rel="nofollow">join the discussion on Discord</a>! Our website is <a href="https://workingcode.dev/" rel="nofollow">workingcode.dev</a> and we&#39;re <a href="https://bsky.app/profile/workingcode.dev" rel="nofollow">@workingcode.dev on Bluesky</a>. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, <a href="https://www.patreon.com/workingcodepod" rel="nofollow">support us on Patreon</a>.With audio editing and engineering by <a href="https://www.zcross.media/" rel="nofollow">ZCross Media</a>.Full show notes and transcript <a href="https://workingcode.dev/episodes/256-the-productivity-trap/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.

It&#39;s 11:30 PM and you&#39;re still prompting. The code is better than anything you&#39;d have shipped a year ago. The output is prolific, the roadmap is moving, the tooling is miraculous. So why are you still here at 11:30 PM? This week is an honest conversation about the strange shape of burnout in the AI era — the productivity that keeps compounding, the bar that keeps rising right along with it, and the quiet feeling that somewhere in the last year the craft stopped feeling quite like yours.

Follow the show and be sure to join the discussion on Discord! Our website is workingcode.dev and we&#39;re @workingcode.dev on Bluesky. New episodes drop weekly on Thursday.

And, if you&#39;re feeling the love, support us on Patreon.

With audio editing and engineering by ZCross Media.

Full show notes and transcript here:
https://workingcode.dev/episodes/256-the-productivity-trap/

256: The Productivity Trap: How Optimizing Everything Broke Us

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Working Code is a technology podcast unlike all others. Instead of diving deep into specific technologies to learn them better, or focusing on soft-skills, this one is like hanging out together at the water cooler or in the hallway at a technical conference. Working Code celebrates the triumphs and fails of working as a developer, and aims to make your career in coding more enjoyable.