Pull up a chair at our dinner table as the dynamic husband and wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes. What are they hiding? What are they hiding from? What remains hidden? Find more on our YouTube channel: <a href="https://youtube.com/c/HiddenTrueCrime" rel="nofollow">https://youtube.com/c/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime</a>HIDDEN TRUE CRIME PRODUCTIONSInquiries: HiddenTrueCrime@gmail.com / Ad sales: HiddenTrueCrime@gmail.com

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5 Secrets of Thomas Matthew Crooks: Forensic Psychologist Analyzes Trump Assassination AttemptFind out the easiest way to get to sleep, and stay asleep when you click <a href="https://shopbeam.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">https://shopbeam.com/hiddentruecrime</a> and use code TRUECRIME to get up to 35% at checkout.Videos Used In This Episode:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVMtQ4piGR8" rel="nofollow">Former classmate of Trump rally gunman says he was ‘bullied almost every day’</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98RSb9MMgX0" rel="nofollow">Trump Shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks Video Shows Him Joking About Penis | TMZ</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7CG3dOU2H8" rel="nofollow">Thomas Matthew Crooks&#39; former guidance counselor says &#34;it didn&#39;t register&#34; at first</a>Additional Sources:BBC<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o" rel="nofollow">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o</a> Politicio<a href="https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/24/congress/fbi-director-christopher-wray-thomas-crooks-trump-shooting-00170884" rel="nofollow">https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/24/congress/fbi-director-christopher-wray-thomas-crooks-trump-shooting-00170884</a> CNN<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/us/thomas-crooks-trump-rally-shooting-invs/index.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/15/us/thomas-crooks-trump-rally-shooting-invs/index.html</a> <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/19/politics/trump-rally-shooter-searches/index.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/19/politics/trump-rally-shooter-searches/index.html</a> TIME<a href="https://time.com/6998557/thomas-matthew-crooks-trump-rally-shooter-fbi-motive/" rel="nofollow">https://time.com/6998557/thomas-matthew-crooks-trump-rally-shooter-fbi-motive/</a>FOX<a href="https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-would-be-assassin-thomas-crooks-researched-mass-shooter-ethan-crumbley-source" rel="nofollow">https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-would-be-assassin-thomas-crooks-researched-mass-shooter-ethan-crumbley-source</a> <a href="https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-shooter-thomas-crooks-online-search-history-included-depressive-disorder-trump-biden-dnc" rel="nofollow">https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-shooter-thomas-crooks-online-search-history-included-depressive-disorder-trump-biden-dnc</a>  New York Times<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/15/us/trump-rally-shooting-crooks.html" rel="nofollow">Trump Rally Gunman ‘Didn’t Want Attention’ in School, Classmates Said - The New York Times</a>USA Today:<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/07/14/thomas-crooks-trump-rally-shooter/74397935007/" rel="nofollow">https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/07/14/thomas-crooks-trump-rally-shooter/74397935007/</a> Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

5 Secrets of Thomas Matthew Crooks: Forensic Psychologist Analyzes Trump Assassination Attempt

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Warning: This episode discusses topics related to suicide and self-harm. Please listen with caution.Listen to JP Miller&#39;s Full Interview with NewsNation on Banfield<a href="https://youtu.be/_SRhuC5-66w?si=bbsitgY-JyYbdUZV" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/_SRhuC5-66w?si=bbsitgY-JyYbdUZV </a>Mica Miller&#39;s Family Reaction Interview with NewsNation on Banfield<a href="https://youtu.be/-paFNkHxmHw?si=Fls8JyG4XJyOg3mZ" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/-paFNkHxmHw?si=Fls8JyG4XJyOg3mZ</a>Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Mica Miller: Dr. John Reacts to JP Miller's Bizarre Interview on NewsNation

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This is a case Hidden True Crime has been following since the very beginning. If you&#39;re new to Timothy Haslett Jr and the Kansas City House of Horrors, begin here. We will be sharing many of our interviews as well as the all of the evidence we have uncovered from the Excelsior Springs, Missouri Kidnapping.About Hidden True Crime:Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and she and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Blue Barrel Killer: Dr. John Analyzes Timothy Haslett Jr.

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*The interviews in this episode were originally recorded in October of 2022. The only edits made were to cut out connection issues.*This is a case Hidden True Crime has been following since the very beginning. If you&#39;re new to Timothy Haslett Jr and the Kansas City House of Horrors, begin here. We will be sharing many of our interviews as well as the all of the evidence we have uncovered from the Excelsior Springs, Missouri Kidnapping.About Hidden True Crime:Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and she and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Blue Barrel Killer: Woman Timothy Haslett Dated & Past Friend SPEAK OUT!

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Blue Barrel Killer: 2 Neighbors Speak Out!

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If You See a Blue Barrel: Kansas City House of HORRORS | Timothy Haslett Jr. Excelsior Springs

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The judge dismissed Alec Baldwin’s involuntary manslaughter case on the 4th day of trial. Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer sided with Baldwin’s lawyers, who argued that prosecutors did not turn over evidence to the defense, and instead, actively tried to bury it.Lauren Joins Jesse Weber on NewsNation:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxzid3PtLLEAbout Hidden True Crime:Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and she and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Dr. John Reacts: Alec Baldwin's Jaw-Dropping Case Dismissal

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Lauren is at the courthouse on the ground in Santa Fe, reporting on New Mexico vs. Alexander Rae Baldwin. In this episode, Lauren shares everything you need to know about opening statements, witness testimony through Day 1 and Day 2, and an exclusive interview with Gloria Allred.Previous Case Episodes:The Controversial Case Against Alec Baldwin: Full Story &amp; Timeline Explainedhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast/id1521619380?i=1000661724526 https://open.spotify.com/episode/3soVbvjEQHl3sl1VWBhrsJ?si=e34ca50c575047d2Forensic Psychologist Analyzes Alec Baldwin&#39;s Involuntary Manslaughter Trialhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast/id1521619380?i=1000661695828https://open.spotify.com/episode/480mEzPdbg9CGgTgJGBQsw?si=611a3963e0fd42faThe Truth about Rust: What Hannah Knew [Alec Baldwin&#39;s Armorer Convicted in &#39;Rust&#39; Film Shooting Trial] https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast/id1521619380?i=1000650909572https://open.spotify.com/episode/5LRGUCkRwwZuBoujq15A6e?si=fefe91a8758749b4About Hidden True Crime:Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and she and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Explosive Opening Statements & Testimony + Exclusive Interview with Gloria Allred

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Alec Baldwin’s involuntary manslaughter trial is officially underway in New Mexico, over two years after the gun he was rehearsing with on the “Rust” film set fired a live bullet, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. In this episode, we go over the entire backstory and chronological timeline of everything that&#39;s happened so far.Sources:Santa Fe County Court New Mexico vs. Hannah Gutierrez-ReedCourt TVhttps://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/rust-timeline-key-events-alec-baldwin-set-shooting/story?id=96537610https://www.nytimes.com/article/alec-baldwin-shooting-investigation.htmlAbout Hidden True Crime:Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The Controversial Case Against Alec Baldwin: Full Story & Timeline Explained

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Forensic Criminal Psychologist Dr. John Matthias discusses key elements surrounding Alec Baldwin and the fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins on the set of &#34;Rust&#34; About Hidden True Crime:Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and she and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Forensic Psychologist Analyzes Alec Baldwin's Involuntary Manslaughter Trial

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Lauren Matthias is in New Mexico, preparing to cover the Alec Baldwin Trial. In March, 2024, Hidden True Crime covered the trial and verdict of Armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed who was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in her role in the death of Halyna Hutchins on the set of Alec Baldwin&#39;s &#34;Rust&#34; movie set.We felt it was time to revisit this important episode originally recorded in March, 2024 before New Mexico v Alec Baldwin begins this week in Santa Fe.DREAM Night Drink: Make a good night&#39;s sleep a focus in 2024. Click <a href="https://shopbeam.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">https://shopbeam.com/hiddentruecrime</a> and use code TRUECRIME to get up to 35% off Beam’s clinically tested nighttime blend, Dream.DR. JOHN MATTHIAS is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist with 30 years’ experience in both clinical and forensic work. He serves as an expert witness for the federal government and has consulted on numerous high-profile cases for District Attorney’s offices and defense attorneys in several states.Dr. Matthias graduated with honors in philosophy from Princeton University, and he won the prestigious McCosh Thesis prize while there. In high school he graduated valedictorian from a large public high school in Chicago where he was chosen to participate in a ground-breaking valedictory study that continues to this day.LAUREN MATTHIAS spent a decade working as an anchor and reporter. She has reported for News Nation and now produces the Hidden True Crime Podcast along with her husband Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist.HIDDEN: A TRUE CRIME PODCAST is: CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGY REINVENTED. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors in order to understand the world and ourselves.SUPPORT: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fhiddentruecrime&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkVfZ3lmRkFnWUNBREh0WVVhWmdUSGJGRWJmQXxBQ3Jtc0ttcmNidW1hdFFzcTFoNUtFT2Y3YVZ3dlhIVFVkbTR6OHNEdnlhNGMxX0tXVUVZSTRFWUw3MUVpLWZUNlJVQVQ1enBfeVhpazlmbV9qcW9YWUV3MFo1MHk2MEpPNmptMnc2NlNOSTA3a1cwY3RMRVI0bw&v=OIrF10MlOPo" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime</a>  Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The Truth about Rust: What Hannah Knew  [Alec Baldwin's Armorer Convicted in 'Rust' Film Shooting Trial]

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A psychological deep dive into Sherri Papini unlike anything you&#39;ve ever heard before. Papini is a California woman who, on November 2, 2016, went out for a jog near her home in Redding, California and vanished.Her husband Keith Papini begged for her return on national media until three weeks later when Sherri was found on the side of the road, beaten, branded and bound with chains. She said she&#39;d been kidnapped by two Hispanic women. In 2022 DNA evidence lead investigators to the home of Sherri’s ex boyfriend where they learned she had stayed willingly during the time she was missing.A recent Hulu Documentary series &#34;Perfect Wife: The Mysterious Disappearance of Sherri Papini&#34; inspired this in-depth 2 hour discussion with Dr John Matthias, forensic and clinical psychologist. Lauren Matthias is a television reporter who, along with her husband, Dr. John Matthias - a criminal psychologist - started Hidden True Crime in 2020.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The Secrets of Sherri Papini Revealed - with Dr. John Matthias, Psychologist

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Recorded June 23, 2024. Rex Heuermann has been charged with additional murders and a shocking arrest affidavit shows how the alleged serial killer plotted and planned. In a shocking twist-- Attorney John Ray has come forward with disturbing and violent art allegedly drawn by Victoria Heuerman--the daughter of Rex. Dr John Matthias, criminal psychologist, delves in.Heuermann was arrested in July, 2023. He was a married family man and architect working in New York City and at the time of this episode he was charged with the murders of 24-year-old Melissa Barthelemy, 22-year-old Megan Waterman and 27 year-old Amber Costello.Heuermann was later charged with the murders of 25-year-old Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 20-year-old Jessica Taylor and 28-year-old Sandra Costilla. He remains a suspect in continuing investigations.Lauren Matthias - a television reporter - and her husband, Dr. John Matthias - a criminal psychologist - started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

GILGO BEACH SERIAL KILLER: Blueprint for Murder - shocking arrest affidavit shows plotting and planning

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A presser held by attorney John Ray laid out new info about the wife of 59-year-old Rex Heuermann - Asa Ellerup. Dr John Matthias, criminal psychologist, delves in. This episode was originally recorded in October 2023. Heuermann was arrested in July, 2023. He was a married family man and architect working in New York City and at the time of this episode he was charged with the murders of 24-year-old Melissa Barthelemy, 22-year-old Megan Waterman and 27 year-old Amber Costello.Heuermann was later charged with the murders of 25-year-old Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 20-year-old Jessica Taylor and 28-year-old Sandra Costilla. He remains a suspect in continuing investigations.Lauren Matthias - a television reporter - and her husband, Dr. John Matthias - a criminal psychologist - started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

GILGO BEACH SERIAL KILLER: Rex & Asa: Collusive or Elusive Marriage?  Psychologist Dr John Matthias

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What created the man currently charged in a series of murders haunting Long Island for decades? Dr John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, takes questions from our listeners to continue the psychological deep dive into Heuermann&#39;s upbringing and family life, assessing the man charged with the unthinkable.59-year-old Rex Heuermann was arrested in July, 2023. He was a married family man and architect working in New York City and at the time of this episode he was charged with the murders of 24-year-old Melissa Barthelemy, 22-year-old Megan Waterman and 27 year-old Amber Costello.Heuermann was later charged with the murders of 25-year-old Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 20-year-old Jessica Taylor and 28-year-old Sandra Costilla. He remains a suspect in continuing investigations.This episode was originally recorded on July 23, 2023Lauren Matthias - a television reporter - and her husband, Dr. John Matthias - a criminal psychologist - started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

GILGO BEACH SERIAL KILLER: What created Rex Heuermann? A Psychological  Deep Dive PART 2

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What created the man currently charged in a series of murders haunting Long Island for decades? Dr John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, discusses Heuermann&#39;s upbringing and family life, assessing the man charged with the unthinkable.59-year-old Rex Heuermann was arrested in July, 2023. He was a married family man and architect working in New York City and at the time of this episode he was charged with the murders of 24-year-old Melissa Barthelemy, 22-year-old Megan Waterman and 27 year-old Amber Costello.Heuermann was later charged with the murders of 25-year-old Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 20-year-old Jessica Taylor and 28-year-old Sandra Costilla. He remains a suspect in continuing investigations.This episode was originally recorded on July 23, 2023Lauren Matthias - a television reporter - and her husband, Dr. John Matthias - a criminal psychologist - started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

GILGO BEACH SERIAL KILLER: What created Rex Heuermann? A Psychological Deep Dive PART 1

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Warning: This episode discusses topics related to suicide, self-harm, and domestic violence. Please listen with caution.Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and she and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Mica Miller: Forensic Criminal Psychologist Dr. John Matthias Reacts

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Warning: This episode discusses topics related to suicide and self-harm. Please listen with caution.Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Mica Miller: The Full Story

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Warning: This episode discusses topics related to sexual violence. Please listen with caution. Case Background:Madeline Soto was a 13-year-old girl living in Kissimmee, Florida. She was initially reported missing on February 26, 2024, after her mom, Jennifer Soto, went to pick her up from school, and Madeline was nowhere to be found.At the time, Jennifer Soto told police that Madeline was dropped off across the street from her school in a church parking lot by her mom&#39;s long-time/live-in boyfriend, Stephan Sterns. Stephan Sterns said he watched Madeline walk from the church parking lot towards the school but didn&#39;t watch Madeline walk all the way to see that she made it in.A massive 4-day search effort by multiple law enforcement agencies to find Madeline quickly ensued.In the immediate aftermath of her disappearance, investigators turned their attention to Stephan Sterns. Law enforcement found several disturbing pictures and videos on his phone of Madeline. He was later arrested on 60 charges, including capital sexual battery, lewd or lascivious molestation, and unlawful possession of materials depicting sexual performance by a child.Tragically, on March 1, 2024, Madeline was found deceased near a wooded area on Hickory Tree Rd. in Osceola County. This is the same area where Stephan Sterns&#39;s car was reported as being seen on the day Madeline went missing.Through several press conferences and news statements, law enforcement has stated that they believe that Madeline was already dead the morning she disappeared and that Stephan Sterns was actually moving her body at the time he was supposed to take her to school.Police also revealed that security footage shows Stephan Sterns dumping Madeline&#39;s backpack and her school laptop in an apartment complex dumpster at 7:35 am that morning. Additionally, police have video footage of Stephan Sterns returning to the dumpster, with what appears to be Madeline visibly deceased in the car.In April of 2024, Stephan Sterns was indicted on first-degree murder by a grand jury. He is now being held without bail at Osceola County Jail. On June 10, 2024, prosecutors announced that they will be seeking the death penalty against Stephan Sterns for Madeline&#39;s murder.Body Cam Footage Compilation:Gray Hughes Investigates<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GrayHughesInvestigates" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/@GrayHughesInvestigates</a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH-CP7wUq_U" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH-CP7wUq_U</a>Interviews:Fox Orlando<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbcXE3b-t34" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbcXE3b-t34</a>WFTV Channel 9https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvUdnLGAqtoAbout Hidden True Crime:Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The Disturbing Case of Madeline Soto

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Join Hidden True Crime as we follow Chad Daybell&#39;s trial from beginning to end. Host Lauren Matthias is in the courtroom daily, doing lunch lives on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> and summarizing each day and week right here on <a href="https://redcircle.com/shows/7b88c407-520a-4279-8325-416d02cd8602?_gl=1%2Agyeik3%2A_gcl_au%2ANjYwNjc5NzQ3LjE3MDkwOTUyMDI.%2A_ga%2ANzg5OTIzMjQxLjE3MDkwOTUyMDM.%2A_ga_KVZ47LYJWW%2AMTcxMjY5NzUxOS4zNS4xLjE3MTI2OTgyOTUuMC4wLjA." rel="nofollow">Hidden: A True Crime Podcast.</a>Lauren Matthias was a television reporter for a decade and has followed the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case since 2019. She and her husband, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, &#39;Beyond the Veil,&#39; a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet.What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling.Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/hiddentruecrime" rel="nofollow">Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime</a> Our Sponsors: * Check out Rosetta Stone and use my code TODAY for a great deal: www.rosettastone.com * Get 15% off on your entire order at happymammoth.com with code HIDDENTRUECRIME at checkout! * Visit armoire.style/HIDDENTRUECRIME and get up to 50% off your first month, that’s up to $125 OFF! Support this podcast at — <a rel='payment' href='https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations'>https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donations</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

JUROR # 14 Joins Dr. John & Lauren: An In-Depth Conversation After Serving On The Jury

Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors, both good and bad, in order to understand the world and ourselves

Hidden: A True Crime Podcast, explores the hidden motives behind unimaginable crimes, while examining our deepest fears along the way. Join us on a journey into the darkest recesses of the human mind and the unconscious motivations that drive human behaviors, both good and bad, in order to understand the world and ourselves. 

Pull up a chair at our dinner table as the dynamic husband and wife duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes. What are they hiding? What are they hiding from? What remains hidden?