Living Through It with ECM is a podcast dedicated to survival, activism and change in the current political moment. With weekly interviews with guests who are changing the world and advice on how to continue working toward a better future in the face of burnout and exhaustion, Living Through It inspires, creates hope, and shares a vision for a more just and equitable world.
Formerly known as the Women’s Leadership Podcast, Living Through It is hosted by Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin and brought to you by The Gaia Leadership Project.
To learn more about Elizabeth, as well as the work of the Gaia Leadership Project, go to www.gaialeadershipproject.com, or contact us directly at info@gaialeadershipproject.com.

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Thanks for listening to Living Through It.
We&#39;re going to take a brief hiatus, but we&#39;ll be back with lots of timely and inspiring interviews before too long.

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Thanks for listening to Living Through It.
We're going to take a brief hiatus, but we'll be back with lots of timely and inspiring interviews before too long.

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S101 E20 Season 1 Wrap-Up

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Dr. Fabienne Doucet, Executive Director of New York University’s Metropolitan Center for Research on Equity and the Transformation of Schools, and Associate Professor of Early Childhood and Urban Education. Join us as we discuss Ron DeSantis’ attack on public education, how parents can get involved, and the importance of refusing to abandon our kids through a mindset of powerlessness. 

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S101 E19: Dr. Fabienne Doucet: How to Save Education from the Far Right

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Leah Greenberg, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Director of Indivisible. Join us as we discuss how Indivisible came to be, the rocketship of Indivisible’s expansion nationwide, motherhood and work, and how to save democracy. 

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S101 E18 Leah Greenberg: Indivisible, Nationwide Organizing, Motherhood and the Quest to Save Democracy

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.
In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Roger Lau, the former Campaign Chair for Elizabeth Warren’s presidential run and current Deputy Executive Director of the DNC. Join us as we discuss our interlocking American immigrant stories, the future of democracy and fighting back against looming threats, how all of us deserve second chances, and how all of us belong. 

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S101 E17 Deputy Executive DNC Chair Roger Lau: On the American Story and the Future of Democracy

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Wajahat Ali, best-selling author, columnist, and political commentator. Join us as we discuss masculinity and emotion, how fatherhood impacts political choices, why humor is a key to defeating fascism, and how joy and faith play a role in future building. 

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S101 E16 Wajahat Ali: Masculinity, Fatherhood and Hope

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth offers up five themes for growth in 2023, including why we all need to learn persuasion, reinvigorate kindness, and foster reinvention. 

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S101 E15 Why 2023 is a Year for Growth

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Jadah Sellner, author, entrepreneur, and advocate for building, not burning out. Join us as we discuss how entrepreneurship for women offers opportunities and challenges, how knowing what you stand for and where you are in life allow you to serve more effectively, why we need diverse role models everywhere, and how to prep for 2023 to continue the path to a better world. 

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S101 E14 Jadah Sellner: Vision, Future, and Living By Your Values

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Toby Gialluca, the Voter Protection Head for St. Johns County, Florida and a decades-long Florida activist. Join us as we discuss voter protection and suppression efforts in Florida, Warnock’s win in Georgia, the looming threat of DeSantis running for president, and why Florida has lessons to teach all of us, including and especially Democrats. 

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S101 E13 Toby Gialluca: Can Florida Be Saved?

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.
In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Brandon Wolf, co-founder of The Dru Project, Press Secretary for Equality Florida, and Pulse Nightclub survivor. Join us as we discuss the battle for LGBTQ+ rights in Florida, the progress we’ve made on gun safety legislation and what we need to do next, and why joy is endemic to resisting fascism. This is a beautiful, emotional episode.
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S101 E12 Brandon Wolf: On the Front Lines of LGBTQ+ Rights and Gun Safety

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Anat Shenker-Osorio, Principal and Founder of ASO Communications and renowned progressive messaging Guru. Join us as we discuss why “resistance” alone doesn’t move the needle, how defiance and imagination pair together in effective messaging, and what we need to do to win in 2024 and beyond to build a true democracy in America, one that we’ve never had.

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S101 E11 Anat Shenker-Osorio: How We Message to Win

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.
In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Representative Joaquin Castro as he heads into his tenth year in the House of Representatives from Texas’ 20th District. Join us for this critical conversation about immigration as a weapon of the far right, how to combat the challenge of a Republican-led House, and how you (yes, you) can continue to ensure that democracy survives.
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S101 E10 Rep. Joaquin Castro: The Fight for Democracy Continues

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

Welcome to a special joint bonus episode of Living Through it with AG from #TheDailyBeans. In this episode, we’re rounding up the election results, talking about this week’s big legal developments (Trump’s taxes!) and forecasting the next session of Congress that starts in January. 

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S101 E9 Bonus Episode! AG and ECM’s Post-Election Roundup

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.
In this episode, Elizabeth interviews author, speaker, and racial equity expert Minda Harts. Join us for a lively conversation about why diversity is the future, how to handle a workplace that won’t change, and why creating companies that look like America is good for all of us.

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S101 E8 Equity at Work: Minda Harts

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Santiago Mayer, the Founder of Voters of Tomorrow. Join us as we discuss the 2022 midterm elections, key takeaways from turnout and results, how Gen Z is mobilizing to create a more equitable world for all of us, and the key role played by Taylor Swift in Santiago’s work!

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S101 E7 Election Roundup! Santiago Mayer of Voters of Tomorrow

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In this episode, Elizabeth interviews Nelini Stamp, Director of Strategy and Partnerships for the Working Families Party. Join us as we talk about why this election matters so much, some of the most exciting candidates on the ballot this year, and how we build a better future for working families across America.

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

S101 E6 Vote to Change the World: Nelini Stamp from Working Families Party

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.
In this episode, Elizabeth interviews journalist and author Anand Giridharadas about his new book, The Persuaders: At the Front Lines of the Fight for Hearts, Minds and Democracy. Join us as we talk about the opportunities to build bridges across identities and movements that this moment provides, the activists and organizers who are doing it and what we can learn from them, and why you can make a difference where you live, right now, by learning to persuade instead of abandon those on the same side. 
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S101 E5 The Persuaders, or Why the Fascists Won’t Win: Anand Giridharadas

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews world-renowned hip hop record producer, A&amp;R executive and #MeToo truthteller Drew Dixon. Join us as we talk about the state of #MeToo, Drew’s appearance in the documentary film On the Record, the role of Black women and the Black community in the #MeToo movement, and how we create a better future that ends the cycle of sexual abuse. 

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews world-renowned hip hop record producer, A&R executive and #MeToo truthteller Drew Dixon. Join us as we talk about the state of #MeToo, Drew’s appearance in the documentary film On the Record, the role of Black women and the Black community in the #MeToo movement, and how we create a better future that ends the cycle of sexual abuse. 

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S101 E4 Tearing Down the Pedestals and the State of #MeToo: Drew Dixon

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.
In this episode, Elizabeth interviews journalist, author and lawyer Elie Mystal about the state of the law in America, the Supreme Court and the future of democracy. Join us as we talk about voting rights, Constitutional history, the racist origins of voter suppression, and how you can make a difference in the future of the American judiciary. 
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S101 E3 The Supreme Court Holds The Keys: Elie Mystal

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In this episode, Elizabeth interviews journalist and author Sarah Kendzior about her new book, They Knew: How a Culture of Conspiracy Keeps America Complacent. Join us as we talk about the intersection of unremedied criminal conspiracies and conspiracy theories; why the truth matters so much right now; the difference between hope for failing systems and hope in organizing together; and why Sarah still has faith in the power of the people. 

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S101 E2 Corruption, Conspiracy, and Carrying On: Sarah Kendzior

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Welcome to Living Through It with ECM: A Podcast for Interesting Times.

In this episode, Elizabeth interviews history-making Pennsylvania State Representative and former US Senate candidate Malcolm Kenyatta. Join us as we talk about the incredible importance of the midterms and our local elections this year; how we take back power; Malcolm’s new endeavor, Agenda PAC; and hope as a renewable resource. 

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