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Season 5, Episode 7: Can a "Mean Girl" Become a Saint?

Season 5 | Episode 7
36m | Jul 1, 2026

This week Faith Fondue features the book Pray For Us: 75 Saints Who Sinned, Suffered, and Struggled on Their Way to Holiness, written by Notre Dame alumna Meg Hunter-Kilmer and introduced to us last episode after Anne attended a retreat on campus featuring the book and the author.

What's the difference between Saint, Servant of God, Venerable, and Blessed? Not much in Pray For Us, as Hunter-Kilmer shares remarkable stories of ordinary people at each stage of sainthood.

Haley and Anne discuss this "ordinariness" (we are all ordinary) and how one does not have to be extraordinary to be holy (with a side bar conversation about Stevie Nicks.) Sound complicated? Tune in to hear more. And pick up Pray For Us to read how a mean girl and an alcoholic both become saints.

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