This week on The CW Spiral, Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens forgo watching something new, or a classic, to have a Green Table Talk about the definition of a cliffhanger.

Yes, there's a standard that should be met and they've taken out their measuring stick to try to gauge where it is.

What's your standard for a cliffhanger? How would you define the term and apply it to television? Share your opinion with the trio!

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Happy Thanksgiving! For this year's holiday special, Sabrina Reed watched her first ever episode of Gilmore Girls, supplying Reed Gaudens and Michael Patterson with her hot takes and opinions of a classic episode from the beloved series.

The trio also revisited Gossip Girl's "Blair Waldorf Must Pie!" which reminded them of how much they love the original. HBO Max's revival came and it saw but it did not conquer like the CW drama. Speaking of the network, there's news! Two comedies have been pulled from the schedule (again) and we finally have filming windows for three out of four of the returning shows.

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0:30 - CW News: Everyone Else Burns and Run the Burbs have been removed from the Thursday night line-up. All American begins filming in December followed by All American: Homecoming and Superman & Lois in January 2024.

6:00 - Gossip Girl 1x09 review: Parental drama with a side of growth for Turkey Day

36:34 - Gilmore Girls 3x09 review: Hot takes and a scholarly study of dialogue

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The time has come! Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens have finished their Tarzan journey. Listen as the trio give their thoughts on the last two episodes of the short-lived WB series.

Also on deck: The Spiral react to the end of the strikes, Superman & Lois ending with season 4, and WWE NXT coming to The CW. Plus, an announcement about the Thanksgiving special.

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0:20 - The strike is over!

2:10 - The end of Superman & Lois is nigh

4:40 - WWE NXT will usher The CW into a new wrestling era

11:22 - Saying goodbye to Tarzan 20 years after the series finale aired

47:10 - The classic Thanksgiving episodes we're watching for the next pod

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Look, The CW Spiral knows they're 20 years late with their anger over the WB cancelling Tarzan but Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens had no idea how attached they'd get to the eight episode series.

Episode 6, "Surrender," had its issues but Jane laying everything on the line and the show breaking away from the case of the week format really did wonders. With only two episodes left, the trio wonder what's in store as they race to Tarzan's abrupt end.

Also on deck: The Spiral reacts to Dawson's Creek, Party of Five, the Melrose reboot, and Heartland being available to stream on the CW App and cwtv.com.

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Happy (almost) Halloween from The CW Spiral! This week Reed Gaudens and Michael Patterson get Sabrina Reed's reaction to her first episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Pod listeners chose season 4, episode 4 "Fear, Itself" for the trio to watch for spooky season and the episode delivered!

Also, along with a trip to Sunnydale, the Spiral have CW news to share, a soap box moment, and they continue their journey through The WB's Tarzan. Spoiler alert: The writers finally gave Leighton Meester something to do.

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0:00 - Intro

0:32 - CW News: Everyone Else Burns gets renewed, FBoy Island moves to Fridays, and Sullivan's Crossing + The Spencer Sisters are the most watched fall series on The CW.

12:37 - Soap Box Moment: Hey (sports) journalists! When covering The CW, if you're not going to talk about shows from this decade, at least pick shows from the 2010s. Why are we all the way back in 2006?

26:37 - Buffy the Vampire Slayer 4x04 review: A great Halloween watch

51:40 - Tarzan 1x05 review: Nicki left the house but at what cost?

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Finally, we have some good news from The CW and no one's more excited than Reed Gaudens though Sabrina Reed and Michael Patterson are a close second. That's because Vanessa Morgan is coming back to the network in the procedural series, Wild Cards. The actress is the lead and The CW Spiral will be seated! The trio will also be tuning into Sight Unseen which is bringing another CW vet back to their screens, Daniel Gillies.

As for wrestling making its way back...well, the Spiral are less excited about that since it's NWA and not WWE, but with Michael as their guide into wrestling, they may catch a match if the reports of The CW broadcasting the sport are true.

Picking up where they left off with Tarzan--which also marks the halfway point for the eight episode season--episode 4 "Rules of Engagement" is the best episode of the series since the pilot. The more the trio of seen, the more they wish the show hadn't have been canceled by The WB.

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0:00 - Intro

0:32 - CW News: Wild Cards and Sight Unseen details; NWA is coming to The CW (reportedly, not confirmed)

20:05 - Pitching a Thunder Point series on The CW

23:38 - Tarzan 1x04: The best episode since the pilot

1:05:33 - What Halloween episode from a classic WB/The CW shows should the Spiral watch?

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The CW's new content is still riding the bench when it comes to Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gauden's watch list, but the trio do have news to share about the network this week.

Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa revealed Riverdale's final season could have taken viewers out of the '50s and into more decades but the writers room showed restraint. Sullivan's Crossing and The Spencer Sisters' debuted to strong numbers (at least on The CW's scale), and there's reportedly a premiere window for All American, All American: Homecoming, Superman & Lois, and Walker.

As for the CW Spiral's Tarzan journey, they may be a bit ahead of the plot but no one can say this group isn't invested. Episode 3, "Wages of Sin," put the case of the week in the driver's seat to mixed results but the use of Matt Nathanson as a theme for our hero was an excellent decision.

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0:26 - CW News: Riverdale's forgone decades plot; Sullivan's Crossing and The Spencer Sisters' debut ratings

11:03 - When the All American universe, Superman & Lois, and Walker are expected to return

16:24 - Tarzan 1x03: The case takes up too much of the plot but at least there's Matt Nathanson

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As Reed Gaudens put it when the CW Spiral started their Tarzan journey, the pilot piloted but episode 2, "Secrets and Lies," is where he, Michael Patterson, and Sabrina Reed began to see cracks in the hidden gem. This is due, in part, to an unexpected death, some very thin writing for Jane Porter, and a failure of the Bechdel Test that could have at least gone somewhere. But in spite of these drawbacks, the trio are glad to be on this fast-paced ride. They're manifesting what they hope to see next on the short-lived WB series especially now that Lucy Lawless has been introduced into the plot as Tarzan's aunt, Kathleen Clayton.

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In the first episode of The CW Spiral's third season, Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens are starting their Tarzan journey!

It's been 20 years since the WB series from Eric Kripke aired. Back in 2003, the adventure drama was canceled after eight episodes. Having watched its chef's kiss of a pilot, the Spiral are putting on their investigative hats to sort out whether the show was cut down too soon or it fizzled the longer season 1 went on.

Join the trio as they discuss Leighton Meester's involvement in Tarzan, the musical cues in the pilot that include a classic Avril Lavigne song, and how the WB series gave them Batman vibes.

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0:00 - Intro

0:20 - The CW Spiral are back for season 3 and they're pivoting hard to the WB vault. (What you can expect in the third season)

1:14 - CW News: Premiere dates and synopses for Sullivan's Crossing and The Spencer Sisters. Crime Nation is coming in 2024.

8:46 - WB's Tarzan 1x01 review: They don't make TV like this anymore

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The CW's 90210 holds a special place in Reed Gaudens heart so, of course, The CW Spiral had to celebrate its 15th anniversary with a special pod episode. On this dive into the show, Sabrina Reed and Michael Patterson are taken on a journey led by Reed through the season 2 premiere, the soft reboot of the series that transformed it into the underrated, iconic show that it is.

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On the last pod episode of The CW Spiral's second season, Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens bid farewell to Nancy Drew and give Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa his flowers for the Riverdale series finale.

Also on deck: the Spiral share information on their upcoming 90210 anniversary special + their September hiatus, and tease their plans for season 3!

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0:24 - Nancy Drew series finale review: The boat was docked

42:08 - Riverdale series finale review: An iconic show cements its place in TV history

1:31:18 - Spiral News: 90210's 15th anniversary special pod episode, September hiatus, and the start of the pod's season 3 aka their Roberto era

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Grab a chair and a snack, y'all, Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens are spending this pod episode discussing why Nancy Drew 4x12 was not only unforgivable and hurtful but also one of the worst things that the writers could have done to the story we've all invested our time in.

Also on deck: An update on The Good Lawyer as the trio manifest a series pick-up for Kennedy McMann's potential new project.

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In all honesty, Nancy Drew has gone off the rails but Sabrina Reed and Michael Patterson do their best to catch Reed Gaudens up on the latest shenanigans happening in Horseshoe Bay. Also, the trio review Heartstopper season 2, the loveliest show with the most heartfelt romance at its center.

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0:17 - CW News: Can you stream the pulled CW shows and can the delayed series make a 13 episode season?

15:51 - Nancy Drew 4x11 review: A hot mess with a side of Seder

47:36 - Heartstopper season 2 review: Still the best YA out right now

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Bear with Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens as they launch into an obligatory CW news bag at the top of this week's episode. The CW is making moves, even if the trio aren't really here from them. But, once that's out the way, they'll dive into the latest Nancy Drew episode which had Tristan's past life telling Nancy he's her soulmate. Let's just say this threw the trio for a loop.

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0:00 - Intro

0:36 - CW News Bag: Pulled shows, FBoy Island vs. Big Brother, beautiful cars, and the ACC games

17:15 - Nancy Drew 4x10 review: Is he really your soulmate, Nancy? Or is he just a sin-eating lobsterman?

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On this week's episode, Michael Patterson and Reed Gaudens take a trip to Riverdale for a long overdue check-in on the final season. They're finally caught up and taking season 7's temperature while also giving some thoughts on the most recent episode.

The duo, who are without Sabrina Reed this week, then dive into the newest episode of Nancy Drew season 4, which featured a shocking reveal about the Sin Eater. There's also an unexpected tangent about the 2011 film Red Riding Hood.

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0:47 – A Riverdale season 7 catch-up

35:52 – Nancy Drew 4x09 review: We need to talk about the Sin Eater

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On this week's episode of the pod, Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens take a moment to honor Bitsie Tulloch's performance in Superman & Lois season 3 since the academy refuses to recognize genre actors once again in the Emmy nominations. From there, the trio spiral into a talk about television in this era and the respect that needs to be put on network TV's name.

Also on deck: The spiral talk at length about Nancy Drew's body swap episode that Reed describes as a shot of serotonin.

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0:00 - Intro

0:31 - Bitsie Tulloch deserves an Emmy! (ft. a spiral about the state of TV)

23:54 - Nancy Drew 4x08 review: Body swap!

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Hollywood's writers and actors are both striking. Once more Sabrina Reed and Reed Gaudens are living through history and they have some thoughts on this significant moment in the entertainment industry.

The duo, who are without Michael Patterson for this week's episode, also talk The CW's fall schedule, the All American: Homecoming cast cuts, and two of the best episodes of Nancy Drew season 4.

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0:28 - The actors strike is underway

11:43 - The CW's fall schedule 2023

18:43 - All American: Homecoming cast cuts

25:12 - Nancy Drew 4x06-4x07 review: Holding out for a hero!

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The Superman & Lois season 3 finale was nothing short of epic. Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens have glowing praise for how the season wraps though that doesn't mean the show escapes criticism for its handling of some of the plots. Let's just say they have some parting shots about the supporting characters.

Also on deck: Two thirds of the Spiral give an out of context review of the Gotham Knights series finale while Michael shares his thoughts and fills in the gaps. The plot on Nancy Drew was plotting but that doesn't mean the trio were keeping up with it. And, though the Mole has gotten a promotion, that doesn't mean the Spiral are done manifesting and hoping he can make their wishes come true.

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0:00 - Intro

0:23 - Superman: Legacy's Clark Kent and Lois Lane have been cast

9:18 - Superman & Lois season 3 finale review: Epic!

57:41 - Gotham Knights series finale review: The show proved everyone wrong

1:16:59 - Nancy Drew 4x05 review: The plot was plotting

1:50:58 - Manifesting a Riverdale retrospective and a coffee table book

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Lex Luthor made his Superman & Lois debut on the penultimate episode of season 3. Michael Patterson, Sabrina Reed, and Reed Gaudens weigh in on Michael Cudlitz's performance and talk what worked in 3x12 and what really, really didn't.

Also on deck: The Spiral's reaction to Barons being pulled from The CW's schedule and the first post-Nace breakup episode of Nancy Drew season 4.

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0:00 - Intro

0:15 - What does Barons being removed from the schedule mean for the other acquisitions?

8:32 - Superman & Lois 3x12 review: Lex’s Long Walk

48:18 - Nancy Drew 4x04 review: Killer set

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The CW slashed Superman & Lois' budget and Sabrina Reed, Michael Patterson, and Reed Gaudens are reeling from the results. Seven cast members have been cut as series regulars. SEVEN. We're getting a season 4, but this won't be the show we're used to.

Also on deck: A near hour long review of Nancy Drew 4x03 and a Green Table Talk for the fandom.

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0:00 - Intro

0:37 - Superman & Lois and All American: Homecoming renewed. Gotham Knights canceled. Professionals looking for a new home.

28:55 - The Chosen is coming to The CW

31:29 - Nancy Drew 4x03 review: Nace the Movie

1:24:36 - Green Table Talk: Nancy Drew isn't being saved as a show, but we could campaign for a movie.

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