Hope Is A Plan
16m | Sep 22, 2026On this episode of Change Starts Here: Research Conversations, hosts Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller dive into a two-part research series on why setting big goals and visualizing success often falls short. Dr. Miller breaks down C.R. Snyder’s science-backed definition of hope, which hinges on having both actionable pathways and a sense of personal agency, and explains why relying solely on positive thinking can actually backfire.
Drawing on Gabriele Oettingen’s research, the episode highlights a surprising twist: daydreaming about success without addressing reality can lower your blood pressure and drain the physiological motivation needed to get things done. To bridge that gap, Kim and Eve walk through the WOOP framework (Wish, Outcome, Obstacle, Plan). You'll learn how to use "mental contrasting" to spot the internal hurdles holding you back and pair them with simple "if-then" plans to make your school-year goals actually stick.
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Hosts:
Kim Yaris, Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education
Dr. Eve Miller, Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education
Time Stamps & Show Notes:
00:00 Visualizing Success Delays Offers
00:46 Setting vs Achieving Goals
01:51 C.R. Snyder's Two-Part Hope
03:23 Identifying the Goal Execution Gap
04:19 Hope Predicts Academic Performance
05:22 Why Vision Boards Backfire
06:20 The Pitfalls of Positive Fantasies
07:06 Blood Pressure and Motivation Drops
08:38 Mental Contrasting Strategy Revealed
09:24 Explaining WOOP Acronym Framework
09:38 Urban Middle School WOOP Study
10:06 Defining Wish and Expected Outcome
11:06 Identifying Internal Personal Obstacles
12:30 Creating If-Then Execution Plans
13:27 Applying WOOP in School Leadership
14:35 Action Steps for the Week
