Lani Matsumura explains how to make learning its own lifestyle
Season 1 | Episode 2
39m | Oct 6, 2025Lani Matsumura, Director of Social Services Training & Development at The Salvation Army, brings her background as a teacher, instructional designer, and believer in lifelong learning to this conversation. In this episode, she offers a fresh perspective on embracing a learning lifestyle—one rooted in growth, rest, and integrity, not in pressure, perfectionism, or burnout.
Lani shares insights on:
- Her professional pivots and how each transition signaled a deeper call to learn
- The teaching tools and design strategies she still leans on in her own personal growth
- The tension between productive growth and rest, and how she honors learning even in stillness
- Stories from her work at The Salvation Army and past roles
If you’re balancing ambition with well-being, seeking a more sustainable way to grow, or curious how learning shows up in all seasons of life, this conversation with Lani Matsumura is for you!
Presented by Elynndí, and hosted by Aaron Barlin. See elynndi.com to learn how we "think like a teacher" to create the show.

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