MMT50 - 244
jD is back and this week he's joined by Pavement super-fan Scott to discuss song number 44 on the countdown.
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[0:00] Previously on the Pavement Top 50.
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[0:02] So this is song number 45 on the countdown.
And it is our first track from Terra Twilight on the list so far.
It is You Are a Light. What do you think of this track, Matt?
Personally, and hey, you know, not trying to be controversial.
I like it. I think it's great.
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[0:28] Oh.
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[0:29] That's not controversial.
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[0:31] I guess you're right.
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[0:32] I guess everybody wrote in.
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[0:35] Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band Pavement, and you're listening to The Countdown.
Hey, it's J.D. here.
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[0:45] Back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown for the seminal indie rock band, Pavement.
Week over week, we're going to count down the 50 essential pavement tracks that you selected with your very own top 20 ballots. ballots.
I tabulated the results using advanced mathematics and an abacus I found somewhere in a junk pile.
And all that's left for us is to reveal this week's track.
How will your favorite song fare in the ranking? Well, you'll need to tune in or whatever the podcast equivalent of tuning in is every week to find out. So there's that.
This week we're joined by Pavement superfan Scott. Scott, got.
How are you doing, motherfucker?
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[1:28] I'm decent, you handsome bastard. How are you doing, JP? I'm great. Thanks for asking.
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[1:34] Where are we talking to you from?
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[1:35] Where are you?
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[1:36] I'm living in Aberdeen, Scotland at the moment. So we've recently had a good flurry of snow, a good few inches. So it's been pretty.
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[1:43] To use a Scottish term for the weather.
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[1:46] It's been pretty Baltic here. Pretty Baltic. That's great. Yeah.
You don't normally get snow?
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[1:54] We do.
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[1:55] Or just a little bit?
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[1:56] Usually when we do it snows it properly snows yeah no no that's slight little flurry tickling you, no we we get battered with it so yeah it's been a pretty it's been the coldest it's beenfor a while though saying that uh well pretty much in the mine it's all week so it's yeah not been ideal not been great for driving but it'll go it's it's going away into the weekends yeahgoodbye yeah Yeah.
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[2:21] That's right. We're getting closer to spring.
Yeah. Thank fuck. I just hate these nights, these dark nights, you know?
It used to never bother me. I used to feel I was a bit of a creature of the night, and I enjoyed the darkness and all of that.
Now I'm a little bit older, I'm like, give me some sunshine. Yeah, absolutely.
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[2:43] Let me see more of the day. Yeah.
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[2:47] Yeah.
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[2:48] Well.
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[2:49] Let's get into this. Okay. I would love to hear your Pavement origins story.
So take me away on a journey.
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[2:56] I will. I'd say it's kind of in two parts. So first time I heard Pavement.
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[3:01] I was a big music fan growing up in my youth.
When I got the age of being able to buy my own music, that's when Britpop hit the UK.
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[3:11] So Oasis.
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[3:13] Blah, Pulp, these were all my bands that were my thing.
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[3:16] It to them.
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[3:17] And it wasn't until 97 when Bluff came out with our, in my opinion.
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[3:21] Our best album Blur.
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[3:24] Which had song two, Beatleburn, et cetera. Yeah. And a heavier sound.
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[3:28] Which regarded to some of us as a more American sound, whatever that equates to.
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[3:35] But it was a bit more alternative. It was not as kind of shiny pop as they can have been doing.
The cheeky chappiness of Blur had kind of ditched that, wanted to go something a bit more harder.
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[3:48] A bit more kind of probably truer to what they were listening to.
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[3:52] And I think it was the guitarist Graham Cox and he made the comment they took all Damon Albarn's Kicks records and burned them and just left them with Pavement and that'swhen I first heard them and I'm like who's Pavement?
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[4:06] Oh wow In those days there was no streaming music and the internet was, I had the internet at my home at 97 so you couldn't really find out who Pavement were unless you readabout them in NME or something none of my friends knew who they were so it didn't really matter just knew they were an American band and then, my first from hearing the name myfirst experience of actually hearing them was they've been stereo on MTV2 Oh really?
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[4:34] Yeah, that was my first experience of seeing them and yeah blown away, stereo, amazing.
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[4:40] Still amazing song and then from that Shady Lane sadly I never bought the album, right in the corners at the time, it kind of passed me by and again.
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[4:49] Things like that are harder to find you wouldn't go out paving as much in your local record shops and down so that wasn't until terror twilight would have been the first paving albumI bought in 99 on CD.
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[5:05] Possibly just too young to go and see them live on my own and again all of my friends didn't know who they were or weren't particularly too interested so I probably neverharboured any ideas of going to see them live and then obviously that was the final tour, and that was me thinking I'll possibly never get to see them a couple of years later I missed out onthe first reunion tour where they played the Barrowlands in Scotland so I missed that and then.
[5:32] They were doing the they'd played the Barrowlands they were going to play it on it would have been Covid so it must have been 2020 or I believe 2021 they were doing a tour, it gotcancelled they were going to play the Barrowlands again I'd missed out on a ticket but.
[5:48] Through having a vaster network of friends and social media groups it's easier to chase down tickets so I'd probably come to the gig and I'd tried to get one and found one forsomebody who was selling a ticket ticket which then led me to Primavera 2022 so that's right me and my friend Jamie had, we booked a Scottish festival called Duna Rabahol it gotcancelled COVID so you got you got a choice of your money back or you could secure your ticket for the festival next year, and I'm always one for I'm not really interested in going to afestival for the festival I want to know who plays first, so I'm like I'm not taking the gamble there might only be a few bands I want to see in the rescheduled year so we thought take themoney back and we'll maybe look at doing our British festival somewhere, then we were speaking to our friends Donald and Lorna and they were talking about going to Primavera 22 andwe decided yeah let's do that and we went to look on the pavement, reunited this is our first gig and I'm like this is it Jamie me when you go, that's where we're going to go just that's greatand then we see in the list of other bands that's great so, first night uh primavira.
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[7:05] They were on the main stage and I heard the previous podcast.
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[7:08] You were there as well. So you just saw the first time I'd all seen the two.
I went to Porto. I didn't go to Barcelona. You went to Barcelona?
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[7:16] I went to Barcelona.
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[7:16] Okay.
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[7:17] Right.
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[7:18] I'd imagine the same thing where the main stage is two stages, side to side.
One band will play on one side and then once they finish, the crew has been getting the rig up for the other band in the next stage. So it's seamless.
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[7:33] There's no all this taking the gear off and waiting to get new gear on for the band to come on it's just like one band finishes maybe 20 minutes you're in the next band yeah i guessthat is how it was yeah i'm vaguely remembering now i was really high so i don't have a great deal of memories other than listening to the playbacks but i remember just being blown awayby back and and then and then pavement came on and it was like wow this is fucking tremendous tremendous well that was yeah i mean i loved it i love primavera as a festival to set thethe side the layout everything about it just it was when if someone had catered you your dream festival, everything about it was just perfect but uh it probably wasn't until pavement kickedin and the first song was frontwards which is possibly my favorite pavement song um it's a really good song yeah i just kicked it with that you're like yeah this is it this is everyone justseemed never aligned you're just in the right space of mind for it you had the right buzz going yeah this is perfect and this set was, phenomenal so after that.
[8:39] Travelling back from Primavera we're going from a flight from Barcelona to, some place else and then from some place else we're flying back to the UK but on the Barcelona goingthrough security on the Barcelona flight we're you're all masked up because it's just after Covid as well so in public places you've got to wear your mask so as I'm walking through theairport, I just kind of look over and I see this kind of big curly hair with a kind of beard under the mask and I'm like, that's Westy and in front of him I see there's Bob and I'm there in frontof me, considerably in front of me and I'm like right if we get through security enough time we can maybe meet them and maybe get a photo taken I say to my friends Jimmy I point themout and I'm like yeah we're going to meet these guys as we get through there once we get through security couldn't see them and they're like missed the opportunity, and we're comingdown the escalator and just as we're coming down the escalator we just see this, amazing figure just slowly straddling through the courtyard of the shops carrying his case and we're likethat's Stephen Malvinus and just as we come down the escalator he just kind of almost stops right in front of us.
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[9:49] And we're like there he is and I just point to him and he points back at me, he did not yeah and we just went over and spoke to him and uh speaking about the gig and things like thatand he was uh asking him to promovere uh he seemed to tell him he was pretty tired kind of thing he'd been partying the night before because he'd stayed to watch uh Gorillaz, oh okay onthe main stage um.
[10:13] So he enjoyed that uh he was telling him it's uh okay never seen them before, uh just a wee chat with him and we told him them well they were later in the year they were coming toGlasgow as part of their tour with the Barrowlands so we'd already got tickets so we told him we'd see him there and he's like, okay you crazy guys from Scotland catch you later got aphoto with him he'd done the strong arm pose in it oh that's great yeah he is such he's such a presence isn't he yeah I said it was just it it seemed just kind of fitting for what was a magicalholiday a magical festival just that or about you get the kind of the blues it's all over you get home and just that last minute you get here he is the man you want to meet, yeah just comestraight up yeah just I don't believe in coincidences or fate or anything like that just kind of it had to end that way we had to meet him so yeah so following that saw him at Barrowlandsgig, so I met I was at the Barrowlands you were you yeah I was yeah so we might have bumped into each other had we known probably we very well likely did but we just never Neverknew each other.
Yeah, it's a magical place. It's a great gig. Do you enjoy the bottom lines?
Oh, man. It's so cool.
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[11:24] Yeah.
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[11:26] The sign, like the neon sign, is so cool.
The venue itself is great. And that set that they played that night was a lot of fun. Yeah.
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[11:37] I mean.
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[11:37] It just kicked in. First song was thin.
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[11:39] That was excellent. Just as soon as the drums start.
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[11:42] I'm like.
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[11:42] Oh.
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[11:44] Playing it and yeah excellent they played the hex as well which i was looking forward to another one of my favorites and they jammed the fuck out of it right yeah yeah they didyeah yeah they were great yeah and then after that to top off the year i would just um be my friend jamie again who went to my world of pavement gigs he also saw them in edinburgh thenight after yeah you get around, yeah i'd never been to the uk before i'd never been so i wanted to go and i followed them around yeah yeah what better what better reason eh right yeahyou ever go and you got a lot of nice venues to go and visit as well really nice place yeah different my friend my friend jamie he said he actually preferred out the two sets uh and thesound he said he preferred the edinburgh gig at the two really yeah he just i like i like the barrel ends better yeah i can't comment i wasn't there sadly i had to work the the edinburgh gigwas like they opened with what did they open with they opened with something low-key and if i remember correctly and it sort of set the tone it It was just a less excited show. Like it was.
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[13:03] It was more.
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[13:04] Uh, I don't know, low-key. I think it's, I don't mean to be disparaging to them, but I find when you're at gigs in Glasgow and Edinburgh, the kind of vibe and the atmosphere can bequite different.
Glasgow seems always kind of party-like.
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[13:23] And everyone seems ready to party. Yeah, and Edinburgh can be a bit more laid back.
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[13:29] A bit of a kind of cooler, hipster-ish vibe, I suppose you could say.
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[13:35] But it's its own thing.
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[13:37] But yeah it's tale of two cities isn't it yeah there's different places yeah so what is your what is your go-to record then you came in at bright in the corners um and i guess you werethere when terror twilight was released but what is the record that you find yourself going back to more often than not for me it's uh what is it i would say is my one i just loved it yeah it's,it's got everything they cover it really does every single thing it really does yeah it's like people compared to the B.O.S.
White album you can't understand why it's just it's just a mix of things with so many different styles, everything.
[14:20] Everything's really different but it all just it does flow very nicely there's never a moment where yeah something comes in and it jars but it's like no that's wrong it's too much it's tooloud it's too slow it's too sad or whatever everything's just perfect and the way it leads you in we we dance yeah such a great track this is kind of almost just kind of welcomes you in justthat little subtle beat it's called the pavement tricks but it just kind of it kind of lures you in it's gonna be like come on it's gonna be a little bit different this time yeah get involved yeahbecause the first two albums i mean they're pretty big songs starting slanted and and uh trigger cut yeah so that's a kind of it's very different but i mean yeah i love it i love woe is owingyeah, yeah well the song that we're going to cover today i'll give it away a little bit is not from wowie zowie uh we'll get to that song in just a minute if you want to stick around and talkabout the song with us scott i shall all right so we'll take a quick break and we'll be be back with Scott in just a moment.
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[15:25] Hey, this is Bob Mustanovich from Pavement. Thanks for listening.
And now on with a countdown.
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[15:33] 44.
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[19:23] Okay so the number 44 track you've just heard it it's embassy bro the second song from bright in the corners after blue hawaiian at number 50 on the countdown this is the seventhtrack from bright in the corners the actual record scott what do you think of embassy bro at number 44, embassy rule i do love it's uh i like things i like about it is it's, it kind of lulls you inwith this I feel Malchus kind of does quite a lot with his his lyrics and his melodies are they're kind of like nursery rhymes the way they kind of.
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[20:02] They flow and they're.
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[20:04] The structure of the set is quite kind of nice and gentle and it's, it kind of comes in quite breezy, and then you get the kind of Beach Boys kind of backing vocals with the ba ba baba, and it's just kind of and then it changes yeah and then it changes and it gets heavier and it's probably it's it's probably kind of heavy side this track on side two as well i believe embassyrow but yeah it kicks in it kicks in pretty hard it's got great solo.
[20:34] Be malchus as well it does kind of that kind of lightning a ball kind of style where it's just crashing about it's great that riff that main riff is really good too right and it's one of thosekind of things that i mean you don't know know did the intro was intro always there was intro another track that never get finished and they just flung them together because it neverappears again that intro part i said it's done the rest of it is just other than the ba ba ba ba's are sort of there in the chorus right they're deeper in the mix they're muddier in the mix butthey're there but that's the only connective tissue yeah other than that there's nothing that like you say nothing that really connects them they're very separate so it very well could be aseparate song that they just added of those ba-ba-ba's on the chorus and who the fuck knows.
[21:21] But yeah and he's I was reading something as well partly my own wish to see and it's one of his least favourite his least favourite song on the album it is?
It is, yeah where did you get that from?
It was some website I was looking for the lyrics and it was something called Song Meanings oh okay yeah, someone's put it i mean i don't know if it was an interview or something or wellbut there's no there's no there's no quote directly just someone had written malcolm has said this is his least favorite song on the album so who knows it may just be this person's favoritesong he's winning, one about backing from steven tell them yeah i love this record like from top to bottom i would have a tough time saying this is my least favorite it's not my favoritesong on the record but it's no certainly not my least favorite no i mean i think it's a solid album from all 12 tracks uh.
[22:16] It's it's a close contender for my favourite along with Woobie Zoey those two those two are the albums I kinda I'd say they're, pretty much on par I just I prefer the diversity ofWoobie Zoey you get a lot more diverse Brighton Corners has got, Brighton Corners I feel has got a really good kind of cohesive sound to it everything, sounds as if it all is all part of theone album it sounds, obviously it was all recorded in one place but it sounds like it was recorded just in this one place the album has as i sound and feel to every song yeah yeah and asopposed to terror twilight which is which is you know produced in a more meticulous way but a similar kind of way like this is a more lush production for sure but this record still feelsvery pavementy like whereas terror twilight feels like a beta test for for steven malchmus uh solo career you know yeah i mean it was it was by that that point you've read, the articles andinterviews that have come out years later and you found out that he's trying to push the band, places in Terror of Twilight that they were uncomfortable with they weren't feeling they werecapable of maybe performing that's how, I'm pretty sure Terror of Twilight was a different drummer on a couple of tracks I believe, Yeah, I don't know who it was who did it, but I knowthat Westy found out that there were some drum tracks that got done by someone else.
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[23:41] And I forget who it was.
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[23:43] I'll have to look at the liner notes. But that's me, uncool and underqualified to the very end.
Underprepared, I should add to the statement as well.
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[23:53] But in that album.
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[23:54] Brain in the Corners.
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[23:57] I'd say.
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[23:58] Note for note.
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[24:00] That's Pavement Adler probably best as a band. Everything with him clicks.
They're getting the strongest performances out of all of them I feel and I've obviously that was Mark Miss was kind of again pushing them into this you hear on the some of the kind ofouttakes, and improvisation that's going on in the songs and he's he's like he doesn't have lyrics for certain bits and he's like singing to the guys like this bit's gonna go like this now andthen he's shouting the changes at them you see him working with them in these kind of rehearsals or, demos and whatever it's just he's kind of it's it's not like Marky Smith shouting ordersat the the band or something like that.
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[24:33] But he's just leading them on he's like, you can see he's inspired by the performances as well.
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[24:37] It's pushing him on to the tracks places that maybe he didn't see them going, There's a good bit of creativity going on with him there, but it sounds none of it sounds.
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[24:47] People are quite an improvisational band at times, but you get that in the live performances where there'll be some songs you'll see it one night and it'll be quite standard on nights.
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[24:57] Something just takes a performance somewhere else and Martin will sort of push it a bit further and extend certain parts but right in the corner it's.
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[25:07] They've probably not rehearsed the arse out of it.
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[25:09] But they've put in the performance.
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[25:12] They know exactly where the songs go, where they start, where they finish, and it's just like, it's a piece of album perfection. Definitely.
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[25:21] Yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah.
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[25:24] Anything else about Embassy Row?
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[25:26] Embassy Row, I was going through the set lists as well for all the gigs.
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[25:31] Oh, okay. So, turns out.
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[25:34] Barcelona.
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[25:37] Primavera, they played the embassy role there.
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[25:40] Yeah. I can't say it right now.
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[25:42] I said, I can't. Lay yourself.
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[25:46] Easy recollections of it. But, yeah.
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[25:48] They played that ninth on the set. And it seemed to, a lot of the sets that I looked through, even ones I wasn't at, they would be playing embassy role.
They always seemed to appear in that kind of, the middle of the sets.
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[26:01] All the time I also played at the Barrowlands yeah again and I done three nights at the Roundhouse and on the final night of the Roundhouse they played in Missoula there as well,yeah Roundhouse so you were you were at three shows at the Roundhouse yeah, yeah which three which three did you go to me and my friend Jamie were we booked, a few days downand just to go to one of the gigs we wanted to go to the one where uh b core plane so i booked that one and then i was just kind of looking about on um ticket sites, and i saw some ticketscome up for this thub night which was one of my other favorite uh bands recently was bitch us were uh the support for night two nine eight sorry night three, okay so i went to that andthen i just thought we're gonna be down for the fourth day as well well.
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[26:56] May as well just try and get a ticket. So we did.
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[26:59] That's brilliant.
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[27:00] But yeah.
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[27:00] All nights were great.
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[27:03] And we had a great time in London. But the performances were something.
The night when it was Lost Bitches, the Sabon band.
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[27:11] Just everything. Again, just one of those nights where they were great.
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[27:14] It was our first time at a rent house, so you're getting in there, trying to find your spot, trying to gauge where's the best place to stand in the room for the acoustics.
And the first night was brilliant.
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[27:26] It but second night which was the last bit last night was just every little bit of sound it was just it was perfect I think they started to be grounded and then I went into.
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[27:42] Gold sounds yeah probably that's a that's a hell of a one-two punch yeah and i can't expect it grounded is not something you're thinking you're going to start to say it with but thereyou go just walked on stage straight into excellent yeah but yeah they were great great all three of those nights yeah somebody right yeah yeah your first time in the roundhouse as wellthat was my first That was my first time in the UK, period, yeah.
So for me, I think, just going back to Embassy Row for a minute, I think lyrically it's an interesting song.
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[28:18] I think that it's very cohesive.
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[28:20] Whereas SM songs aren't necessarily always cohesive.
This song has this political sort of thing going all the way through the song, like from beginning to end.
End um even in you know like uh old intuition on your dock we're fishing somebody give us a grade and uh you know you get those grades being doled out and then where is the savoirand i almost feel like he's he's making a play on savior yeah it's definitely yeah right where is the savoir but then he gets then he finishes the sentence and says savoir faire which is likesocial graces right Right, which is the ability to speak appropriately in a social setting.
It's a knowledge of knowing what to do in every situation.
That's right. It's kind of like effortlessly.
Yeah. Which I don't know that SM excels in that, even though he's much better than he used to be, I think.
[29:27] He is a little awkward sometimes. sometimes you know yeah i think it could come across that way and then in interviews when you've put um when you've seen videos ofinterviews with him and he kind of he doesn't look too comfortable in them and that's right but i think he's he's one of those i mean you probably find him in a party sitting in the corner ofthe room yeah i bet if you go if you hadn't spoken to him he'd always have something good to say he'd always be something interesting about him so he's he's He's got a bit of savvy there.
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[29:54] It's just, he's not.
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[29:56] He's not walking around with James Bond with it.
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[29:58] But he's got. No, that's true.
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[30:00] He's got it. He's got his own brand of it. He definitely does.
Like I said earlier, an aura, right?
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[30:05] But yeah.
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[30:06] I mean, the lyrics are, as you said, they're a bit more cohesive because I like how some of his lyrics is, certain lines will lead you to somewhere and then it'll just take a completelydifferent.
Strange turn on the one way or whoever he's talking about and you're yeah it's crazy it's it's almost like drifting in and out of dreams where it's yeah one moment you could be you're on aboat and the next minute you're paragliding somewhere it just and then you could be on the moon it just keeps it just yeah he's just always jumping around wait it's almost like, it's ahyperactive mind where you just get too much to say at once and he starts telling you one story he's like no no but no need to get to here no need to get to here but this one it does is kindof stick because i'm kind of it's not you could say political it's probably as political as paven got but oh yeah oh yeah i don't think it's political in the sense that it's got a message no but it'spolitical in that it's describing you know heads of state and yeah you know that sort of shit exactly they're not world of foreign feeds yeah what do you think of the ending to me the endingof this song just fucking slays like that those backup vocals and and him saying i'm going to take the crown and he almost goes into like kurt cobain territory with his voice like it's soscratchy and so gnarly and then and then it ends with that scream wow yep yeah.
[31:31] It's good it kind of takes you back to the some of the earlier stuff from the the early singles and the stuff on Slant Enchanted where it was it was kind of more on that kind of youcould liken it to like what Nirvana and Sonic Youth were doing, yeah had that kind of sound and it's I said it's probably is I think it's the heaviest track on Brighton and Connors definitelyI definitely think so yeah it's probably kind of the punkiest moment on it as well yeah once you get past the nice intro it does it picks up pace and then it keeps kind of accelerating as yousay it gets that the frantic ending that.
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[32:05] Like, not many songs from Bright in the Corners would work on Wowie Zowie.
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[32:09] But I feel like this song could work on Wowie Zowie. Like, it would have fit. Definitely. Yeah.
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[32:16] It's got that kind of energy, like Serpentine Pad.
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[32:19] Yeah. Best Friend's Arm as well. Yeah. It's got that energy.
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[32:25] Totes.
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[32:26] Yeah. Oh, sorry. No.
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[32:28] Go ahead. Sorry.
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[32:29] No, I was just saying I was trying to look for some good footage online, but there's not a lot of...
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[32:35] Kind of live performances off it available sadly i wonder why that is yeah there's a few i mean you got a few like um shot with fans in the crowd and things like that but there's not alot of actual footage like isolated here's embassy row from going on a brian show or something like that there's really right right nothing exists off it really apart from just fine fine stuff butyeah yeah well dude it's been great talking pavement with you this afternoon thanks and uh i really appreciate your time is there any place that you want to to tout or plug or uh wherepeople can find you anything like that no modest man me i don't have any wheels to sail or anything like that no thank you anyway uh no i mean hopefully i've just uh we'll meet eachother again at pavement gigs in the future or something we'll look out for each other for sure and all of us yeah all of us i mean that's a it's gonna it's gonna it's been kind of nice i meanpeople who finding a community of people um that love payment as much as i do because kind of growing up in.
Track 4:
[33:50] All through my late teens to into my twenties because they'd went away.
There were not really a lot of people I knew who liked them or listened to them or spoke to them so it was almost like marking a little private thing because when the expanded editionCDs come out I get them and I'm just living with them for months, at a time they're just like getting when I hear something about a band that I've just discovered I've got that kind of,energy and just desire to just like i need i want to learn it all i know all about them i want to know all the tracks and the expanded editions were just great for just like not only you get thealbum not only you get the singles and the b-sides here's the peel sessions, here's a live gig thrown in it was everyone you could have wanted for for those kind of sets, oh they built themso the only thing i want now is i want them in vinyl yeah same yeah because i've I've got Terror Twilight and I've got the other four on CD, but I want the other four on vinyl. And I knowyou can get Bright in the Corners.
You can get the Nicene Creators Edition on Discogs on vinyl, but they didn't make Wowie or Slanted or Crooked Rain.
Track 3:
[34:59] No.
Track 4:
[35:00] They've done something with the... Box sets.
Track 3:
[35:02] There was something with the singles from the Slanted Enchanted disc.
Track 4:
[35:07] Yeah, they did that Secret Life, Secret World. I was thinking, I remember getting to ask, I was hoping.
Track 3:
[35:13] Well.
Track 4:
[35:13] Hoping they were going to do a series of them that would catalyze it.
Track 3:
[35:17] So all the stuff that you got in the expanded editions, but it never seemed to take any fruition, sadly.
Track 4:
[35:22] I don't like that. Yeah.
Track 1:
[35:27] But, good memories anyway.
Track 3:
[35:29] It was a great 2022 the year of Pavement. Good year.
Track 4:
[35:33] Good year in Pavement.
Track 3:
[35:34] For sure. Fair doubt.
Track 4:
[35:37] Alright, brother.
Track 6:
[35:38] Okay.
Track 3:
[35:38] Man.
Track 4:
[35:38] Thank you for your time. It was great to be a part of it. Talk to you real soon.
Track 3:
[35:41] And we'll be excited to see what number one is. in this list.
That's right. Ha ha ha. Wash your goddamn hands.
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