543 - What If Charging $41 For Pho Is The Key To Respecting Vietnamese Heritage? - Mr. Gao Viet
1h 3m | Oct 5, 2026How does a former boat refugee who lived in a jungle refugee camp for three years end up redefining premium Vietnamese dining in San Francisco?
In this episode, Ken sits down in San Francisco with Viet (Mr. Gao), owner of Mr. Gao and Venticello/Ventre. Known across social media for his bold personality, luxury dishes, and $41 bowl of Phở, Viet opens up about the deeply personal backstory he rarely shares publicly.
Viet breaks down his family’s journey leaving Vietnam in 1990 after 10 failed attempts, surviving three years in Indonesia’s Galang refugee camp selling bánh mì at age 12, arriving in San Francisco's Tenderloin neighborhood to live with five family members in a tiny studio, and aggressively cold-calling his way into a successful career as a financial advisor before buying his first restaurant on a whim.
Inside the Episode:
Leaving Vietnam in 1990: Surviving 10 failed escape attempts, a three-day boat journey without food or water, and three years in Galang Refugee Camp.
Arriving in the Tenderloin: The reality check of moving to a tiny San Francisco studio apartment with five family members and sleeping on a couch for seven years.
From Finance to Food: Cold-calling 10 hours a day as a young financial advisor without fluent English, earning a signing bonus, and buying his first restaurant on Grand Avenue.
The Business of $41 Phở: Breaking down food costs, 24-hour bone broths, rejecting the "cheap food" stereotype, and elevating Vietnamese cuisine to Italian/Japanese pricing.
Managing Expectations: How early life lessons shaped his philosophy on authentic social media, realistic food presentation, and never cheating the customer.
Connect & Follow:
Guest: Viet / Mr. Gao (@mr.gaoviet)
The Vietnamese Podcast: Instagram / TikTok @thevietnamesepodcast
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