Building a Business by Accident: How Katie Wagner Turned Expertise into an Empire
24m | Jun 2, 2026Visit https://www.pamjordan.com to work with Pam’s team.
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What happens when a successful journalism career unexpectedly turns into a thriving marketing agency?
In this insightful episode of Pivot to Profit, Pam Jordan sits down with Katie Wagner, founder and CEO of KWSM: A Digital Marketing Agency, to discuss her journey from television journalist to entrepreneur and the financial lessons she learned while building a business from the ground up.
After spending 15 years working for major media outlets including ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, and NPR, Katie recognized the shift toward digital media and took a leap into entrepreneurship. What started as a consulting business quickly evolved into a full-service agency—and along the way, she learned the critical difference between revenue and profit.
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Inside this episode, Katie shares:
• How her journalism career led her into entrepreneurship
• The surprising way she accidentally built a marketing agency
• The financial lessons every business owner needs to understand
• Why cash flow management is just as important as revenue
• How to avoid confusing top-line growth with true profitability
• What lead generation looks like in an AI-driven world
• Why authentic storytelling still outperforms generic content
• How entrepreneurs can build trust and authority online
This conversation blends entrepreneurship, profitability, leadership, marketing strategy, and mindset into a practical discussion every business owner can learn from.
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Connect with Katie:
Website: https://kwsmdigital.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiewagnerkwsm/
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