"We've Been Here Before": Dr. Monique Couvson on the Neo-Redeemer Era

Sheena and David sit down with Dr. Monique Couvson, acclaimed author of Pushout, Black Stats, and Girls, Unlimited, and president and CEO of Grantmakers for Girls of Color.

Dr. Couvson calls this moment the "neo-redeemer era," a backlash that follows progress, and she argues that we've been here before and the ancestors left us notes. She breaks down why data is one of the first things to come under attack, what Black Stats shows about a community that is growing and not dwindling, and why Black girls and women are at the center of this moment. She also talks about her "grandma's philanthropy," what it means to come together and "get bigger than the bear," and why it is never illegal to love our children and our communities.

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