53. "Final" Judgment(s); The Universalist-impulse, Exaltation(s), and the sons of perdition

1h 21m | Dec 25, 2023

In this episode, Brendon and Skyler discuss the fifty-second lesson in the LDS Come, Follow Me sunday school manual. This week (December 25-31) is titled “He that Overcometh Shall Inherit All Things” and covers Revelation 15-22. 

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Pastor Brendon's Colossians series can be found here and/or here


Seminary Manual: here, here and here 

  • “Help students discover that “the spirit of prophecy” (verse 10) refers to the gift of revelation and inspiration from God, which allows us to receive and speak His word.” 

Gospel Principles and here, here and here 

1 Nephi 10.20-21, 14.7,10; 2 Nephi 9.46; Mosiah 3.11,19, 4.30, 5.15, 24, 15.25; Alma 5.39, 11.34-44, 12.12-14, 27, 28.11-12, 34.33-35, 42.10; Mormon 3.20; 3 Nephi 26.4-5, 27.33; Moroni 8.22 

D&C 11; 19; 29; 38; 45; 58; 68; 76; 82; 88; 128; 130; 131; 132; 133; 137 

“Celestial Kingdom”  

The Words of Joseph Smith edited by Andrew Ehat and Lyndon Cook 

  • “No man is a minister of Jesus Christ without being a prophet. No man can be a minister of Jesus Christ except he has the testimony of Jesus, and this is the spirit of prophecy. Whenever salvation has been administered it has been by testimony.” (p.10) 
  • “Now if any man has the testimony of Jesus, has he not the spirit of prophecy? And if he has the spirit of prophecy, I ask, is he not a prophet? And if a prophet, he can receive revelation. And any man that does not receive revelation for himself must be damned, for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” (p. 230) 

Joseph Smith: here and here 

The Articles of Faith by James Talmage 

“Divine Love” (Russell Nelson) 

“My Words...Never Cease” (Jeffrey Holland) 

Statements of the LDS First Presidency, edited by Gary Bergera: 

  • “According to the light we receive, so shall we be judged; the Lord will not hold us responsible for what we have had no opportunity of learning and His mercies will be extended to those who do not know the law.” (Joseph F. Smith to William A. Smith, Jan. 23, 1903; p. 244) 


The New Testament Made Easier by David Ridges 

Doctrinal New Testament Commentary; Mormon Doctrine by Bruce R. McConkie 

The Revelation of John the Apostle by Richard Draper and Michael Rhodes 

“The Redemption of the Dead: A Latter-day Saint Perspective on the Fate of the Unevangelized” by David Paulsen 

Joseph Smith the Prophet by Truman Madsen 

  • “To those who argued that there was no such thing as prophecy, anceint or modern, he would say (quoting John in Revelation 19:10): ‘The New Testament says that the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. I am a servant of Jesus Christ. I have a testimony of Jesus. Therefore, I am a prophet.’ Occasionally, he tied his enemies into a logical paradox. He would say, ‘Have you discovered that there is no revelation? How?’ They would say, ‘Does not the Bible end all revelation?’ He would reply, ‘If so, there is a great defect in the book or it would have said so.’ Pointing out that it takes revelation to know that there will be no more revelation, he once asked, ‘Have ye turned revelators? Then why deny revelation?’” 

Brigham Young: JD 4.220 ; "Discourse on Marriage" 

Heber C. Kimball: JD 7.236 


A Treatise on Atonement by Hosea Ballou 

Jason Wallace: here and here 

Mormonism: Shadow or Reality? by Sandra and Jerald Tanner 

“This is My Doctrine”: The Development of Mormon Theology by Charles Harrell 

The Mound Builder Myth by Jason Colavito 

“Anti-Universalist Rhetoric in the Book of Mormon” by Dan Vogel; found in New Approaches to the Book of Mormon, edited by Brent Metcalfe 


Christianity and Liberalism by J. Gresham Machen 

The Joy of Hearing; Revelation (BECNT) by Thomas Schreiner 

The Book of Revelation (NIGTC) by G.K. Beale 

The Returning King by Vern Poythress 

Triumph of the Lamb by Dennis Johnson 

All Things New by Brian Tabb 

The Question of Canon; Canon Revisited by Michael Kruger 

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