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Brazil’s renewable energy is being exploited to justify unnecessary data center construction. Laís Martins joins Paris Marx to discuss why the renewable energy sector is behind a rise in Brazilian data center development, how this is impacting communities, and the ways this greenwashing is redirecting funding away from more socially progressive projects.Laís Martins is a technology reporter at The Intercept Brasil. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Brazil’s Data Center Boom is Enabled by Renewables Firms w/ Laís Martins / Tech Won't Save Us

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Danny and Derek welcome back to the show Rashid Khalidi, Edward Said Professor Emeritus of Modern Arab Studies at Columbia University and author of Palestine: A Primer, to talk about changes in the regional and political landscape of Palestine since October 7. They discuss adapting The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine for a younger audience, the devastation of Gaza, Hamas’s October 7 strategy and its miscalculations, the Biden administration’s support for Israel, changes in the Middle East after the war with Iran, shifting American attitudes toward Israel and Palestine, the prospects for Palestinian resistance, and the destruction of Gaza’s cultural and historical heritage.Be sure to grab a copy of <a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250376060/palestineaprimer/" rel="nofollow">Palestine: A Primer</a>, an adaptation of The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine aimed toward a younger audience. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Palestine Three Years After October 7 w/ Rashid Khalidi / American Prestige

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The real threat of AI is not the destruction of humanity, but rather replacing human labor with machines—that’s what Garrison Lovely argues. He’s the author of Obsolete: The AI Industry’s Trillion Dollar Race to Replace Us—and How to Stop It.Also: Our right to peaceful protest is under assault. To save it, we need to “respect it, defend it, and more than anything – use it.” that’s what Annie Leonard says - she’s a longtime activist who spent 17 years with Greenpeace USA, then she helped launch the Jane Fonda Climate PAC. And she’s co-author of the new book, “Protest.” Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

AI: What is to be Done?  plus Protest Under Assault / Start Making Sense

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Staten Island is often referred to—by its inhabitants—as the Forgotten Borough of New York City. But who knew that in the 1990s, Staten Islanders literally tried to secede. Our guest this week, Ben Naddaff-Hafrey, is a journalist and senior producer for the Revisionist History podcast, and he’s created a brilliant new series called The Staten Island Problem that tells the history of this moment when New York City almost came apart.Ben sees this story as an early example of the politics of resentment that dominates America today. To understand Staten Island is to understand the communities across our country that feel forgotten and disrespected, whose resentments Trump rode to power.Oh, and obviously we also talk about how Staten Island—or Shaolin, as they call it—explains the Wu-Tang Clan, which totally fits perfectly well with the other themes and definitely isn’t just shoehorned in because it’s super interesting.To get started on Ben’s series: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revisionist-history/id1119389968?i=1000776007729" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revisionist-history/id1119389968?i=1000776007729</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Does Staten Island Explain the Trump Age? w/ Ben Naddaff-Hafrey / Fighting Fascism

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Many of Joe Biden’s closest advisors are now well-ensconced in the sinecures reserved for the elite, working at think tanks, academia, and major media outlets. Normally, they could expect to have future jobs when the Democrats retake the White House. But this cozy situation is being disrupted by ongoing reporting showing the extent of their complicity in the Gaza genocide and other US crimes in the Middle East. I spoke about this with Connor Echols, managing editor of Responsible Statecraft, who wrote <a href="https://responsiblestatecraft.org/biden-gaza-scapegoat/" rel="nofollow">an excellent article</a> on the efforts to hold these officials accountable. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Gaza and Elite Accountability w/ Connor Echols / The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer

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“National security has always explicitly been about fossil fuels.”The U.S. military is the world’s largest institutional consumer of fossil fuels—and one of the largest sources of environmental destruction. Yet its role in the climate crisis is rarely part of mainstream climate or environmental justice conversations. In this episode of A People’s Climate, host Shilpi Chhotray talks with independent journalist and documentary filmmaker Abby Martin about why meaningful climate action must confront militarism.As military spending rises and wars continue to devastate communities and ecosystems, the connections between war, fossil fuels, and environmental destruction are becoming harder to ignore. Martin traces how military power has shaped the climate crisis, from the toxic legacy of U.S. military bases to the destruction of land and water in Hawaiʻi and the environmental costs of modern warfare. She and Shilpi also explore why climate and anti-war movements have so often operated separately—and what it could look like to build a broader movement capable of confronting both systems.<h3>Key Topics</h3><ul><li>War &amp; fossil fuels: How fossil fuel extraction, U.S. military power, and global war are deeply intertwined.</li><li>The environmental cost of war: The carbon emissions, toxic rubble, contaminated soil and water, and ecosystem destruction left behind by modern warfare.</li><li>Military pollution: The toxic waste and contamination generated by U.S. military bases, including the devastating legacy of Camp Lejeune.</li><li>Hawaiʻi &amp; militarism: How colonization and militarization have turned Hawaiʻi into a military playground, with lasting impacts on Indigenous land, water, and communities—including the Red Hill fuel spill.</li><li>RIMPAC: What Abby Martin witnessed at the world’s largest international maritime military exercise—and its impact on Hawaiʻi’s land and ocean ecosystems.</li><li>War &amp; wildlife: How military sonar, weapons testing, and munitions damage marine life and leave pollution that can persist for generations.</li><li>Connecting movements: Why climate and anti-war movements need to break out of their silos to confront the systems driving both crises.</li><li>Building power: How divestment, grassroots organizing, labor action, and community resistance can challenge militarism and corporate power.</li></ul><h3> </h3><h3>Resources to Explore</h3><ul><li><a href="https://earthsgreatestenemy.com/" rel="nofollow">Earth’s Greatest Enemy</a></li><li><a href="https://empirefiles.tv/" rel="nofollow">The Empire Files</a></li><li><a href="https://www.peaceandriot.org/water-protectors-rise-up" rel="nofollow">Water Protectors Rise Up:</a> Native Hawaiian resistance in the wake of the Red Hill disaster</li><li><a href="https://www.peaceandriot.org/collateral-of-the-permanent-war" rel="nofollow">Collateral of the Permanent War:</a> How &#39;national security&#39; made communities and ecosystems disposable</li></ul><h3> </h3><h3>Credits</h3>Presented by Counterstream Media and The NationPowered by Wildseeds FundHost: Shilpi ChhotrayExecutive Producer: Mindy Ramaker Engineer: Ameeta GanatraProject Manager: Asia Simms<h3> </h3><h3>Abby Martin</h3> Abby Martin is an investigative journalist, filmmaker, and founder of The Empire Files, an independent video series exposing U.S. imperialism and its global consequences. She directed the widely acclaimed Gaza Fights for Freedom (2019) and Earth’s Greatest Enemy (2026), a groundbreaking investigation into the U.S. military’s devastating environmental footprint and its role in the global climate crisis. Her uncompromising style has made her a standard-bearer of advocacy journalism and one of the most prominent figures in alternative media. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Earth's Greatest Enemy w/ Abby Martin / A People's Climate

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As Derek completes the final phase of his vision quest, Alex Jordan of the<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLP3oFXQU9footIdJdsRRRBawqoexE4qW" rel="nofollow"> Always at War</a> podcast fills in once more. In this week’s news: U.S.-Iran talks stall over the order of concessions (1:28); Gulf oil exports return to prewar levels (4:34); Netanyahu uses an attempted seizure of a FlyDubai flight to reinforce his agenda as an election approaches (11:15); in Iraq, the U.S. ends its counter-ISIS mission (16:06); Pete Hegseth launches Project Meridian to study the “future of warfare” (21:35); Trump hosts tech leaders who pledge “tremendous” self-regulation (24:49); British police arrest five men near RAF Fairford amid claims of Iranian involvement (27:23); U.S. intelligence says Saudi Arabia is keeping a nuclear weapons option open (30:06); Russia warns NATO of a nuclear response if Kaliningrad faces a blockade (33:09); Germany’s foreign minister meets Russia’s foreign minister as Russian attacks hit Ukraine’s energy grid (37:27); and Brazil prepares for a presidential election between Lula and Flávio Bolsonaro (41:13). Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

US-Iran Talks Stall, Russia Nuclear Warning, Brazil Election / American Prestige

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Tech companies are working with the fossil fuel industry to push unnecessary data center projects while misrepresenting the climate impact — and governments are letting it all happen. Ketan Joshi joins Paris Marx to discuss how the data center buildout is driving a surge in fossil fuel investment, and how it’s all playing out in Australia.Ketan Joshi is a climate writer and data analyst based in Oslo working with climate and environmental groups. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The AI Buildout is a Boon for the Fossil Fuel Industry w/ Ketan Joshi / Tech Won't Save Us

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Leah Greenberg, co-executive director of Indivisible, answers the question, “What’s the Plan -- for the next No Kings Nationwide Day of Action?” This one shifts from mass protest in the streets to organizing for early voting – and preparing for whatever Trump does to disrupt or undermine the vote, the count, and the certification.Also: The Supreme Court last Friday issued an order allowing states to use Trump’s SAVE database to purge their voter rolls of people the DHS considers ineligible – but it’s too late to apply to the midterms. Rick Hasen explains – he teaches law at UCLA and he’s Director of the Safeguarding Democracy Project and editor of the Election Law Blog.   Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The Plan for No Kings-Vote Early Day, plus The Supremes and Trump’s voter list purge / Start Making Sense

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Last week, we spoke with campaign manager Ben Shanahan about David Morales’s winning strategy in his successful campaign for Providence mayor. Today, we have a very different conversation with Jenn Steinfeld, David’s field director, about how they built the grassroots operation that knocked proportionately more doors than Zohran’s, without burning anyone out. It turns out campaigns really can run field the right way and win. Let’s do it more often! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

How David Morales Won (Part 2) w/ Jenn Steinfeld / Fighting Fascism

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My Nation colleague Kate Wagner has <a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/obama-presidential-center/" rel="nofollow">written a brilliant critical essay</a> on the Obama Center, which just opened in Chicago. I talk to her about how the history of presidential libraries, a now anachronistic form as well as the controversies surrounding the Obama Center’s displacement of public space and the dissatisfying way it memorializes the Obama presidency. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The Obama Center as a Tomb of Neoliberalism w/ Kate Wagner / The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer

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A People’s Climate is back for Season 2. Host Shilpi Chhotray takes you inside the fight for climate and environmental justice with organizers, legal experts, filmmakers, and movement leaders challenging the corporate and political forces blocking real change — from Big Oil and militarism to over-policing and the Supreme Court. This is essential listening for anyone serious about building a mass climate movement.New episodes every Saturday starting Oct 3, 2026.Guests this season include:<ul><li>LaTricea Adams - Founder and CEO of Young, Gifted &amp; Green</li><li>Brea Baker - Writer, Activist and Author of ROOTED: The American Legacy of Land Theft &amp; The Modern Movement for Black Land Ownership</li><li>Dr. Hatem Bazian - Decolonial scholar, professor at UC Berkeley, author, and activist</li><li>John Beard Jr. - Founder and CEO of the Port Arthur Community Action Network</li><li>Nalleli Cobo - Environmental Activist and Co-Founder of South Central Youth Leadership Coalition</li><li>Kamau Franklin - Founder of Community Movement Builders</li><li>U.S. Representative Maxwell Alejandro Frost - Florida’s 10th Congressional District</li><li>Abby Martin - Investigative journalist, Director of Earth’s Greatest Enemy, and founder of The Empire Files</li><li>Elie Mystal - Justice Correspondent for The Nation</li><li>Sean Sherman - Chef and Founder of Indígena by Owamni and North American Traditional Indigenous Food Systems</li><li>And more to be announced.</li></ul> ﻿CreditsPresented by Counterstream Media and The NationPowered by Wildseeds FundHost: Shilpi ChhotrayExecutive Producer: Mindy Ramaker Engineer: Dennis MaxwellProject Manager: Asia Simms Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Trailer / A People’s Climate Season 2

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Danny and Derek talk with <a href="https://www.noamscheiberauthor.com/" rel="nofollow">Noam Scheiber</a>, New York Times reporter and author, about the radicalization of American college graduates. They discuss a Starbucks union campaign, underemployment among recent grads, the Taylorization of white-collar jobs, AI, corporate fixation on labor costs, the “con” of college for millennials, and the collapse of meritocracy.Buy your copy of Noam’s book on the subject, <a href="https://www.noamscheiberauthor.com/book" rel="nofollow">Mutiny: The Rise and Revolt of the College-Educated Working Class</a>. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Mutiny of the College-Educated Worker w/ Noam Scheiber / American Prestige

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The primary force behind the settlement that will allow Trump’s allies at Paramount to take over Warners-Discovery and CNN was Gavin Newsom, who pressured California Attorney General Rob Bonta to end the anti-trust fight defending media independence. Norm Eisen explains – he’s co-founder and executive chair of the Democracy Defenders Fund and Democracy Defenders Action, and, the New York Times reported, “the leader of a coalition of entertainment and news industry professionals who opposed the deal.”Also: After Trump banned CNN, MS NOW and Politico from the White House newsroom, the TV networks united in refusing coverage of his events – including Fox News. John Nichols has our analysis. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Norm Eisen on the Paramount-Warners Merger, plus Trump and TV News / Start Making Sense

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Two weeks ago, 28-year-old democratic socialist David Morales defeated Providence&#39;s incumbent mayor Brett Smiley in the latest electrifying win for the Democratic Party&#39;s populist wing. But how did it happen? And how can it be repeated? In the first episode of this two-parter, Aaron and Matt talk to David&#39;s campaign manager Ben Shanahan about the message, strategy, and tactics that powered this insurgent victory. Next week, we expand this conversation with David&#39;s field director, Jenn Steinfeld, who gives a window into what it looks like to combine electoral campaigns with movement building. For more analysis on David&#39;s win, see Aaron&#39;s piece in The Nation: <a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/david-morales-mayor-race-providence-rhode-island/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/david-morales-mayor-race-providence-rhode-island/</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

How David Morales Won: Part 1 w/ Ben Shanahan / Fighting Fascism

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My Nation colleague Joan Walsh <a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/jon-ossoff-senate-georgia-voting-rights/" rel="nofollow">recently profiled</a> Georgia Senator Jon Ossoff for the magazine. Georgia is very much a purple state. The fact that Ossoff won there and stands a good chance at re-election is evidence of his political talent, turning him into an increasingly prominent national figure. Joan and I talked about Ossoff’s background and the long struggle to transform Georgia, a formerly red state where Democrats are making headway. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Jon Ossoff and the Georgia Battleground w/ Joan Walsh / The Time of Monsters with Jeet Heer

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Derek has journeyed to Bolivia seeking contact with <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/17/new-cat-species-identified-bolivia" rel="nofollow">the newly discovered cat species</a>, so Alex Jordan of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLP3oFXQU9footIdJdsRRRBawqoexE4qW" rel="nofollow">Always at War</a> steps in to bring you the headlines. This week: in New Delhi, BRICS member states issue a fractured joint statement on restraint in the Middle East (1:12); Iran strikes a U.S.-contracted vessel near the Strait of Hormuz (5:42); a cyberattack disables Texas-bound tankers (8:30); a new Pentagon report puts the Iran war’s cost at $33.4 billion (9:59); the Houthis/Ansar Allah advance in Taiz and hit Saudi Arabia (14:46); Yemeni government forces strike back while the U.S. rules out direct involvement (19:00); China pushes Iran to restrain the Houthis (22:37); an Israeli strike collapses a building in Gaza City, killing at least 21 people (25:12); the U.S. approves a $2.8 billion weapons sale to Israel (27:34); Russia and Ukraine strike each other’s energy infrastructure (30:57); the House passes a Russia sanctions bill named in honor of Lindsey Graham (33:37); a banking scandal roils Brazil’s presidential race (37:53); and in Sweden, a left-wing bloc narrowly wins an election (41:12).  Don’t forget to grab your copy of Danny’s new book <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/imperialist-realism-politics-and-culture-at-the-end-of-the-american-century-daniel-bessner/3b8e11ba22fb375c" rel="nofollow">Imperialist Realism</a>. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Houthis Escalate Red Sea Conflict, Pentagon Report on Iran War Costs, BRICS Summit Exposes Divisions / American Prestige

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Danny and Derek welcome back Akbar Shahid Ahmed, Diplomatic correspondent for The Washington Sun and author of <a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324118190" rel="nofollow">Crossing the Red Line: Biden, His Advisors, and Israel’s War on Gaza</a>, to talk about the Biden administration’s role in enabling the genocide in Gaza. They discuss the conditions in the Strip as of the current day; Biden’s small inner circle of Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, and Brett McGurk; Jack Lew’s role of ambassador and the dubious war crime review process he implemented; the Rafah red line and its immediate collapse after Israel invaded; and the Democratic Party’s domestic political miscalculations heading into 2024 and 2028.   Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The Biden Administration’s Complicity in Gaza w/ Akbar Shahid Ahmed / American Prestige

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Only two Justices backed Trump in the Court’s ruling blocking his efforts to enlist the postal service in restricting voting by mail in the midterms. David Cole explains why this is a huge victory, but far from the end of Trump’s effforts to undermine Democratic voting.Also: The blue state attorneys general have succeeded in blocking the efforts of Trump’s allies at Paramount-Skydance from taking over Warners-Discovery, at least for now, but their lawsuit followed months of protests organized by, among others, Jane Fonda’s Committee for the First Amendment. Rashad Robinson has our analysis – his new book is From Presence to Power: How to take on the Fights that Matter – and Win. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The Supremes say ‘No” to Trump on Mail Voting, plus the Paramount-Warner Merger Fight / Start Making Sense

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Yotam Marom has been helping build movements—and many of the most important movement organizations—for the last 20 years. His new book, For Louder Days: Reaching Beyond a Politics of Powerlessness, is an essential read for everyone on the left who wants to win a better world.Yotam, who became an organizing leader in Occupy Wall Street alongside Jonathan approximately a million years ago, joined us to talk about the left&#39;s conflicted relationship to power, leadership, identity, and strategy. We discuss how and why movements too often get in our own way, turn on each other, and play small, and talk through the big shifts we need to make if we hope to win the big battles ahead. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Overcoming the Left’s Politics of Powerlessness w/ Yotam Marom / Fighting Fascism

Political talk without the boring parts, featuring the writers, activists and artists who shape the week in news. Hosted by Jon Wiener and presented by The Nation Magazine.