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#005: Why We Run From Love—and How to Stop with John Kim and Vanessa Bennett

Episode 5
8m | Apr 29, 2025

In this solo episode, I sit down with real-life couple and therapists Jon Kim and Vanessa Bennett to unpack the messy, beautiful reality of modern relationships. From rocky beginnings and one-foot-out-the-door moments to learning how to see beauty in our differences, we explore what it takes to truly do life with someone—not at or around them. We talk about avoidant tendencies, attachment triggers, and how old wounds show up in conflict, all while keeping it raw, real, and deeply human. Whether you’re single, dating, or deep in partnership, this episode will have you reflecting hard and laughing a little too.

Links:

John's Instagram: www.instagram.com/theangrytherapist

Vanessa's Instagram: www.instagram.com/vanessasbennett

CTL Links:

Website: www.createthelove.com

CTL Community: www.createthelove.com/community

Mark's Book: www.markgroves.com/book

Get our Relationship Toolkit: How to Thrive in Your Relationships: https://markgroves.com/relationshipmastery

—How are your Nervous System + Attachment Style connected? https://markgroves.com/connectthedots

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