Back Points is a podcast about how to win a high school wrestling state championship. Each episode features an interview with a wrestler or a coach who has won a state title, and talks about their wrestling journey.

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In this episode of Back Points, the great Victor Jackson discusses his wrestling career, as well as how his team succeeded in winning a state title against intense competition.

In this episode of Back Points, the great Victor Jackson discusses his wrestling career, as well as how his team succeeded in winning a state title against intense competition.

Episode 27: Victor Jackson

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In this episode, 3x State Champion Steve Keleher discusses his journey in wrestling.

In this episode, 3x State Champion Steve Keleher discusses his journey in wrestling.

Episode 26: Steve Keleher

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In episode #25, we hear from Tass Robertson, who was a state champion as well as the coach of many state champions from Grundy High School.

In episode #25, we hear from Tass Robertson, who was a state champion as well as the coach of many state champions from Grundy High School.

Episode 25: Tass Robertson

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Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! (<a href="https://buddyleejumpropes.com" rel="nofollow">buddyleejumpropes.com</a>). Today&#39;s episode is the first ever repeat guest, as we brought back Bubba Jenkins, who is fresh off his win over Lance Palmer in the Professional Fighters League match, and one step closer to winning the $1,000,000 prize. Bubba talks about his mentality before and during a fight, how he feels about fighting against other wrestlers, and what&#39;s next in store for him.

Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! (buddyleejumpropes.com).

Today's episode is the first ever repeat guest, as we brought back Bubba Jenkins, who is fresh off his win over Lance Palmer in the Professional Fighters League match, and one step closer to winning the $1,000,000 prize. Bubba talks about his mentality before and during a fight, how he feels about fighting against other wrestlers, and what's next in store for him.

Bubba Jenkins Returns to Back Points

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Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! (<a href="https://buddyleejumpropes.com" rel="nofollow">buddyleejumpropes.com</a>). Today&#39;s episode is with Jackson Turley, who talks about his journey from a youth wrestler, to a 4x state champion and 1x national prep champion, as well as earning a place on the podium as a D1 All-American his sophomore year at Rutgers in 2021!

Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! (buddyleejumpropes.com).

Today's episode is with Jackson Turley, who talks about his journey from a youth wrestler, to a 4x state champion and 1x national prep champion, as well as earning a place on the podium as a D1 All-American his sophomore year at Rutgers in 2021! 

Jackson Turley, 4x State Champion at St. Christopher's (2016-2019)

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Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! (buddyleejumpropes.com). Today’s episode is with Mark Strickland, who talks about beginning his wrestling journey as an eight grader, and becoming a 2x state champion at Great Bridge High School, as well as a High School All-American, a JUCO National Champion, and one of the top youth and high school wrestling coaches in the country.

Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! (buddyleejumpropes.com). Today’s episode is with Mark Strickland, who talks about beginning his wrestling journey as an eight grader, and becoming a 2x state champion at Great Bridge High School, as well as a High School All-American, a JUCO National Champion, and one of the top youth and high school wrestling coaches in the country.

Mark Strickland, 2x State Champion from Great Bridge HS

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Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! (<a href="https://buddyleejumpropes.com/" rel="nofollow">buddyleejumpropes.com</a>). Today’s episode is with Tim Foley, who tells the story of going from the state finals in Virginia, to becoming an All-American and the second winningest wrestler in UVA history! Let’s get rolling!

Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! (buddyleejumpropes.com).

﻿Today’s episode is with Tim Foley, who tells the story of going from the state finals in Virginia, to becoming an All-American and the second winningest wrestler in UVA history! Let’s get rolling!

Tim Foley, UVA All-American

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Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! (<a href="https://buddyleejumpropes.com" rel="nofollow">buddyleejumpropes.com</a>). Today&#39;s episode is with Bubba &#34;Bad Man&#34; Jenkins, who tells the story of an amazing journey from Cox High School, where he was a state champion, to the top of the podium as an NCAA champion, and now to fighting for 7-figure prizes as a professional MMA fighter. He talks about his vision for success, how his vision evolved, setbacks he encountered along the way, and the high points of an outstanding career.

Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! (buddyleejumpropes.com).

Today's episode is with Bubba "Bad Man" Jenkins, who tells the story of an amazing journey from Cox High School, where he was a state champion, to the top of the podium as an NCAA champion, and now to fighting for 7-figure prizes as a professional MMA fighter. He talks about his vision for success, how his vision evolved, setbacks he encountered along the way, and the high points of an outstanding career. 

Bubba Jenkins, 2004 State Champion, Cox High School

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Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! https://buddyleejumpropes.com/ Today&#39;s episode is with John Hanrahan, a 2x state champion from Falls Church High School, the veteran World Champion, 2x All American for Penn State, world famous fashion model, and author of the book Wrestling with Angels , available now from Amazon! https://www.amazon.com/Wrestling-Angels-Addiction-Resurrection-Celebrities/dp/1644281147

Back Points is sponsored by Buddy Lee Jump Ropes, so go get your jump rope from Buddy Lee! Use the promo code backpoints20 for 20% off your order! https://buddyleejumpropes.com/

Today's episode is with John Hanrahan, a 2x state champion from Falls Church High School, the veteran World Champion, 2x All American for Penn State, world famous fashion model, and author of the book Wrestling with Angels , available now from Amazon! https://www.amazon.com/Wrestling-Angels-Addiction-Resurrection-Celebrities/dp/1644281147

John Hanrahan, 2x State Champion, Falls Church HS, 1977 & 1978

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Next up is Charley Schollaert, the 1990 state champion from Yorktown High School (my alma mater). Charley talks about his wrestling career that started that started in the 2nd grade, and culminated with winning the state finals by pin. Enjoy the episode!

Next up is Charley Schollaert, the 1990 state champion from Yorktown High School (my alma mater). Charley talks about his wrestling career that started that started in the 2nd grade, and culminated with winning the state finals by pin. Enjoy the episode!

Charley Schollaert, 1990 State Champion, Yorktown High School

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Today’s episode is with the one and only, Buddy Lee. Buddy Lee has a long list of accomplishments: he’s an entrepreneur and inventor, who has sold millions of jump ropes worldwide. He’s a Marine. He’s an Olympian.  And before all of that took place, he was a state wrestling champion from Highland Springs High School in Virginia.  I hope you enjoy this episode half as much as I enjoyed making it! And when you are done, you should visit BuddyLeeJumpRopes.com and get yourself a jump rope!

Today’s episode is with the one and only, Buddy Lee. Buddy Lee has a long list of accomplishments: he’s an entrepreneur and inventor, who has sold millions of jump ropes worldwide. He’s a Marine. He’s an Olympian. 

And before all of that took place, he was a state wrestling champion from Highland Springs High School in Virginia.  

I hope you enjoy this episode half as much as I enjoyed making it! And when you are done, you should visit BuddyLeeJumpRopes.com and get yourself a jump rope!

Buddy Lee, 1977 State Champion, Highland Springs HS

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Today we are speaking with Bruce Fowler, who won the state tournament for Great Bridge High School in 1997. Bruce talks about why he thinks Coach Steve Martin is a great man, one of the books that most influenced him, how Great Bridge built such a dominant program, and he also talks about one match that hit him hard, and how he bounced back from it. Enjoy the episode!

Today we are speaking with Bruce Fowler, who won the state tournament for Great Bridge High School in 1997. Bruce talks about why he thinks Coach Steve Martin is a great man, one of the books that most influenced him, how Great Bridge built such a dominant program, and he also talks about one match that hit him hard, and how he bounced back from it. Enjoy the episode!

Bruce Fowler, 1997 State Champion, Great Bridge High School

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In today’s episode of Back Points, we sit down with Blake Roulo, the Head Coach of the <a href="https://averettcougars.com/sports/wrestling/roster" rel="nofollow">Averett University Cougars</a>, who describes a fascinating wrestling journey that includes: <ul><li>Getting pinned 10 times in a row in at the holiday duals in middle school,</li><li>Losing an important friendship over a wrestle-off,</li><li>Winning a state title as a junior</li><li>Not being allowed to defend his title as a senior</li><li>To becoming an 8x National High School Coaches Association National Champion</li></ul>

In today’s episode of Back Points, we sit down with Blake Roulo, the Head Coach of the Averett University Cougars, who describes a fascinating wrestling journey that includes:
Getting pinned 10 times in a row in at the holiday duals in middle school; Losing an important friendship over a wrestle-off; Winning a state title as a junior; Not being allowed to defend his title as a senior; To becoming an 8x National High School Coaches Association National Champion.

Blake Roulo, 2010 State Champion, Matoaca High School

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Next is Andrew Abrams, the 1998 130-pound state champion from Herndon High School. Andrew was described by his teammate Matt Gallagher in episode #8 of Back Points as part of the unstoppable “three headed monster” that was comprised of himself, Peter Bakke, and Andrew Abrams. Andrew opens up about his path to a state title, as well as his life since leaving wrestling after high school. Currently, Andrew is a partner at the law firm of O’Bryon and Schnabel in New Orleans.

Next is Andrew Abrams, the 1998 130-pound state champion from Herndon High School. Andrew was described by his teammate Matt Gallagher in episode #8 of Back Points as part of the unstoppable “three headed monster” that was comprised of himself, Peter Bakke, and Andrew Abrams. Andrew opens up about his path to a state title, as well as his life since leaving wrestling after high school. Currently, Andrew is a partner at the law firm of O’Bryon and Schnabel in New Orleans.

Andrew Abrams, 1998 State Champion, Herndon High School

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Next up! Brandon Rushing, the 1995 state champion for Lee High School in Fairfax, now known as &#34;Lewis High School.&#34; Brandon is also an entrepreneur who owns and operates Branding Rushing Law &amp; Garden Care for the last 25 years.

Next up! Brandon Rushing, the 1995 state champion for Lee High School in Fairfax, now known as "Lewis High School."

Brandon is also an entrepreneur who owns and operates Branding Rushing Law & Garden Care for the last 25 years.

Brandon Rushing, 1995 State Champion, Lee High School

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Roman Perryman has an amazing wrestling journey to share, and he opens up about the high points and low points of his life, which include winning the state tournament his freshman year in his own high school gym, Robinson High School in Fairfax.  He talks about being a 4x all-state wrestler, wrestling D1 in college, joining a NASCAR pit crew, and discovering the power of meditation as an adult.  As always, if you want to support the show, please leave a 5-star rating and review and <a href="http://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/back-points/id1530857297" rel="nofollow">Apple Podcasts</a>, or anywhere else you find the show online. IMPORTANT: Also, Back Points is sponsoring a Wrestling Trivia Night on October 27 at 8pm to support youth wrestling in Fairfax, Virginia. The charity that this trivia night supports is called UP2US, and the funds raised will support youth coaching positions in Fairfax. This is a great cause, and I hope you will signup to support it.  <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdgIvN6jEBDCM9jEgj1m-Gz5K3fb4E4c4qylWUsc9etvFYLXw/viewform?fbclid=IwAR3wMyiv-QE4YqokaK2NFykD0h715mxwTP7BJU9mwle7-kRwylrlp63vAxE&gxids=7628" rel="nofollow">Details and signup here</a>

Roman Perryman has an amazing wrestling journey to share, and he opens up about the high points and low points of his life, which include winning the state tournament his freshman year in his own high school gym, Robinson High School in Fairfax. 

He talks about being a 4x all-state wrestler, wrestling D1 in college, joining a NASCAR pit crew, and discovering the power of meditation as an adult. 

As always, if you want to support the show, please leave a 5-star rating and review and Apple Podcasts, or anywhere else you find the show online.

IMPORTANT: Also, Back Points is sponsoring a Wrestling Trivia Night on October 27 at 8pm to support youth wrestling in Fairfax, Virginia. The charity that this trivia night supports is called UP2US, and the funds raised will support youth coaching positions in Fairfax. This is a great cause, and I hope you will signup to support it.  Details and signup here

Roman Perryman, 2007 State Champ, Robinson High School

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We’re here with Beau Tillman, a 3x state champion (and 4x state finalist) from Kansas, who is now working with Winning Mindset, a group dedicated to helping wrestlers reach their highest possible level of performance. Beau talks about what it was like being coached by his father, the role of psychology in achieving your potential, as well as some of the tactics that helped him on his journey to be a (3x) state champion.

We’re here with Beau Tillman, a 3x state champion (and 4x state finalist) from Kansas, who is now working with Winning Mindset, a group dedicated to helping wrestlers reach their highest possible level of performance. Beau talks about what it was like being coached by his father, the role of psychology in achieving your potential, as well as some of the tactics that helped him on his journey to be a (3x) state champion.

Beau Tillman, KS State Wrestling Champ (1996-1997-1999)

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Rob Chevez won the 1993 state championship his senior year in high school in Florida. He started wrestling as a freshman in high school, won third in the state as a junior, and after high school he went on to wrestle at American University, where he won the conference his senior year. He talks about the importance of visualization, aiming high, surrounding yourself with winners, and being clear about what you want to achieve.

Rob Chevez won the 1993 state championship his senior year in high school in Florida. He started wrestling as a freshman in high school, won third in the state as a junior, and after high school he went on to wrestle at American University, where he won the conference his senior year. 

He talks about the importance of visualization, aiming high, surrounding yourself with winners, and being clear about what you want to achieve.

Rob Chevez, 1993 State Champion, Pine Crest HS

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Today&#39;s episode features Dalton Henderson, the 2012 state champion for Ocean Lakes in Virginia Beach. Henderson was also recently named the Head Coach for the storied Colonial Forge High School in Stafford Virginia. Coach Henderson tells us today about his journey to a state title, including the role of team camps, competition, and having the mentality in wrestling.

Today's episode features Dalton Henderson, the 2012 state champion for Ocean Lakes in Virginia Beach. Henderson was also recently named the Head Coach for the storied Colonial Forge High School in Stafford Virginia. Coach Henderson tells us today about his journey to a state title, including the role of team camps, competition, and having the mentality in wrestling.

Dalton Henderson, 2012 State Champion, Ocean Lakes High School

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Matt Gallagher was a 4x state placer (winning in 1999), 4x regional champ, and a 3x district champ. In this episode he talks about: being a professional rollerblader at age 15, the role of the Beltway Bandits in preparing him for high school, his challenges with cutting weight, and we watch his state finals match, which he hadn&#39;t seen in more than 20 years, and which lasted 37 seconds.

Matt Gallagher was a 4x state placer (winning in 1998), 4x regional champ, and a 3x district champ. In this episode he talks about: being a professional rollerblader at age 15, the role of the Beltway Bandits in preparing him for high school, his challenges with cutting weight, and we watch his state finals match, which he hadn't seen in more than 20 years, and which lasted 37 seconds.

Matt Gallagher, 1999 State Champion, Herndon High School

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We’re here today with David Bragg, the 120 pound state champion from Oscar Smith High School – he spends 20 minutes talking to us about his journey to a title! Let’s roll!

We’re here today with David Bragg, the 120 pound state champion from Oscar Smith High School – he spends 20 minutes talking to us about his journey to a title! Let’s roll!

David Bragg, 2020 State Champion (6A, Virginia)

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Coach Bryan Hazard started coaching the Robinson Rams in Fairfax, Virginia in 1996, and since 2010 the team has finished either first or second in the state of Virginia eight times. Today, he will share about: <ul><li>What he thinks wrestlers should focus on in the off-season,</li><li>Why you should never have a goal of having your kids go undefeated,</li><li>Why coaches shouldn’t be overly negative, and</li><li>How he builds confidence in his athletes.</li></ul>

Coach Bryan Hazard started coaching the Robinson Rams in Fairfax, Virginia in 1996, and since 2010 the team has finished either first or second in the state of Virginia eight times.  

Today, he will share about: 

What he thinks wrestlers should focus on in the off-season; why you should never have a goal of having your kids go undefeated, why coaches shouldn’t be overly negative, and how he builds confidence in his athletes.

Bryan Hazard, Coach of 4x State Champion Robinson Rams

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Coach Donald Motley became head coach of Oscar Smith High School wrestling team in 2014, and six years later he led them to their first ever state championship, with three individual champions.

Coach Donald Motley became head coach of Oscar Smith High School wrestling team in 2014, and six years later he led them to their first ever state championship, with three individual champions.

Donald Motley, Coach of 2020 6A VA State Champs, Oscar Smith HS

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Chris was a 2x state champion, first as a Virginia AAA state champion in 1993, and then he moved to Pennsylvania, where he won another state title. He then went on to wrestle for Michigan State, where he was a 2x All American. He now coaches as the head coach for his alma mater, TC Williams in Virginia.

Chris was a 2x state champion, first as a Virginia AAA state champion in 1993, and then he moved to Pennsylvania, where he won another state title. He then went on to wrestle for Michigan State, where he was a 2x All American. He now coaches as the head coach for his alma mater, TC Williams in Virginia.

Chris Marshall, 2x State Champion (Virginia and PA)

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Paul Bjorlo won the Virginia State AAA Wrestling tournament in 1999 for South Lakes High School. He went on to wrestle for UVA, where he won an ACC title. He talks about the mental component of losing his sophomore year, and how that fueled his victory as a junior, and he also spoke of the challenge of being a defending state champion, and how that may have inhibited his performance as a senior. He currently coaches at West Springfield High School in Virginia.

Paul Bjorlo won the Virginia State AAA Wrestling tournament in 1999 for South Lakes High School. He went on to wrestle for UVA, where he won an ACC title.  He talks about the mental component of losing his sophomore year, and how that fueled his victory as a junior, and he also spoke of the challenge of being a defending state champion, and how that may have inhibited his performance as a senior. He currently coaches at West Springfield High School in Virginia.

Paul Bjorlo, 1999 Virginia State Champion, South Lakes High School

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Stacy Woodhouse wrestled for Great Bridge High School in the 1990s, where he was a 3x state finalist and 2x state champion. He talks about the many coaches in the Great Bridge room, including Steve Martin, Wayne Martin, and Billy Martin. He talks about getting a scholarship to American University before the program was cut. And he talks about how wrestling has helped him in his post-wrestling life.

Stacy Woodhouse wrestled for Great Bridge High School in the 1990s, where he was a 3x state finalist and 2x state champion.  He talks about the many coaches in the Great Bridge room, including Steve Martin, Wayne Martin, and Billy Martin. He talks about getting a scholarship to American University before the program was cut. And he talks about how wrestling has helped him in his post-wrestling life.

Stacy Woodhouse, 2x Virginia State Champion, Great Bridge High School

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Wade Schalles wrestled for Clarion University, where he was a 2x NCAA champion in 1972 and 1973, and he won the outstanding wrestler award in 1972. He holds Guinness world records for the most pins of any wrestler, and also for the wrestler who pinned the greatest number of world champions. He is considered the &#34;father funk wrestling&#34; by many. Today, he talks about how he helped design the Grundy High School wrestling program from its origins as a tiny program, to a dominant Virginia wrestling school with national recognition.

Wade Schalles wrestled for Clarion University, where he was a 2x NCAA champion in 1972 and 1973, and he also won the outstanding wrestler award in 1973. 

He holds Guinness world records for the most pins of any wrestler, and also for the wrestler who pinned the greatest number of world champions. He is considered the "father funk wrestling" by many.

Today, he talks about how he helped design the Grundy High School wrestling program from its origins as a tiny program, to a dominant Virginia wrestling school with national recognition.

Wade Schalles, 2x NCAA and PA State Champ

The Podcast Where Wrestlers and Coaches Reveal Their Secrets

Back Points is the podcast where top wrestlers and coaches reveal their secrets about how they won state championships in high school wrestling. Each episode features an interview with a wrestler or a coach who has won a state title, and talks about their wrestling journey.

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