- What the heck is Kairos?
The first rule of Kairos is that you don’t talk about Kairos….and today the hosts are rule breakers! Listen in as Anne recounts her experience with this widespread Catholic senior retreat program. References include Cindy Lauper and the Indigo Girls.
NOTE: See below link for a (more or less) positive update on the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence/Dodgers situation since we recorded!
LINKS:
Vatican withdraws World Youth Day 2023 stamp after criticism in Portugal
UPDATED info on Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence and the Dodgers (they were asked back after we recorded!)
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Heavyweight Ep #51: The Elliots
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48m | May 30, 2023 - Reading While Lapsed: A Conversation with BookTok Icon Lupita Aquino
Show up for some awesome queer Latine BookTok gossip, stick around for the excellent #catholicgrandma content. Curl up with your beverage of choice and listen in as literary enthusiast and TikTok-er Lupita Aquino spills the tea about skipping out on catechism classes for the thrills of the mall, the trials and tribulations of celebrating your birthday on the feast day of Our Lady of Guadalupe (and sharing her name!), and what it means to sometimes feels like a Secret Catholic.
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How Not To Drown In A Glass of Water
The People Who Report More Stress
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51m | May 16, 2023 - Moon Bishops And Other Actual Headlines
Listen in as Steph and Anne catch up Catholicism in the News. Topics include limbo, the devil holding Jesus ransom, a song that cuts down on Purgatory time, the AI-generated papal puffer coat that launched a thousand tweets, diocese on the Moon, and Jesus’s DNA. Weirdly, this episode includes two references to the decidedly non-Catholic British Royal Family.
Links:
The Catholic Church can never admit that something it taught for centuries was dumb
Singing This Song on Holy Thursday Can Purify Your Soul (And Save You Time in Purgatory)
We Spoke To The Guy Who Created The Viral AI Image Of The Pope That Fooled The World
The Catholic Church Officially Has A Moon Bishop
Pope Francies has given King Charles III a poignant Coronation gift
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Cameron Esposito was a Eucharistic minister
Megan Markle planned her wedding in Catholic school
Dylan Mulvaney and Rosie O’Donnell talk Catholic Mass
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36m | May 2, 2023 - Queer. Catholic. Artist: A Conversation with Dani of "And Her Saints"
Anne and Steph chat with Dani, (she/they) a writer, illustrator, Costa Rican, femme lesbian, and devout catholic who spends most of her time reminding everybody of those last two facts. Dani runs the blog and subsequent store “And Her Saints”, which seeks to illustrate the holy in an affirming and inclusive way. Topics include accidentally denying the virgin Mary as a child (omglol so sorry Our Lady!), surviving a hellish Catholic education experience, and finding queer Catholic community through social media. The hosts also profess their undying love for Catholic grandmas. Again.
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instagram: @andhersaints
twitter: @idkwhosdani
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42m | Apr 18, 2023 - Saint Patrick, patron saint of...shapeshifting?
Beyond the green beer and corned beef, what is the actual deal with Saint Patrick? Grab a pint of Guinness and listen in as Anne and Steph learn the truth (maybe?) about shamrocks, banished snakes, and the true origins of corned beef of St. Paddy's Day. There’s also some deer-related pagan-esque magicky stuff which they totally did not expect. #themoreyouknow 🌈 🍀🦌
Links:
Rabbi & 11-year-old son testify against anti-trans legislation
Francis on his BS about “idiolotical colonization” and transgender identity
Denver-area Catholic women say priest denied them Communion over rainbow masks
Divesting from Whiteness: The Irish & St. Patrick’s Day
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49m | Apr 4, 2023 - Trans Day of Visibility Special Edition: A Conversation with Nat Vikitsreth
As #transdayofvisibility approaches, we are honored to share our conversation with @comebacktocare founder Nat Vikitsreth, a dot connector, norm agitator, and lover of liberation who supports social justice curious parents to practice social justice in their parenting while re-parenting their inner child. Listen in as Nat talks about what it was like attending an all boys' #catholicschool as a Catholic-Buddhist trans kid growing up in Thailand. Highlights include altar boy Spice Girl fashion shows and secret highschool romances. 🔥💙💗💙🔥
A little more about Nat:
Nat is a graduate of and faculty instructor with the Erikson Institute’s Social Work and Child Development Program. She also holds another master’s degree in Infancy & Early Childhood Special Education from the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana. In 2021, she received the Zero to Three Award for Emerging Leadership where she was nationally recognized for her innovative work at Come Back to Care. Her most recent publications include an academic article in the June 2022 Zero to Three Journal and an op-ed piece in Condé Nast’s Them.
Outside of her clinical and psychoeducation work at Come Back to Care, Nat provides political education and mental health support to youth organizers around the stolen land of the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Potawatomi Nations (Chicago). Her advocacy areas include economic justice, intergenerational healing justice, disability justice, and trans rights.
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57m | Mar 21, 2023 - The Anarchy of Ash Wednesday
Anne quizzes Stephanie on Ash Wednesday facts. Spoiler alert: as far as Catholic stuff goes, this may be the most loosey goosey day of the liturgical year! The hosts also talk Catholic toxic masculinity (gross) and about how the Sisters of Mercy are actually kind of rad when it comes to social justice stuff. Sidebars include 80’s Ballroom drag culture and recreational squirrel feeding.
LINKS
- Pope Francis’s Ash Wednesday Homily
- Catholic Bishop Shot and Killed in Los Angeles Home
- Lentformen.com (???!!?)
- World’s Oldest Benedictine Nun, West Ridge’s Sister Vivian Ivantic, Dies At 109
- The Sisters of Mercy are trying to stop the Willow project….and doing other important work!
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50m | Mar 7, 2023 - The Pope's Middle Finger & Other News
Steph and Anne engage in a much needed catch-up session on ***Catholicism In The News*****. College students are sharing dorms with nuns. The FBI is targeting Catholics (but in a needed way). Francis extolls the virtues of....flipping the bird (?!??!). The hosts know an embarrassing number of lyrics to Billy Joel’s “Only The Good Die Young.”
LINKS
- Neumann University needed housing. A local convent had space. Now, nuns and students share a 'dorm’
- The FBI has their eye on radical traditionalist Catholics
- Pope Francis Briefly Gave the Middle Finger His Blessing in Since-Deleted Tweet
- A nun and a monk fell in love, quit their monastic lives and got married
- Pope warns Vatican staff an 'elegant demon' lurks among them
- Former teacher says wrongful termination due to sexual orientation; Archdiocese of Denver says she broke contract
Recommendations:
- “Bad Catholic” by the Metzingers
- Only the Good Die Young by Billy Joel
- Mike Birbiglia’s podcast Working It Out with guest Jimmy Fallon
- Abby Wambach’s commencement speech at Loyola Marymount.
- We’re Here
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53m | Feb 21, 2023 - Lapsed Special Edition: Live Storytelling
This week we bring you something a little different: a story Anne recently performed live at A Very Serious Gallery in Chicago. Listen in as Anne grapples with the question of whether you really can’t go home again. (Related: Are the Bill Swerski’s Superfans of early ‘90’s SNL fame Catholic? Discuss. Write in and tell us. Anne has thoughts.)
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16m | Feb 7, 2023 - An Interview with Abby Rampone of Left Catholic
Anne and Stephanie have the pleasure of sitting down with Abby Rampone of Left Catholic. Abby has lived at two Catholic Worker houses and the Women’s Interfaith Residency Program at Union Theological Seminary. She currently lives at the Fireplace Community, an intentional community on the south side of Chicago, and works as a Ministry Coordinator at DePaul University. Abby and Tess Gallagher Clancy are the co-creators of Left Catholic, a zine which draws on a variety of traditions to articulate a people-centered, anti-capitalist vision of the Catholic left. Their first issue includes voices from the Catholic Worker movement, anti-capitalist art, poetry, theology, ecclesiology, and more.
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43m | Jan 24, 2023 - Your Funny Catholic Stories
Many thanks to listeners who shared their stories! The hosts enjoy the heck out of your funny stories about growing up Catholic, from altar server mishaps to altercations with nuns to giggling and church. Additionally, Stephanie has some intel on a rather mysterious calendar of dreamboat priests, while Anne ponders Catholicism as she watches too much TV. This episode contains a Megan Markle reference.
LINKS
A history of Christmas in America
Anti-abortion US priest Frank Pavone defrocked by Vatican
“Hot Priests” calendar sends hearts racing in rome
The Pope has revealed he has a resignation note to use if his health impedes his work
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47m | Dec 27, 2022 - What's the deal with nativities?
What’s the deal with nativity scenes? That’s what the hosts want to know. A young Steph leveraged her family’s nativity set as a chance at her directorial debut. Little Anne coveted her best friend’s family’s nativity set (there was real hay!). The hosts learn about a rather shocking Catalan nativity tradition and how some Catholics are super smug about Protestants’ veneration of statues during Advent.
LINKS
Jesus Was Probably Born in a Relative’s House, Not an Inn
Salty Article about Protestants and Nativities
America Magazine Interview with the Pope
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50m | Dec 13, 2022 - Send us your funny Catholic stories!
We'll have a new episode ready for you in a couple weeks, but for now we’d love to invite you to share your stories! In the past we have asked you to share your experiences, and you have come through. From questions about navigating Catholic family to stories about how you chose your confirmation name, we are so appreciative of the ways you have contributed your voices to the podcast.
While we’re certainly never afraid to shy away from the bleaker parts of Catholicism, this week’s call for stories takes a little bit lighter tone. We want you to share your funny Catholic stories. What is it about the solemnity of a Catholic Mass that can lead many of us to end up with a case of the giggles? Maybe you attended a Catholic Baptism or wedding where things went sideways. Or you were an alter server trying to hold it together as everything went downhill. Truly, who among us has never found ourselves in a bit of trouble for laughing in church?
Send us your stories! You can write up your story or email us a voicemail at lapsedpodcast@gmail.com. Or you can simply leave us a voicemail at 505-6-lapsed. We cannot wait to hear from you.
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1m | Nov 29, 2022 - The Catholic Church & Contraception
The hosts learn about the Church’s beef with birth control. Anne shares some rather racy Catholicism in the News. Steph points out some colorful language used to describe contraception in the bible. There’s also a Steve Carrell reference, and really, who doesn’t love Steve Carrell?
LINKS
Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly Being Weird
The Pope Urges Priests and Nuns to Delete Porn from Their Phones
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Marcus Mumford’s Awkward Interaction with the Pope
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56m | Nov 16, 2022 - Baptism
The hosts do a deep dive (pun only kind of intended) into Catholic baptism. Anne realizes her older son’s baptism involved a lot of fibbing. Steph is freaked out by all the Satan talk. This episode also involves some fangirling over one of our very favorite lapsed celebrities, Melissa McCarthy.
LINKS
Test scores show Catholic schools largely escaped COVID-induced ‘learning loss’
Collapse: Inside Ireland’s stunning rebuke of Catholicism
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Young Gay and Single Among the Nuns and Widows
Melissa McCarthy: Sex, Nuns and Ghosts on the We Can Do Hard Things podcast
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51m | Nov 1, 2022 - Saints!
Things get unexpectedly spooky as Stephanie and Anne talk murdered saints, postmortem popes, and the occult in this Halloween season-appropriate episode. Join the hosts as they dive into feast days, patrons, canonization, and martyrdom. Steph is still proud to be the only Chavara cousin who got $3 instead of $2 on her patron saint’s feast day. Little Anne dreamed of being one day canonized but never totally worked out the details. The hosts also get macabre as they talk ouija boards and preserved pope corpses (only ONE of which the Catholic Church apparently finds creepy. Can you guess?!?!).
LINKS
https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2022/10/07/ouija-board-spirituality-243154
On Second Vatican Council anniversary, Pope urges Catholic unity
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50m | Oct 18, 2022 - The Catholic Afterlife
Stephanie and Anne take a deep dive into what Catholic school and CCD taught them about life after death. A young Steph imagined a cloudy heaven that was harp-filled and toga-forward. Anne realizes how the Wizard of Oz impacted her early view of the afterlife. The hosts also launch into their own lapsed Catholic version of #yesyesno as they struggle to make sense of a Catholic-adjacent tweet involving #depop, #coquettegirlies and #cleangirlaesthetic (#eldermillenialsareconfused). This episode also once again involves a Harry Potter reference, care of Steph.
LINKS
A Depop Seller Offering $5 Absolution Online Created A Mess Of Catholic Discourse
What Jesus Really Said About Heaven and Hell
What Does the Catholic Church Believe About Life After Death?
Heaven And Hell Are 'Not What Jesus Preached,' Religion Scholar Says
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1h 2m | Oct 4, 2022 - Welcome to Season Two!
Steph and Anne are back with Season 2 of Lapsed! Steph discusses one rather big development in her life (hint: he’s adorable and shares a name with a very Jesuit saint). The hosts also catch up on several months of Catholic news, including Francis updates, newly Catholic celebrities (we’re looking at you, Shia LaBeouf), and Catholic references in the media (oh hey, A League of Their Own). This episode may or may not be peppered with some super cute baby noises.
LINKS
- Pope Francis says he may “think about” stepping aside
- The Pope Apologized for Abuse of Indigenous Children. That’s Not Enough.
- Shia LaBeouf as Padre Pio
- A Catholic Podcasting Star Says Theocracy is Not The Way
- The Greedy Peasant!
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41m | Sep 20, 2022 - Abortion and the Catholic Church...Again.
The hosts grapple with their feelings around the recent Dobbs ruling. Steph dishes on the Kardashian’s recent brush with Catholic aesthetics even though by all accounts they practice…Kardashianism? Anne recalls that one time as a kid when she accidentally stumbled into a Protestant Vacation Bible School. The hosts announce they’re going extra lapsed for summer.
LINKS
Bishop says school flying BLM, LGBTQ flags can no longer call itself Catholic
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45m | Jul 8, 2022 - Sex, Gun Control and Robin Hood: Catholicism in the News
The hosts catch up on ***Catholicism IN THE NEWS****. Steph dishes on Francis’s drink of choice. Anne is jazzed that some Catholic bishops are starting to speak out about gun control legislation…until Steph totally (rightfully) harshes her mellow. Anne also fangirls over a fellow progressive, midwestern, redhead “straight, white, Christian, suburban mom" and does her best to sniff out Catholic influences in Disney. The hosts come to the striking realization that no one in the Western world knew how babies were made until pretty darned recently.
Buffalo Shooting Should Be a Wakeup Call For White Catholics
Pope Francis Says He Needs Tequila for Sore Knee
The ‘straight, white, Christian, suburban mom’ taking on Republicans at their own game
Human conception was still basically a total mystery until as recently as 1875
Catholic teacher fired for teaching about black culture-Decatur GA
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Petition: Ordain Catholic Women Now!
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