Aamer, Elle and Sipho explore spiritually motivated crime and conflict.

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Deep in the jungles of Bougainville, a man crowned himself king, founded a bank with no money, and promised salvation through spreadsheets. Meet Noah Musingku: prophet, monarch, financial engineer and architect of the most absurd sovereign state you’ve never heard of.  Is it a nation, a church or just the world’s most committed pyramid scheme? This week, we’re joined by writer and podcaster extraordinaire Sean Williams to talk us through his remarkable investigation. Find Sean on X: <a href="https://x.com/swilliamsjourno" rel="nofollow">@swilliamsjourno</a> and check out his podcast: <a href="https://www.underworldpod.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.underworldpod.com/</a> His original Harpers story is here: <a href="https://harpers.org/archive/2024/11/the-island-king-sean-williams-bougainville/" rel="nofollow">https://harpers.org/archive/2024/11/the-island-king-sean-williams-bougainville/</a> Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a> Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a> Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a>

26. Ponzi in paradise: the divine right of kings

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When Joshua Boyle and Caitlan Coleman set out on a backpacking trip through Afghanistan, they told friends it was a spiritual journey. What followed was one of the strangest hostage sagas of the 21st century — a tale of love, captivity, delusion and coercion — which has offered up more questions than answers.Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a>Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a>Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a>

25. The hostage honeymoon — how to out-Taliban the Taliban

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In this episode, we dig into the bizarre saga of American evangelicals, stolen artifacts from Iraq, and a DIY biblical empire-building project gone very, very wrong. Then, some riffing on current events and a few past episodes. Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a>Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a>Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a>

24. Indiana Jonesing: Raiders of the Lost Artifacts

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We’re joined by Nathan Apffel, filmmaker of the upcoming Amazon docuseries The Religion Business. In exposing the dark underbelly of America’s wealthiest preachers, he’s faced arrest, a shattered elbow, and more than a few powerful enemies — yet each setback only fuelled his determination to follow the money in this trillion-dollar grift.You can watch the film at: <a href="https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/</a> and follow Nathan’s exploits and forthcoming podcast series on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/religionbusiness" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/religionbusiness</a>Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a>Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a>Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a>

23.  The almighty dollar: how church became a $1.42T business

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In this episode of Hell to Pay, Sipho and Elle explore the fascinating world where football and spirituality collide. From Paul Pogba’s alleged consultation with a marabout, to Egypt’s sacrificial rituals before the Africa Cup of Nations, to stories of witchdoctors on the sidelines, we trace how magic continues to shape the beautiful game across Africa. Along the way, we unpack the deep roots of African Traditional Religion, share personal stories of sangomas, and examine why chants, rituals, and spells are not mere superstition but part of a larger cultural tapestry. At stake is more than just winning matches — it’s about empowerment, identity, and how African players reclaim space in a global sport that often sidelines them.﻿Sources: <ul><li><a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/i-was-taught-not-to-remember-my-grandfather-this-is-why-i-do_uk_5c7ea296e4b078abc6c1d0a7" rel="nofollow">Huffington Post</a>: I was taught not to remember my grandfather. This is why I do. </li><li><a href="https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37632302/witchcraft-part-french-football-central-pogba-saga" rel="nofollow">ESPN</a>: Witchcraft central to Paul Pogba blackmail saga, but it&#39;s nothing new in French football</li><li><a href="https://africasacountry.com/2024/02/the-magic-of-the-beautiful-game" rel="nofollow">Africa is a Country</a>: the ‘magic’ of the beautiful game</li><li><a href="https://youtu.be/FzDMGwTG_yE?si=rJARtfWqW-4Ndyx3" rel="nofollow">Youtube</a>: Players are forced to use magic in South African football </li></ul>

22. Spells and Soccer: The Secret Magic of African Football

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In the north of Rio de Janeiro, a drug lord and evangelical pastor has dominion over a series of favelas known as the ‘Israel Complex’. The streets are clean and building walls are painted with verses from Psalms… while religious minorities are persecuted and rival gang members are sent back to their homes in gift wrapped boxes. From Brazil to Texas to Romania and South Africa, the phenomenon of religiously-inspired gang leaders is becoming more and more common — and we explain why.Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a>Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a>Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a>

21. Gospel of the Gun: the story of church-run organized crime

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We’re joined by our friend Conner from the Propagandos podcast to talk about how the famously hardcore evangelical, anti-LGBT Chick-Fil-A empire has invested in an original content app and Trilith Studios, the second largest production lot in all of North America — home base for nearly every Marvel movie made since 2017.  The Cathy family, owners of the fast food chain, the aren’t the kind of people you’d usually associate with Hollywood — so what are they really up to? Check out Propagandos at <a href="https://rss.com/podcasts/propagandos/" rel="nofollow">https://rss.com/podcasts/propagandos/</a> and on Instagram: @Propagandospod Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a> Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a> Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a>

20. Fowl play: How Chick-fil-A's anti-LGBT owners are flocking to Hollywood

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On July 7, 2005, at 8:49 AM, three bombs detonated in three separate trains in the London Underground. How did Samantha Lewthwaite, the British wife of one of the suspects known as the White Widow, go on to become one of the world’s most wanted individuals for her roles in multiple terrorist attacks across several continents? Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a> Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a> Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a> <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

19. White Widow, black ops

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From 19th-century mentalists to multi-millionaires, we trace how a fringe theology promising health and wealth became a global juggernaut among evangelical Christians. Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a> Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a> Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a><hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

18. The prosperity gospel, or how jet fuel can’t melt golden calves

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Aamer takes us inside the Saudi social media phenomenon of &#39;free masked men&#39; — anonymous videos complaining about declining living standards and calling for the head of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. But like everything in the Kingdom, it may not be all that seems... Check out the videos here: <a href="https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/masked-saudi-youths-spark-online-movement-calling-end-crown-princes-rule" rel="nofollow">https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/masked-saudi-youths-spark-online-movement-calling-end-crown-princes-rule</a> Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a> Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a> Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a><hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

17. Public enemies: the free masked men of Saudi Arabia

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Recorded prior to the United States bombing Iran, in this episode Elle and Aamer discuss the history behind why American Christians have become so obsessed with defending the state of Israel — no matter the cost. Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a> Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a> Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a><hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

16. Head injuries and hellfire: a brief history of Christian Zionism

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Aamer and Elle are joined by journalist Gareth Gore, author of Opus, an expose on Opus Dei — a secretive, ultra-conservative Catholic sect — and its long history of cosying up to dictators, human trafficking, and siphoning billions of dollars from one of the world’s largest banks. Buy Gareth’s book here: <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Opus/Gareth-Gore/9781668016145" rel="nofollow">https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Opus/Gareth-Gore/9781668016145</a> Support us by signing up for our Substack at <a href="https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/</a> Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at <a href="mailto:helltopaypodcast@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">helltopaypodcast@gmail.com</a> Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</a><hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

15. Opus Dei & Opus Night: the life and crimes of the bizarre Catholic sect

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Reactionary nihilism, ideological world building, and kitty litters in classrooms: in this episode, journalist and author Katherine Stewart takes us inside the power center of American conservatives. Katherine&#39;s substack: https://substack.com/@katherinestewartbooksKatherine&#39;s latest book: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/money-lies-and-god-9781635578546/Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at helltopaypodcast@gmail.comTheme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

14. Reactionary nihilism: Katherine Stewart on the modern religious right

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<li>Why did Apollo Quiboloy, a charismatic preacher who claimed he could stop earthquakes by yelling at them, and with close ties to the former president and his daughter, the current vice president — stage a dramatic and violent siege at his compound? </li><li>And why did the Filipino government finally decide to arrest him after almost four decades of crimes?Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at helltopaypodcast@gmail.comTheme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies</li><hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

13. The siege of Glory Mountain: the preacher, the president, and the FBI

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Episode Description: In this episode of Hell to Pay, Sipho Hlongwane and Elle Hardy are joined by journalist and author Pontsho Pilane to unravel the rise — and flight — of Shepherd Bushiri, the self-proclaimed prophet turned fugitive. From prosperity preaching and financial fraud to allegations of sexual abuse, we explore how faith, wealth, and impunity collide in the megachurch era. Plus: how Bushiri fits into a broader African religious landscape shaped by power, inequality, and spiritual manipulation.Sources: <ul><li>Bushiris: How the couple fled South Africa for Malawi&#34; – <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54949819" rel="nofollow">BBC News</a></li><li>&#34;Bushiri faces additional charges after he fled SA – Minister Kubayi&#34; – <a href="https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/bushiri-faces-additional-charges-after-he-fled-sa-minister-kubayi/" rel="nofollow">SABC News</a>&#34;Bushiri&#39;s return to Malawi threatens relations with South Africa&#34; – <a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/11/15/bushiris-return-to-malawi-threatens-relations-with-south-africa" rel="nofollow">Al Jazeera</a></li><li>&#34;Shepherd Bushiri: Prophet or pretender?&#34; – <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42634112" rel="nofollow">BBC News</a>The prosperity gospel excuses poverty and its true causes in Africa&#34; – <a href="https://mg.co.za/africa/2022-01-13-the-prosperity-gospel-excuses-poverty-and-its-true-causes-in-africa/" rel="nofollow">Mail &amp; Guardian</a></li><li>&#34;When crime is cloaked as religion&#34; – <a href="https://mg.co.za/thought-leader/opinion/2023-05-31-when-crime-is-cloaked-as-religion/" rel="nofollow">Mail &amp; Guardian (Thought Leader)</a></li><li>&#34;Nigerian pastor Timothy Omotoso released from custody pending appeal against prohibited person decision&#34; – <a href="https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2025-05-13-nigerian-pastor-timothy-omotoso-released-from-custody-pending-appeal-against-prohibited-person-decision/" rel="nofollow">Daily Maverick</a></li></ul>Where to buy Pontsho’ book: <a href="https://www.nb.co.za/en/view-book?id=9780624093084" rel="nofollow">https://www.nb.co.za/en/view-book?id=9780624093084</a>  <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

12. Shepherd Bushiri – the fugitive pastor

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Suppose you are a fan of Cairo’s Al-Ahly football club. Your team, the most successful club in the world in terms of trophies won, but currently sits second in the league table, one point behind surprise contenders Haras El Hodood (“Border Guards”) Football Club. Next up is an away trip to Port Said to face Masry Football Club. Unlike other away matches, however, 72 Ahly fans will not make the return journey home. The utter carnage that happened at that match on Feb 1, 2012 was so horrifying it led to the suspension of the Egyptian Premier League for two years and raised many questions about the interim transitional government following Egypt’s Arab Spring in 2011, and the level of collusion between the state and the so called Masry ultras who ran riot during and after the match. Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Suggestions? Questions? Comments? You can find us at helltopaypodcast@gmail.com Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

11. The Port Said massacre and the death of the Egyptian Spring

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In May 1986, two of President Ronald Reagan’s National Security Council advisors, Oliver North and Robert “Bud” McFarlane touched down in Tehran on a secret diplomatic mission.  The event blew open what became known as the Iran-Contra affair, one of the greatest scandals in modern American history.  Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

10. Pistols, a Bible and chocolate cake: the bizarre story behind Iran-Contra

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After Roe v Wade legalized abortion in the United States in 1973, evangelicals have made it one of the most important conservative issues.At first, however, evangelicals supported the decision for a woman&#39;s right to chose — until a machiavellian conservative Catholic activist engineered the shift by making it about another issue entirely. Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

9. The real story behind the anti-abortion movement

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Teenagers, rock music, pentagrams... and a country on the brink of collapse. In this episode, we dig into one of the strangest moral panics in South African history — when fears of Satanism swept through churches, schools, and headlines during the final days of apartheid. But this wasn’t just about devil worship. It was about white fear, gender violence, and a society terrified of change. From American conspiracy theories to remote town exorcisms, we unpack how a global panic took on a very South African shape — and why its legacy still haunts us today. Sources:<li>Nicky Falkof (2012) ‘Satan has come to Rietfontein’: Race in South Africa&#39;s Satanic Panic, Journal of Southern African Studies, 38:4, 753-767, DOI:10.1080/03057070.2012.732290</li><li>Nicky Falkof (2017) “The devil destroyed us”: Satanism and gender violence in South Africa, Feminist Media Studies, 17:3, 426-439, DOI: 10.1080/14680777.2016.1235597</li><li>Danielle Dunbar &amp; Sandra Swart (2012) ‘No less a foe than Satan himself’: The Devil, Transition and Moral Panic in White South Africa, 1989–1993, Journal of Southern African Studies, 38:3, 601-621, DOI: 10.1080/03057070.2012.719688</li>Collins, L. (2024, January 11). The strange origins of the Satanic Panic: How one Canadian book started a worldwide witch hunt. CBC. https://www.cbc.ca/arts/satan-wants-you-filmmakers-q-a-sean-horlor-steve-j-adams-1.6822213 Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies<hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

8. The fall of Apartheid and South Africa's satanic panic

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United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories chemist Frank Olson was found dead in suspicious circumstances after being covertly dosed with LSD.  Just how deep does knowledge of his death go? Will his family able to find justice? And why the hell did the CIA send him to see a magician?  Support us by signing up for our Substack at https://helltopaypodcast.substack.com/ Theme music: War Machine (The Purpose of a System Is What It Does) by Sister Ray Davies. Check them out: https://www.instagram.com/sisterraydavies <hr> Hosted on Acast. See <a href="https://acast.com/privacy" rel="nofollow">acast.com/privacy</a> for more information.

7. Alice in Ultraland Pt 2: the mysterious death of a CIA scientist

God forgives. Podcasters do not.

Aamer, Elle and Sipho explore spiritually motivated crime and conflict.<hr>