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This week’s guest is the amazing Rabbi Brad Hirschfield and part 2 of our conversion. Listed for many years in Newsweek as one of America’s “50 Most Influential Rabbis,” and recognized as one of our nation’s leading “Preachers & Teachers,” by Beliefnet.com, Fox News regular contributor, Washington Post blogger, and think tank President Brad Hirschfield is the author of You Don’t Have To Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism (Harmony, 2008). He also conceived and hosted two groundbreaking series for Bridges TV—American Muslim TV Network, Building Bridges: Abrahamic Perspectives on the World Today (three seasons), and American Pilgrimage. He is also the Co-founder and Executive Editor of The Wisdom Daily.

An expert on religion and public life, Hirschfield offers a unique perspective on the American spiritual landscape and political and social trends to audiences nationwide. A regular on Lou Dobbs Tonight on the Fox Business Network, and The Washington Post’s Conversations: Live Q & A, he’s been a contributor on ethical issues for Tru-TV, co-hosted the weekly radio show Hirschfield and Kula and is frequently quoted in the press. A popular guest on such shows as The Dennis Miller Show, Lars Larson, and Fox News.com Live, he has appeared on CNN, PBS, MTV and NPR, among others, and was featured on PBS’s “Frontline: Faith and Doubt at Ground Zero,” and the acclaimed documentary, Freaks Like Me. A regular commentator for The Huffington Post and one of Patheos.com’s Experts, he contributes frequently to Fox News Opinion, writes a column, For God’s Sake, for the WashingtonPost.com’s “On Faith.” His blog, Windows & Doors, appears on Beliefnet.com (the net’s largest site for spirituality and inspiration), and was featured on the homepage of Digg.com.

Rabbi Hirschfield is also an interfaith activist, he has inspired audiences from the Aspen Institute and the Washington National Cathedral, to the Islamic Society of North America and many leading universities and religious institutions. A featured speaker at Parliament of the World’s Religions in both Barcelona and Melbourne, he was recently invited by the Governments of the United States and the Republic of Indonesia to speak at the Jakarta Interfaith Dialogue

Guest (select) publications: You Don’t Have to Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.clal.org 

Twitter: @BradHirschfield 

Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Twitter: @clay_k

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic  

Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! 

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week’s guest is the amazing Rabbi Brad Hirschfield! Listed for many years in Newsweek as one of America’s “50 Most Influential Rabbis,” and recognized as one of our nation’s leading “Preachers & Teachers,” by Beliefnet.com, Fox News regular contributor, Washington Post blogger, and think tank President Brad Hirschfield is the author of You Don’t Have To Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism (Harmony, 2008). He also conceived and hosted two groundbreaking series for Bridges TV—American Muslim TV Network, Building Bridges: Abrahamic Perspectives on the World Today (three seasons), and American Pilgrimage. He is also the Co-founder and Executive Editor of The Wisdom Daily.

An expert on religion and public life, Hirschfield offers a unique perspective on the American spiritual landscape and political and social trends to audiences nationwide. A regular on Lou Dobbs Tonight on the Fox Business Network, and The Washington Post’s Conversations: Live Q & A, he’s been a contributor on ethical issues for Tru-TV, co-hosted the weekly radio show Hirschfield and Kula and is frequently quoted in the press. A popular guest on such shows as The Dennis Miller Show, Lars Larson, and Fox News.com Live, he has appeared on CNN, PBS, MTV and NPR, among others, and was featured on PBS’s “Frontline: Faith and Doubt at Ground Zero,” and the acclaimed documentary, Freaks Like Me. A regular commentator for The Huffington Post and one of Patheos.com’s Experts, he contributes frequently to Fox News Opinion, writes a column, For God’s Sake, for the WashingtonPost.com’s “On Faith.” His blog, Windows & Doors, appears on Beliefnet.com (the net’s largest site for spirituality and inspiration), and was featured on the homepage of Digg.com.

Rabbi Hirschfield is also an interfaith activist, he has inspired audiences from the Aspen Institute and the Washington National Cathedral, to the Islamic Society of North America and many leading universities and religious institutions. A featured speaker at Parliament of the World’s Religions in both Barcelona and Melbourne, he was recently invited by the Governments of the United States and the Republic of Indonesia to speak at the Jakarta Interfaith Dialogue

Guest (select) publications: You Don’t Have to Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.clal.org 

Twitter: @BradHirschfield 

Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Twitter: @clay_k

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic  

Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct50 for 50% off PLUS free shipping! 

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

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This week’s guest is Dr. Chris Hoklotubbe! Chris serves as both an assistant professor of Classics at Cornell College in Mount Vernon, Iowa, in his capacity of teaching courses on Christianity and world religions , and as director of graduate studies for NAIITS: An Indigenous learning community. 

Dr. Hoklotubbe (Choctaw) teaches courses on the intersection of race, gender, and sexuality in the Christian Tradition, the New Testament, Roman Religion, Native American Spiritualities, World Religions, and Religion and American Politics. He also co-leads interdisciplinary off-campus courses that explore the theme of pilgrimage along "El Camino de Santiago" in Northern Spain (Summer 2021, with Spanish), the topics of ancient philosophy, religion, politics, and archaeology in Greece and Turkey (Spring 2021, with Classics), and the history, art, and culture of North American Indigenous tribes (coming 2022-23, with Art History). His book, “Civilized Piety: The Rhetoric of Pietas in the Pastoral Epistles and the Roman Empire” (Baylor University Press, 2017), brings together his research interests in early Christianity, Greco-Roman archaeology, ancient philosophy, and critical theory. Hoklotubbe has also written on Native American interpretations of the Bible and the concept of "Docetism" in Early Christian studies. He continues to research and write on the Pastoral Epistles and Native American interpretations of the Bible. He’s currently co-writing a book on Indigenous Interpretations of the Bible with Cree First Nations New Testament scholar, Daniel Zacharias, which will be published with InterVarsity Press. 

Guest (select) publications: Civilized Piety: The Rhetoric of Pietas in the Pastoral Epistles and the Roman Empire” (Baylor University Press, 2017)

Guest Website/Social Media: 

Twitter: @DocHoklo 

NAIITS: A Learning Community: www.naiits.com 

Eloheh an Indigenous centyer for Earth Justice: www.eloheh.org 

Good Medicine Way: https://gmwgathering.org

Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Twitter: @clay_k

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic  

Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct16 for 16 FREE meals PLUS free shipping! 

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week’s guest is Dr. Chris Hoklotubbe! Chris serves as both an assistant professor of Classics at Cornell College in Mount Vernon, Iowa, in his capacity of teaching courses on Christianity and world religions , and as director of graduate studies for NAIITS: An Indigenous learning community. 

Dr. Hoklotubbe (Choctaw) teaches courses on the intersection of race, gender, and sexuality in the Christian Tradition, the New Testament, Roman Religion, Native American Spiritualities, World Religions, and Religion and American Politics. He also co-leads interdisciplinary off-campus courses that explore the theme of pilgrimage along "El Camino de Santiago" in Northern Spain (Summer 2021, with Spanish), the topics of ancient philosophy, religion, politics, and archaeology in Greece and Turkey (Spring 2021, with Classics), and the history, art, and culture of North American Indigenous tribes (coming 2022-23, with Art History). His book, “Civilized Piety: The Rhetoric of Pietas in the Pastoral Epistles and the Roman Empire” (Baylor University Press, 2017), brings together his research interests in early Christianity, Greco-Roman archaeology, ancient philosophy, and critical theory. Hoklotubbe has also written on Native American interpretations of the Bible and the concept of "Docetism" in Early Christian studies. He continues to research and write on the Pastoral Epistles and Native American interpretations of the Bible. He’s currently co-writing a book on Indigenous Interpretations of the Bible with Cree First Nations New Testament scholar, Daniel Zacharias, which will be published with InterVarsity Press. 

Guest (select) publications: Civilized Piety: The Rhetoric of Pietas in the Pastoral Epistles and the Roman Empire” (Baylor University Press, 2017)

Guest Website/Social Media: 

Twitter: @DocHoklo 

NAIITS: A Learning Community: www.naiits.com 

Eloheh an Indigenous centyer for Earth Justice: www.eloheh.org 

Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Twitter: @clay_k

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic 

Songs featured on this episode were from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct16 for 16 FREE meals PLUS free shipping! 

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

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Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

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Guest Bio: Thomas Jay Oord is a theologian, philosopher, and scholar of multi-disciplinary studies. He is an award-winning author, and he has written or edited more than twenty books. Oord has won the Outstanding Faculty Award twelve times as professor of Northwest Nazarene University, Nampa, Idaho. Oord is known for his contributions to research on love, relational theology, science and religion, and Wesleyan/Holiness/Church of the Nazarene thought.

(Select) Guest Publications: The Nature of Love: A Theology; The Uncontrolling Love of God: An Open and Relational Account of Providence; God Can't: How to Believe in God and Love After Tragedy, Abuse, and Other Evils; and God Can't Q&A. Pluriform Love: An Open and Relational Theology of Well-Being; The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence."

Guest Links:

www.thomasjayoord.com

Twitter: @thomasjayoord

Theme music by Forrest Clay. Check out the Recover EP anywhere good music is sold.

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The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson.

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This week’s guest is Dr. Jodi Magness. Jodi is the Kenan Distinguished Professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. She is a Classical and Biblical archaeologist specializing in ancient Palestine (modern Israel, Jordan, and the Palestinian territories) from the time of Jesus up to the tenth century. Her research interests include Jerusalem, Qumran and the Dead Sea Scrolls, ancient synagogues, Masada, the Roman army in the East, ancient pottery, the Byzantine-early Islamic transition, and Diaspora Judaism in the Roman world. IShe has participated on over 20 excavations in Israel and in Greece, including co-directing the 1995 excavations in the Roman siege works at Masada. Since 2011, she has directed excavations at Huqoq in Israel’s Galilee, which are bringing to light a monumental Late Roman (fifth century) synagogue paved with stunning mosaics (for more information visit: Huqoq.

Jodi is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and Past President of the Archaeological Institute of America.

Guest (selected) Publications: Her most recent books are Masada: From Jewish Revolt to Modern Myth (2019) and The Archaeology of Qumran and the Dead Sea Scrolls (2nd edition 2021). I am currently writing a book on Jerusalem Through the Ages (under contract with Oxford University Press).

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.jodimagness.org 

Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Twitter: @clay_k

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic 

Songs featured on this episode were: “Does God” and “This Water I am Treading” from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct16 for 16 FREE meals PLUS free shipping! 

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

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Website by Ryan Battles

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week’s guest is Dr. Jodi Magness. Jodi is the Kenan Distinguished Professor at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. She is a Classical and Biblical archaeologist specializing in ancient Palestine (modern Israel, Jordan, and the Palestinian territories) from the time of Jesus up to the tenth century. Her research interests include Jerusalem, Qumran and the Dead Sea Scrolls, ancient synagogues, Masada, the Roman army in the East, ancient pottery, the Byzantine-early Islamic transition, and Diaspora Judaism in the Roman world. IShe has participated on over 20 excavations in Israel and in Greece, including co-directing the 1995 excavations in the Roman siege works at Masada. Since 2011, she has directed excavations at Huqoq in Israel’s Galilee, which are bringing to light a monumental Late Roman (fifth century) synagogue paved with stunning mosaics (for more information visit: Huqoq.

Jodi is a member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and Past President of the Archaeological Institute of America.

Guest (selected) Publications: Her most recent books are Masada: From Jewish Revolt to Modern Myth (2019) and The Archaeology of Qumran and the Dead Sea Scrolls (2nd edition 2021). I am currently writing a book on Jerusalem Through the Ages (under contract with Oxford University Press).

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.jodimagness.org 

Special Theme Music by: Forrest Clay

Instagram: @forrestclaymusic 

Twitter: @clay_k

YouTube: www.youtube.com/claykmusic 

Songs featured on this episode were: “Does God” and “This Water I am Treading” from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh - America’s #1 meal kit! My daughter and I swear by it and have our favorite recipes that we make together every week! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct16 for 16 FREE meals PLUS free shipping! 

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week I had the chance to talk one of my favorite scholars, Dr. Dan O. McClellan in part 2 of 2 episodes. Dan received is bachelor’s degree from Brigham Young University in ancient Near Eastern Studies, where he focused on Biblical Hebrew and minored in Classical Greek. He completed his master of studies in Jewish studies at the University of Oxford in July of 2010 and his mater of arts in biblical studies in 2013 at Trinity Western University. In early 2020, he defended his doctoral dissertation written for the University of Exeter on the cognitive science of religion and the conceptualization of deity and divine agency in the Hebrew Bible. He later worked as a scripture translation supervisor for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in Salt Lake City from 2013-2023, and has occasionally taught courses at Brigham Young University as an adjunct professor. 

Dan’s areas of specialization are Second Temple Judaism, early Israelite religion, textual criticism of the Hebrew Bible, early christology, the cognitive science of religion, cognitive linguistics, and religious identity. 

Check out Dan’s social media channels and his new podcast, Data Over Dogma 

Guest (selected) Publications: YHWH’s Divine Images 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.inktr.ee/maklelan 

www.maklelan.org 

www.danielomcclellan.wordpress.com 

YouTube: @maklelan 

Instagram: @maklelan 

Twitter: @maklelan 

Special Music by: Forrest Clay from the Recover EP

You can find Clay’s music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson

This episode is sponsored by Hello Fresh! Go to www.hellofresh.com/deconstruct16 and use the code deconstruct16 or 16 FREE meals plus free shipping!

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week I had the chance to talk one of my favorite scholars, Dr. Dan O. McClellan in part 1 of 2 episodes. Dan received is bachelor’s degree from Brigham Young University in ancient Near Eastern Studies, where he focused on Biblical Hebrew and minored in Classical Greek. He completed his master of studies in Jewish studies at the University of Oxford in July of 2010 and his mater of arts in biblical studies in 2013 at Trinity Western University. In early 2020, he defended his doctoral dissertation written for the University of Exeter on the cognitive science of religion and the conceptualization of deity and divine agency in the Hebrew Bible. He later worked as a scripture translation supervisor for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in Salt Lake City from 2013-2023, and has occasionally taught courses at Brigham Young University as an adjunct professor. 

Dan’s areas of specialization are Second Temple Judaism, early Israelite religion, textual criticism of the Hebrew Bible, early christology, the cognitive science of religion, cognitive linguistics, and religious identity. 

Check out Dan’s social media channels and his new podcast, Data Over Dogma 

Guest (selected) Publications: YHWH’s Divine Images 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.inktr.ee/maklelan 

www.maklelan.org 

www.danielomcclellan.wordpress.com 

YouTube: @maklelan 

Instagram: @maklelan 

Twitter: @maklelan 

Theme Music by: Forrest Clay off the Recover EP

You can find Clay's music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

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Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

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Guest Info/Bio:

This week I had the chance to talk one of my favorite scholars, Dr. Stephen Prothero. Stephen Prothero is the C. Allyn and Elizabeth V. Russell Professor of Religion in America in the Department of Religion at Boston University. He is the author of numerous books including Religion Matters: An Introduction to the World’s Religions (W.W. Norton 2020), Why Liberals Win the Culture Wars (HarperOne, 2016), God Is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions that Run the World—and Why Their Differences Matter (HarperOne, 2010), and the New York Times bestseller Religious Literacy: What Every American Needs to Know—and Doesn’t (HarperOne, 2007). His books have been published on five continents and translated into eight languages.

Prothero has commented on religion on hundreds of National Public Radio programs, and on television on CNN, MSNBC, FOX, PBS, and all the major networks. He was also a guest on "The Daily Show" with Jon Stewart, "The Colbert Report," and "The Oprah Winfrey Show." A regular contributor to the Wall Street Journal and USA Today, he has written for the New York Times, Slate, Salon, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, and the Boston Globe.

Prothero was the chief academic adviser for the critically acclaimed six-hour WGBH-TV series, "God in America." He also worked as a Senior Fellow at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History, and as the chief outside writer for CNN's "Belief Blog." He received his BA from Yale in American Studies and his PhD in the Study of Religion from Harvard. He lives on Cape Cod, and he tweets @sprothero.

Guest (selected) Publications: American Jesus: How the Son of God became a National Icon; Religious Literacy: What Every American Needs To Know - And Doesn’t; God Is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions That Run The World; The American Bible: How Our Words Unite, Divide, and Define A Nation; God The Best Seller: How One Editor Transformed American Religion A Book At A Time. 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.stephenprothero.com 

Twitter: @sprothero 

Special Music by: Jayne Sugg

https://jaynesugg.com 

www.linktr.ee/jaynesugg 

Instagram: @seejayne 

Songs featured on this episode were: “It’s So Dark” and “Can You Love Me?” from the It’s So Dark EP. 

You can find Jayne's music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

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Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

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This week we wrap up our conversation with friend of the pod, Dr. Pete Enns! Dr. Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is Abram S. Clemens professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, PA. He has taught courses at several other institutions including Harvard University, Fuller Theological Seminary, and Princeton Theological Seminary. Dr. Enns is a biblical scholar, theologian, and author who has written on topics like hermeneutics, the relationship between science and religion, Christianity and evolution, and Old Testament interpretation. He is also a contributor to the Huffington Post and Patheos and a regular blogger at www.peteenns.com as well as being co-host of the Bible/Faith for Normal People podcast.

(Selected) Guest Publications: The Bible Tells me so…; Inspiration and Incarnation; The Evolution of Adam; Telling God’s Story; The Sin of Certainty; How the Bible Really Works*; and more… ; Curveball: When Your Faith Takes Turns You Never Saw Coming...*or How I Stumbled and Tripped My Way to Finding a Bigger God.

Guest Social Media:

www.peteenns.com

Twitter: @peteenns

Facebook: @PeteEnnsAuthor

Check out Pete’s podcast The Bible For Normal People anywhere you find your podcasts! It’s terrific! We listen to it, and so should you!

Them music by Forrest Clay. You can find his music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found.

This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson.

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family!

Website by Ryan Battles

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T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

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This week we kick off our 2023 scripture series with friend of the pod, Dr. Pete Enns! Dr. Enns (PhD, Harvard University) is Abram S. Clemens professor of Biblical Studies at Eastern University, St. Davids, PA. He has taught courses at several other institutions including Harvard University, Fuller Theological Seminary, and Princeton Theological Seminary. Dr. Enns is a biblical scholar, theologian, and author who has written on topics like hermeneutics, the relationship between science and religion, Christianity and evolution, and Old Testament interpretation. He is also a contributor to the Huffington Post and Patheos and a regular blogger at www.peteenns.com as well as being co-host of the Bible/Faith for Normal People podcast.

(Selected) Guest Publications: The Bible Tells me so…; Inspiration and Incarnation; The Evolution of Adam; Telling God’s Story; The Sin of Certainty; How the Bible Really Works*; and more… ; Curveball: When Your Faith Takes Turns You Never Saw Coming...*or How I Stumbled and Tripped My Way to Finding a Bigger God.

Guest Social Media:

www.peteenns.com

Twitter: @peteenns

Facebook: @PeteEnnsAuthor

Check out Pete’s podcast The Bible For Normal People anywhere you find your podcasts! It’s terrific! We listen to it, and so should you!

Them music by Forrest Clay. You can find his music on iTunes, Spotify, Apple Music, or anywhere good music is found.

This episode of the Deconstructionist’s Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson.

Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com! Go there to read our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family!

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logo designed by Joseph Ernst

T-Shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

Our Sponsors:
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This week I talk with New York Times best-selling author, Amy Bloom. Amy just released a deeply personal memoir about her journey with her husband after it was discovered he had Alzheimers and made the decision to end life on his own terms. Grief comes in many forms and those who have had loved ones with incurable diseases that slowly rob you of your loved one is one of them. 

Amy Bloom is the author of four novels: White Houses, Lucky Us, Away, and Love Invents Us; and three collections of short stories: Where the God Of Love Hangs Out, Come to Me (finalist for the National Book Award), and A Blind Man Can See How Much I Love You (finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award). Her first book of nonfiction, Normal: Transsexual CEOs, Crossdressing Cops and Hermaphrodites with Attitudes, is a staple of university sociology and biology courses. Her most recent book is the widely acclaimed NY Times bestselling memoir, In Love. She has written for magazines such as The New Yorker, The New York Times Magazine, Vogue, Elle, The Atlantic Monthly, Slate, and Salon, and her work has been translated into fifteen languages. She is the Director of the Shapiro Center at Wesleyan University.

Guest (selected) Publications: It’s OK That You’re Not OK: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn’t Understand” 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.amybloom.com 

Facebook: @amybloombooks 

Twitter: @amybloombooks 

Theme Music by: Forrest Clay found on the EP, Recover.

You can find Forrest Clay's music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

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Welcome back for part 2 of my interview with Dr. Jacqueline Bussie. We talk more about the topic of grief and grieving and how society could do a better job of supporting those going through a loss.

Dr. Bussie is an award-winning author, professor, theologian, public speaker, and student of life in all its messy beauty. Her books include “Love without Limits (2018) and “Outlaw Christian” (2016), which won the 2017 Gold Medal Illumination Award for Christian Living. Jacqueline teaches religion, theology, and interfaith studies classes at Concordia College in Moorehead, Minnesota, where she also serves as the Director of the Forum on Faith and Life.

Guest Social Media:

www.jacquelinebussie.com

Twitter: @jacquelinebussie

Instagram: @jbussie

Facebook: @jacqueline.bussie

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was mixed, edited, and produced by John Williamson.

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

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Our second guest this season is the amazing Jacqueline Bussie! Jacqueline comes on to discuss the topic of grief for our series on grief and grieving and how her own personal experience has impacted the words she wrote years ago.

Dr. Bussie is an award-winning author, professor, theologian, public speaker, and student of life in all its messy beauty. Her books include “Love without Limits (2018) and “Outlaw Christian” (2016), which won the 2017 Gold Medal Illumination Award for Christian Living. Jacqueline teaches religion, theology, and interfaith studies classes at Concordia College in Moorehead, Minnesota, where she also serves as the Director of the Forum on Faith and Life.

Guest Social Media:

www.jacquelinebussie.com

Twitter: @jacquelinebussie

Instagram: @jbussie

Facebook: @jacqueline.bussie

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was mixed and edited by John Williamson. Special theme music by Forrest Clay.

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! Website by Ryan Battles All photos by Jared Hevron Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner.

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This week we wrap up our talk about the resurrection with Dr. Dale C. Allison. Dale C. Allison, Jr. is the Richard J. Dearborn Professor of New Testament at Princeton Theological Seminary. He earned his MA and PhD from Duke University. His academic research and publications include the historical Jesus, the Gospel of Matthew, Second Temple Judaism, and the history of the interpretation and application of biblical texts. His book, Constructing Jesus, was selected as “Best Book Relating to the New Testament” for 2009–2010 by the Biblical Archaeology Society. His most recent books are The Resurrection of Jesus: Apologetics, Polemic, History and Encountering Mystery: Religious Experience in a Secular Age. He served for several years as the main New Testament editor for de Gruyter’s international Encyclopedia of the Bible and Its Reception and has been on the editorial boards of multiple academic journals. On a more popular level, he has written books on George Harrison, religious experience, and death and what might lie beyond.

Guest (selected) Publications: Constructing Jesus; The Resurrection of Jesus: Apologetics, Polemic, History and Encountering Mystery: Religious Experience in a Secular Age

Guest Website/Social Media: 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNm0D0I5gdQ&t=102s

Theme Music by: Forrest Clay found on the EP, Recover.

You can find Forrest Clay's music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

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This week I had the chance to talk about the resurrection with Dr. Dale C. Allison. This will be the first of two parts. Dale C. Allison, Jr. is the Richard J. Dearborn Professor of New Testament at Princeton Theological Seminary. He earned his MA and PhD from Duke University. His academic research and publications include the historical Jesus, the Gospel of Matthew, Second Temple Judaism, and the history of the interpretation and application of biblical texts. His book, Constructing Jesus, was selected as “Best Book Relating to the New Testament” for 2009–2010 by the Biblical Archaeology Society. His most recent books are The Resurrection of Jesus: Apologetics, Polemic, History and Encountering Mystery: Religious Experience in a Secular Age. He served for several years as the main New Testament editor for de Gruyter’s international Encyclopedia of the Bible and Its Reception and has been on the editorial boards of multiple academic journals. On a more popular level, he has written books on George Harrison, religious experience, and death and what might lie beyond.

Guest (selected) Publications: Constructing Jesus; The Resurrection of Jesus: Apologetics, Polemic, History and Encountering Mystery: Religious Experience in a Secular Age

Guest Website/Social Media: 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNm0D0I5gdQ&t=102s

Theme Music by: Forrest Clay found on the EP, Recover.

You can find Forrest Clay's music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson

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Welcome back for part 2 of my conversation with Megan Devine in our series on grief and loss. Psychotherapist Megan Devine believes that making the world a better place starts with acknowledging grief, rather than seeking to overcome it. She advocates for a revolution in how we discuss loss – personally, professionally, and as a wider community.

Megan is the author of the best-selling book, It’s OK that You’re Not OK: Meeting Grief & Loss in a Culture that Doesn’t Understand, and her guided grief journal, How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed. Her animated “how to help a grieving friend” video distills a complex issue into simple, actionable steps in just over three (adorable) minutes. Gaining over 50 million views in its first few months, the animation is now used in training programs all around the world.

Megan’s work has been translated into 15 languages, and is featured widely in the media, including the New York Times, Marketplace, The Atlantic, Washington Post, GQ, Harvard Business Review, and Bitch magazine. She’s a sought after expert when grief erupts in the public sphere. Her latest collaborative project, the PBS documentary Speaking Grief, is out now. 

Guest (selected) Publications: It’s OK That You’re Not OK: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn’t Understand” 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.refugeingrief.com 

Facebook: @refugeingrief 

Twitter: @refugeingrief 

Instagram: @refugeingrief 

Theme Music by: Forrest Clay 

“Does God & Recover” found on the EP, Recover.

You can find Forrest Clay's music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson

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Welcome to 2023! We’re back! To kick off the year I welcome the amazing Megan Divine to kick off our series on grief and loss. Psychotherapist Megan Devine believes that making the world a better place starts with acknowledging grief, rather than seeking to overcome it. She advocates for a revolution in how we discuss loss – personally, professionally, and as a wider community.

Megan is the author of the best-selling book, It’s OK that You’re Not OK: Meeting Grief & Loss in a Culture that Doesn’t Understand, and her guided grief journal, How to Carry What Can’t Be Fixed. Her animated “how to help a grieving friend” video distills a complex issue into simple, actionable steps in just over three (adorable) minutes. Gaining over 50 million views in its first few months, the animation is now used in training programs all around the world.

Megan’s work has been translated into 15 languages, and is featured widely in the media, including the New York Times, Marketplace, The Atlantic, Washington Post, GQ, Harvard Business Review, and Bitch magazine. She’s a sought after expert when grief erupts in the public sphere. Her latest collaborative project, the PBS documentary Speaking Grief, is out now. 

Guest (selected) Publications: It’s OK That You’re Not OK: Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn’t Understand” 

Guest Website/Social Media: 

www.refugeingrief.com 

Facebook: @refugeingrief 

Twitter: @refugeingrief 

Instagram: @refugeingrief 

Theme Music by: Forrest Clay 

“Does God & Recover” found on the EP, Recover.

You can find Forrest Clay's music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!

This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited, mixed, and produced by John Williamson 

Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social media

Join our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists 

Website by Ryan Battles

All photos by Jared Hevron

Logos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pfluig

T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. 

Starting your own podcast? Try Riverside! https://riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_1&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=john-williamson

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