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Hope Is A Plan

16m | Sep 22, 2026

On this episode of Change Starts Here: Research Conversations, hosts Kim Yaris and Dr. Eve Miller dive into a two-part research series on why setting big goals and visualizing success often falls short. Dr. Miller breaks down C.R. Snyder’s science-backed definition of hope, which hinges on having both actionable pathways and a sense of personal agency, and explains why relying solely on positive thinking can actually backfire.

Drawing on Gabriele Oettingen’s research, the episode highlights a surprising twist: daydreaming about success without addressing reality can lower your blood pressure and drain the physiological motivation needed to get things done. To bridge that gap, Kim and Eve walk through the WOOP framework (Wish, Outcome, Obstacle, Plan). You'll learn how to use "mental contrasting" to spot the internal hurdles holding you back and pair them with simple "if-then" plans to make your school-year goals actually stick.

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Hosts: 

Kim Yaris, Associate Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education 

Dr. Eve Miller, Director of Research with FranklinCovey Education 


Time Stamps & Show Notes:

00:00 Visualizing Success Delays Offers

00:46 Setting vs Achieving Goals

01:51 C.R. Snyder's Two-Part Hope

03:23 Identifying the Goal Execution Gap

04:19 Hope Predicts Academic Performance

05:22 Why Vision Boards Backfire

06:20 The Pitfalls of Positive Fantasies

07:06 Blood Pressure and Motivation Drops

08:38 Mental Contrasting Strategy Revealed

09:24 Explaining WOOP Acronym Framework

09:38 Urban Middle School WOOP Study

10:06 Defining Wish and Expected Outcome

11:06 Identifying Internal Personal Obstacles

12:30 Creating If-Then Execution Plans

13:27 Applying WOOP in School Leadership

14:35 Action Steps for the Week


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