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Lula's Standing Up To Trump Is Real

28m | Jul 30, 2026

As the October presidential election heats up, Brazil's Lula da Silva is striking a defiant tone against Donald Trump. Unfazed by new U.S. tariffs, Lula has declared he’ll fight back with a "war of truth," warning Trump’s protectionist measures are a "strategic mistake" that will hurt both economies . Lula insists he doesn't want a fight, but he won't accept external pressure .


Meanwhile, Lula's political future looks promising. Polls consistently show him leading his main rival, Senator Flavio Bolsonaro, in a potential runoff for the October election . With Lula framing the U.S. trade pressure as foreign interference, it's becoming a central theme in his bid for reelection.


Guest Info: Dr. Marcus Vinicius De Freitas is Senior Fellow at Policy Center for the New South, focusing on International Law, International Relations and Brazil, and is currently a Visiting Professor of International Law and International Relations at China Foreign Affairs University in Beijing, China. Previously, he was a Professor of The Armando Alvares Penteado Foundation in Sao Paulo, where he served as the coordinator of their International Relations Program from December 2012 until December 2013.

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