Referential is hosted by Dr. Khaliden Nas to have serious conversations about frivolous topics! Each episode takes you on an academically informed deep dive into pop culture and media that never skips out on a stupid joke. Subscribe &amp; join Dr. Khaliden Nas (and the occasional guest!) as we dive into conversations about identity, representation, Blackness, queerness (and so much more) across the cultures that we make; and the cultures that make us. Artwork by <a href="http://www.valentinemsmith.com" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith.</a> Music by Pampered Fists &amp; Anzahlung. Find out more at www.alsopurple.com

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REFERENTIAL BOOK CLUB #1 (?)Victor and I have read a book (!). Listen to our discussion of the queer book of the moment &#39;Fruit Fly&#39; by Josh Silver. +<ul><li>Domestic Thrillers</li><li>The state of Gay publishing </li><li>Chemsex</li><li>The Morning Show</li><li>Brazilian Elections</li></ul> Book spoilers from 30 mins! <h3>Subscribe to REFERENTIAL PODCAST&#39;s patreon!</h3><a href="https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast</a>Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials. __________Original podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. Find Kaela @itskaelashanti on tiktok and @KaelaShanti on insta! Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)Subscribe to our Youtube Page!https://youtube.com/@referentialpodMore at www.alsopurple.com___________ <h2>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!</h2> NEXT UP: MIX #2: Joni Mitchell&#39;s &#39;Blue&#39; with Karen Charm + The Girlsisode with Victor Alexander! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Fruit Fly by Josh Silver

REFERENTIAL BOOK CLUB #1 (?)



Victor and I have read a book (!). Listen to our discussion of the queer book of the moment &#39;Fruit Fly&#39; by Josh Silver. 

+

Domestic Thrillers
The state of Gay publishing 
Chemsex
The Morning Show
Brazilian Elections


Book spoilers from 30 mins!



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Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.



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Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

Find Kaela @itskaelashanti on tiktok and @KaelaShanti on insta!



Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

Subscribe to our Youtube Page!

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More at www.alsopurple.com

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'Fruit Fly' by Josh Silver (with Victor Alexander)

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Video episode 3Back to regular programming![Part 1 of a series.]Have you ever heard the term &#39;digital blackface&#39;? The Real Housewives franchise has spawned a million gifs and opinions; all asking if this is how &#39;we&#39;&#39; should be represented- and what these shows mean for the community. For our third main episode we decided to examine that statement through a discussion about Bravo&#39;s Black led Real Housewives franchise (with some thoughts on the other casts sprinkled in). Do these shows reduce Black women to something problematic for mass entertainment? Or is it us who do that work because of our hang ups?I’m joined by screenwriter, social media producer and classically trained musician (?!) Lauren Warren (Nerd of Prey!)(Caw!!)(most recently a finalist in the ScreenCraft Virtual Pitch Competition) to talk all about Bravo&#39;s Real Housewives franchise.We cover Real Housewives of Atlanta [RHOA] and Real Housewives of Potomac [RHOP], with thoughts on some of the other casts sprinkled throughout (Orange County, New York, New Jersey, DC, Salt Lake City and Vancouver).Listen to us think about existing as a Black woman in public, failing in public, respectability and the weight of representation+ Find out how we also fit the following into the discussion<ul><li>Secret lesbians, queerness, panic and RHOA</li><li>Kim, whiteness and power in early RHOA</li><li>Corporate activism as a commercial exercise</li><li>Colorism, and RHOP</li><li>The collapse of polite fiction, pretence and reality in public</li><li>Shout out to The Nerds of Prey!</li><li>Mash Ups and Remixes</li><li>Alaska the cat attacks</li><li>Pocket gays</li><li>Double standards </li><li>The reality reckoning </li><li>Reality vs Documentary</li><li>Nene Leakes you will always be famous</li><li>Bravo’s Flop era</li><li>Existing</li></ul> If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the &#39;Citation Page&#39; for this episode on my website, available from the first Sunday after the episode is up! !<a href="https://www.alsopurple.com/citation-corner" rel="nofollow">https://www.alsopurple.com/citation-corner</a>You&#39;ll find all the quotes, books, tv, and pods referenced and recommender in this conversation.Find Lauren Warren @TheValidVictorian on Instagram and @IamLaurenP2 on Twitter all the socials! Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.Produced and hosted by Dr. Khaliden Nas.Music by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.Podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. Video production by Victor Alexander (Find more on the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcndihR-MvImuY-s89jIXDg" rel="nofollow">REFERENTIAL Youtube page</a>!)Find out what I’m up to at <a href="http://www.alsopurple.com" rel="nofollow">www.alsopurple.com</a>Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast! Thank you for listening! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Episode 3: Women in Public (Or A Real Housewives Deep Dive with Lauren Warren)

Back to regular programming!

[Part 1 of a series.]

Have you ever heard the term &#39;digital blackface&#39;? The Real Housewives franchise has spawned a million gifs and opinions; all asking if this is how &#39;we&#39;&#39; should be represented- and what these shows mean for the community. 

For Episode 3 we decided to examine that statement through a discussion about Bravo&#39;s Black led Real Housewives franchise (with some thoughts on the other casts sprinkled in). 

Do these shows reduce Black women to something problematic for mass entertainment? Or is it us who do that work because of our hang ups?

I’m joined by screenwriter, social media producer and classically trained musician (?!) Lauren Warren (Nerd of Prey!)(Caw!!)(most recently a finalist in the ScreenCraft Virtual Pitch Competition) to talk all about Bravo&#39;s Real Housewives franchise.

We cover Real Housewives of Atlanta [RHOA] and Real Housewives of Potomac [RHOP], with thoughts on some of the other casts sprinkled throughout (Orange County, New York, New Jersey, DC, Salt Lake City and Vancouver).

Listen to us think about existing as a Black woman in public, failing in public, respectability and the weight of representation

+ Find out how we also fit the following into the discussion

Secret lesbians, queerness, panic and RHOA
Kim, whiteness and power in early RHOA
Corporate activism as a commercial exercise
Colorism, and RHOP
The collapse of polite fiction, pretence and reality in public
Shout out to The Nerds of Prey!
Mash Ups and Remixes
Alaska the cat attacks
Pocket gays
Double standards 
The reality reckoning 
Reality vs Documentary
Nene Leakes you will always be famous
Bravo’s Flop era
Existing


If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the &#39;Citation Page&#39; for this episode on my website, available from the first Sunday after the episode is up! !

https://www.alsopurple.com/citation-corner

You&#39;ll find all the quotes, books, tv, and pods referenced and recommender in this conversation.

Find Lauren Warren @TheValidVictorian on Instagram and @IamLaurenP2 on Twitter all the socials!





Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Produced and hosted by Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Music by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

Video production by Victor Alexander (Find more on the REFERENTIAL Youtube page!)

Find out what I’m up to at www.alsopurple.com

Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!



Thank you for listening!

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Women in Public (Or A Real Housewives of Atlanta/Potomac Deep Dive with Lauren Warren) [RERUN]

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<h2>Drop Call #14</h2>New drop call episode! I&#39;m joined by new guest and friend of the pod Noor from <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-reality-is/id1535296559" rel="nofollow">The Reality Is</a> podcast! We talk about what it&#39;s like existing as an opinionated muslim queer on the internet+<ul><li>Orientalism: reimagined. </li><li>Muslim cool</li><li>Ed Sheeran would hate this episode </li><li>Diaspora link up</li><li>Whatsapp Aunties</li><li>Raising Muslim kids</li><li>Reality and reality tv</li><li>Hypocrisy empaths</li><li>Islam, queerness and homophobia </li><li>Guilt and getting over it</li><li>Intersectional Hell</li><li>Global warming!</li><li>Passing, hiding and existing </li><li>Unpacking the valley!</li><li>Is Kristen Doute ok?</li><li>Turns out the patriarchy is bad everywhere </li></ul> <h3>Subscribe to REFERENTIAL PODCAST&#39;s patreon!</h3><a href="https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast</a>Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials. __________Find Noor @TheRealityIsPod on Instagram and <a href="https://www.threads.com/@therealityispod" rel="nofollow">Threads</a>!Additional video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)Subscribe to our Youtube Page!https://youtube.com/@referentialpodMore at www.alsopurple.comOriginal podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>.  ___________ <h2>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!</h2> NEXT UP: MIX #2: Joni Mitchell&#39;s &#39;Blue&#39; with Karen Charm + The Girlsisode with Victor Alexander! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

'Unfriendly Queer Muslim Hotties' (with Noor from The Reality Is Podcast!)

Drop Call #14
New drop call episode! I&#39;m joined by new guest and friend of the pod Noor from The Reality Is podcast! We talk about what it&#39;s like existing as an opinionated muslim queer on the internet

+

Orientalism: reimagined. 
Muslim cool
Ed Sheeran would hate this episode 
Diaspora link up
Whatsapp Aunties
Raising Muslim kids
Reality and reality tv
Hypocrisy empaths
Islam, queerness and homophobia 
Guilt and getting over it
Intersectional Hell
Global warming!
Passing, hiding and existing 
Unpacking the valley!
Is Kristen Doute ok?
Turns out the patriarchy is bad everywhere 






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Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.



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Find Noor @TheRealityIsPod on Instagram and Threads!

Additional video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

Subscribe to our Youtube Page!

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More at www.alsopurple.com

Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 



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Video Episode 5 <h3>A Queer Retrospective of Xena The Warrior Princess (&amp; Gabrielle)</h3> Ringing in September with the long awaited Xenasode! I&#39;m joined by returning guest <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/best-issue-ever-podcast/id1743500468" rel="nofollow">Best Issue Ever&#39;s</a> Sara Century!  This SUPERSIZED episode features discussion of:<ul><li>A brief history of lesbianism on television</li><li>A queer history of 90s television </li><li>Birth of the slashfic</li><li>Xena as a queer historical text</li><li>Why Lucy Lawless &amp; Renee O&#39;Conner will always be gay famous</li><li>Why Xena did it first</li><li>Leather &amp; Lesbians</li><li>Butch queers exist</li><li>WHOOSH</li><li>Revengence</li><li>Worst Ex Girlfriend</li><li>Rural Queers</li><li>Callisto, ally?</li><li>Syndication, serialisation, long form storytelling, spin offs. </li><li>Sam Raimi</li><li>R.J. Stewart</li><li>Rob Tapert</li><li>Liz Friedman</li><li>Bruce Campbell!</li><li>Karl Urban!</li><li>Hercules The Legendary Journeys and Kevin Sorbo (flop)</li><li>Elizabeth Taylor</li><li>Lord of the Rings</li><li>Wire-Fu</li><li>Buffy the Vampire Slayer</li><li>My Name is Earl (?)</li><li>Context, subtext and subtext in context</li><li>&#34;Subtext&#34; queers</li><li>The glee effect </li><li>FRIENDS</li><li>Embracing the &#39;problematic&#39;</li><li>Pacifism</li><li>Sara and Khaliden&#39;s Top 4 &#39;Xena the Warrior Princess&#39; episodes for newcomers!</li></ul> Support <a href="https://patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink&utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link" rel="nofollow">REFERENTIAL</a> on <a href="https://patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator&utm_content=copyLink&utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link" rel="nofollow">Patreon</a>! + <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/best-issue-ever-podcast/id1743500468?i=1000778265721" rel="nofollow">Check out the official unofficial part 1of this crossover on Best Issue Ever where I talk to Sara about my favourite lesbian couple in comics </a>Find Sara at www.saracentury.com and support Sara Century and Alex Segura&#39;s comic <a href="https://www.patreon.com/cw/TheForgottenFive" rel="nofollow">The Forgotten Five!</a> Original podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. Follow Khaliden @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/alsopurp" rel="nofollow">alsopurp</a> everywhereSubscribe to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/best-issue-ever-podcast/id1743500468" rel="nofollow">Best Issue Ever</a> everywhere you get your pods!Follow @saracentury on instagram!Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)Subscribe to our Youtube Page!https://youtube.com/@referentialpodMore at www.alsopurple.comThank you Layla for the help with this edit!___________ <h2>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!</h2> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Xena The Warrior Princess (A Queer Retrospective)

Video Episode 5



A Queer Retrospective of Xena The Warrior Princess (&amp; Gabrielle)


Ringing in September with the long awaited Xenasode! I&#39;m joined by returning guest Best Issue Ever&#39;s Sara Century! 
This SUPERSIZED episode features discussion of:

A brief history of lesbianism on television
A queer history of 90s television 
Birth of slashfic
Xena as a queer historical text
Why Lucy Lawless &amp; Renee O&#39;Conner will always be gay famous
Why Xena did it first
Leather &amp; Lesbians
Butch queers exist
WHOOSH
Revengence
Worst Ex Girlfriend
Rural Queers
Callisto, ally?
Syndication, serialisation, long form storytelling, spin offs. 
Sam Raimi
R.J. Stewart
Rob Tapert
Liz Friedman
Bruce Campbell
Karl Urban!
Hercules The Legendary Journeys and Kevin Sorbo (flop)
Elizabeth Taylor
Lord of the Rings
Wire-Fu
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
My Name is Earl (?)
Context, subtext and subtext in context
&#34;Subtext&#34; queers
The glee effect 
FRIENDS
Embracing the &#39;problematic&#39;
Pacifism
Sara and Khaliden&#39;s Top 4 &#39;Xena the Warrior Princess&#39; episodes for newcomers!


Support REFERENTIAL on Patreon!



+ Check out the official unofficial part 1of this crossover on Best Issue Ever where I talk to Sara about my favourite lesbian couple in comics 

Find Sara at www.saracentury.com and support Sara Century and Alex Segura&#39;s comic The Forgotten Five!



Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

Follow Khaliden @alsopurp everywhere

Subscribe to Best Issue Ever everywhere you get your pods!

Follow @saracentury on instagram!

Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

Subscribe to our Youtube Page!

https://youtube.com/@referentialpod

More at www.alsopurple.com

Thank you Layla for the help with this edit!

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Xena (& Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century)

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<h2>RE-RELEASE In honour of Antonia&#39;s new book examining the cultural impact of Beyonce!</h2>Click here to order <a href="https://linktr.ee/antoniajadeking" rel="nofollow">BEYONCÉ—ONE OF ONE History Lessons, Love Letters, and Affirmations from a Cultural Icon</a> Stream the video on Spotify or watch the full video episode on <a href="https://youtu.be/o7p4gX69i6U" rel="nofollow">YOUTUBE</a> Beyonce’s Renaissance is over, now we’ve entered the Age of Enlightenment. Welcome to the rodeo? Yeehaw!I’m joined by Antonia Jade King (poet, writer, and soon to be Dr. AJ writing her thesis about the cultural and historical significance of the Fresh Prince of Bel Air) after watching the Renaissance film for a discussion on Beyoncé and the cultural conversations we’ve been having about her ever since she burst on the scene in 1997. AJ and I risk it all, come find out if we get cancelled by the Beyhive! + Find out how we also fit the following in: <ul><li>Introducing my new silent cohost (her name is Alaska)</li><li>Beyoncé Giselle Knowles Carter!</li><li>The Renaissance film</li><li>Texas? Hold &#39;em?</li><li>Cowboy Carter?</li><li>Marathons</li><li>Rough swimming while Black</li><li>The Color Purple</li><li>Billionaires</li><li>Black capitalism</li><li>In praise of Black laziness</li><li>Pinkwashing</li><li>Revolutionaries vs revolutionary narratives</li><li>Black womanhood in the context of queerness</li><li>The myth of Black excellence </li><li>Justice for Ayo! Remember when Jennifer Lopez sang the ’n’ word?</li><li>What we can expect from idols</li><li>Remember bell hooks’ beef with Beyonce?</li></ul> If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the &#39;Citation Page&#39; for this episode on my website, available from the first Sunday after the episode is up! ! <a href="https://www.alsopurple.com/citation-corner" rel="nofollow">https://www.alsopurple.com/citation-corner</a>You&#39;ll find all the books, shows and pods referenced in this conversation. Find AJ @AntoniaJadeKing on all the socials!Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.Music by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.Podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>.  More at <a href="http://www.alsopurple.com" rel="nofollow">www.alsopurple.com</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Episode 2: Critiquing Beyoncé (Or From The Renaissance to Enlightenment with Antonia Jade King)

Beyonce’s Renaissance is over, now we’ve entered the Age of Enlightenment. Welcome to the rodeo? Yeehaw!

I’m joined by Antonia Jade King after watching the Renaissance film for a discussion on Beyoncé and the cultural conversations we’ve been having about her ever since she burst on the scene in 1997.



AJ and I risk it all, come find out if we get cancelled by the Beyhive! 

+ Find out how we also fit the following in:



- Introducing my new silent cohost (her name is Alaska)
- Beyoncé Giselle Knowles Carter!
- The Renaissance film
- Texas? Hold &#39;em?
- Marathons
- Rough swimming while Black
- The Color Purple
- Billionaires
- Black capitalism
- In praise of Black laziness
- Pinkwashing
- Revolutionaries vs revolutionary narratives
- Black womanhood in the context of queerness
- The myth of Black excellence 
- Justice for Ayo!
- What we can expect from idols
- Remember bell hooks’ beef with Beyonce?




If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the &#39;Citation Page&#39; for this episode on my website, available from the first Sunday after the episode is up! ! https://www.alsopurple.com/citation-corner

You&#39;ll find all the books, shows and pods referenced in this conversation.



Find AJ @AntoniaJadeKing on all the socials!

Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Music by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 



More at www.alsopurple.com

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Critiquing Beyoncé (Or From The Renaissance to Enlightenment with Antonia Jade King) [RE-RELEASE]

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30 min Preview! Tune in for the full Part 1 of our Xena (&amp; Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess deep dive later this week! A Queer Retrospective of Xena The Warrior Princess (&amp; Gabrielle) Ringing in September with the long awaited Xenasode! I&#39;m joined by returning guest <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/best-issue-ever-podcast/id1743500468" rel="nofollow">Best Issue Ever&#39;s</a> Sara Century! This 30(ish) min preview includes discussion of:<ul><li>A brief history of television lesbians</li><li>Rural Queers and television</li><li>A queer history of 90s television </li><li>Syndication, serialisation, long form storytelling, spin offs.</li><li>Kevin Sorbo keeps flopping</li><li>Hagspolitation -evil nanny</li><li>Elizabeth Taylor</li><li>Lord of the Rings</li><li>Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Xena comparison</li><li>Context v subtext or Subtext in context</li><li>The glee effect </li><li>FRIENDS</li><li>the &#39;problematic&#39;</li></ul> + <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/best-issue-ever-podcast/id1743500468?i=1000778265721" rel="nofollow">Check out the official unofficial part 1of this crossover on Best Issue Ever where I talk to Sara about my favourite lesbian couple in comics </a>Check out Sara Century and Alex Segura&#39;s <a href="https://www.patreon.com/cw/TheForgottenFive" rel="nofollow">The Forgotten Five!</a>Original podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. Follow Khaliden @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/alsopurp" rel="nofollow">alsopurp</a> everywhereSubscribe to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/best-issue-ever-podcast/id1743500468" rel="nofollow">Best Issue Ever</a> everywhere you get your pods!Follow @saracentury on instagram!Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)Subscribe to our Youtube Page!https://youtube.com/@referentialpodMore at www.alsopurple.comThank you Layla for the help with this edit!___________ <h2>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!</h2> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

[PREVIEW] A Queer Retrospective of Xena The Warrior Princess (& Gabrielle)

30 min Preview! Tune in for the full Part 1 of our Xena (&amp; Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess deep dive later this week!



A Queer Retrospective of Xena The Warrior Princess (&amp; Gabrielle)



Ringing in September with the long awaited Xenasode! I&#39;m joined by returning guest Best Issue Ever&#39;s Sara Century!   



This 30(ish) min preview includes discussion of:

A brief history of television lesbians
Rural Queers and television
A queer history of 90s television 
Syndication, serialisation, long form storytelling, spin offs. 
Kevin Sorbo keeps flopping
Hagspolitation -evil nanny
Elizabeth Taylor
Lord of the Rings
Buffy the Vampire Slayer/Xena comparison 
Context v subtext or Subtext in context
The glee effect 
FRIENDS
the &#39;problematic&#39;


+ Check out the official unofficial part 1of this crossover on Best Issue Ever where I talk to Sara about my favourite lesbian couple in comics 

Check out Sara Century and Alex Segura&#39;s The Forgotten Five!

Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

Follow Khaliden @alsopurp everywhere

Subscribe to Best Issue Ever everywhere you get your pods!

Follow@saracentury on instagram!

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[Preview] Xena (& Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century)

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<h1>[PREVIEW]</h1><h1>Catch the full EP on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ash/id1504367707" rel="nofollow">ASH AND </a></h1><h1>[PREVIEW]</h1> <h1>The X-Men &#39;97 Sessions with &#34;ASH &amp;&#34;s <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ash/id1504367707" rel="nofollow">Ashley Alleyne</a> is back!</h1> Ash and I break down the fifth episode of the new season of X-Men &#39;97 and are joined on the third chair by Michael aka <a href="https://www.instagram.com/blackgaycomicgeek?igsi=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw%3D%3D&utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet" rel="nofollow">BlackGayComicGeek</a>Featuring discussion of the episode :&#34;Weapon X, Lies and DVDs&#34;_________Original podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. Follow Khaliden @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/alsopurp" rel="nofollow">alsopurp</a> everywhereSubscribe to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ash/id1504367707" rel="nofollow">Ash&amp;</a> and find Ashley @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ashandpod" rel="nofollow">ashandPod</a>Follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/blackgaycomicgeek?igsi=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw%3D%3D&utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet" rel="nofollow">BlackGayComicGeek</a> on instagram!Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)Subscribe to our Youtube Page!https://youtube.com/@referentialpodMore at www.alsopurple.com___________ <h2>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!</h2> NEXT UP: X-Men &#39;97 Sessions S2 E6 with Ash Alleyne (&amp; Connor Goldsmith) [+] Xena (&amp; Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century) [Apologies for the delay, dealing with computer issues and a bout of depression. stay tuned this week while we play catch up on the feeds!) Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

X-Men '97 S2 EP5 'Weapon X, Lies and DVDs' (With BlackGayComicGeek!!)

X-Men '97 S2 EP5 'Weapon X, Lies and DVDs' (With BlackGayComicGeek!) [PREVIEW]

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<h1>The X-Men &#39;97 Sessions with &#34;ASH &amp;&#34;s Ashley Alleyne is back!</h1> Ash and I break down the fourth episode of the new season of X-Men &#39;97 and are joined on the third chair by the <a href="https://www.instagram.com/onetruekayla/" rel="nofollow">One True Kayla</a> (<a href="https://www.patreon.com/cw/raylessandrelucent?fbclid=PAcGRvZgJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA85MzY2MTk3NDMzOTI0NTkAAacvn3Hf6GnL-45Rxvx1lnURbLwe8WgfkfOzp8wce9MpkCweGpfszc1UROa3xA_aem_CzrekC_SVzSE6ereQFHMlA&utm_content=link_in_bio&utm_medium=social&utm_source=ig" rel="nofollow">Rayless &amp; Reluctant</a>) Featuring discussion of the episode :&#34;Rise of Apocalypse (Pt. 2)&#34;+<ul><li>take me to the king</li><li>SLAVERY</li><li>Ash’s editing takeover</li><li>Oh brother this guy STINKS</li><li>remember when Bishop lost the baby?</li><li>WHERE IS STORM</li></ul> Head to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ash/id1504367707" rel="nofollow">ASH &amp;</a> to listen to our conversation on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ash/id1504367707" rel="nofollow">episode 5!</a> _________This episode was produced by Ash Alleyne!Original podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. Follow Khaliden @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/alsopurp" rel="nofollow">alsopurp</a> everywhereSubscribe to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ash/id1504367707" rel="nofollow">Ash&amp;</a> and find Ashley @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ashandpod" rel="nofollow">ashandPod</a>Follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/onetruekayla/" rel="nofollow">OneTrueKayla</a>. and check out her content on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@raylessandrelucent?fbclid=PAcGRvZgJleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA85MzY2MTk3NDMzOTI0NTkAAafURGqB0JSuJcTAGOk58oHu9Ss7GBkdrxvjEBGl5H0bm0S__ArmPx3KFFW_yA_aem_8tC9biZuKfsMUc5yNeXDBg&si=n583gupRv4NDvFL_" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a>! Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)Subscribe to our Youtube Page!https://youtube.com/@referentialpodMore at www.alsopurple.com___________ <h2>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!</h2> NEXT UP: X-Men &#39;97 Sessions S2 E6 with Ash Alleyne (with Connor Goldsmith) [+] Xena (&amp; Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century) [Apologies for the delay, dealing with computer issues and a bout of depression. stay tuned this week while we play catch up on the feeds!) Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

X-Men '97 S2 EP4 Rise of Apocalypse Pt. 2 (With OneTrueKayla!)

The X-Men &#39;97 Sessions with &#34;ASH &amp;&#34;s Ashley Alleyne is back!


Ash and I break down the fourth episode of the new season of X-Men &#39;97 and are joined on the third chair by the One True Kayla (Rayless &amp; Reluctant) 



Featuring discussion of the episode :

&#34;Rise of Apocalypse (Pt. 2)&#34;

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X-Men '97 S2 EP4 'Rise of Apocalypse Pt. 2' (With OneTrueKayla!)

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Dropcall #13<ul><li>Oh Mary </li><li>Spiderman- Brand New Grey</li><li>A new Black Panther</li><li>No More Wonder Man </li><li>No More Blade</li><li>Ash has a theory (it&#39;s wrong.)</li><li>Venom (why) </li><li>Carnage (enough)</li><li>Absolute DC </li><li>Vixen by Stephanie Williams</li><li>Static by Cody Ziglar</li><li>Vibeshifting Gotham </li><li>Zatanna v Scarlet Witch</li><li>Relitigating the X-Office post From the Ashes</li><li>Marvel’s Midnight </li><li>The Marvel vs DC wars</li><li>Absolute Batman </li><li>Absolute Wonder Woman </li><li>Absolute Martian Manhunter </li><li>koolaidiceman</li><li>Ghost Rider</li><li>Avengers Doomsday cometh </li><li>Dc so white </li><li>Avatar the Last Airbender (the movie)</li><li>Korra the previous bender (the discourse)</li><li>Seven heavens and the current bender (the animation)</li><li>Invincible </li><li>Children of Blood and Bone </li><li>Children of Yellow and Bone </li><li>Steve Lacy</li></ul> Let us know if you&#39;d like more of these! <h3>Subscribe to REFERENTIAL PODCAST&#39;s patreon!</h3><a href="https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast</a>Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials. __________Original podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. Find Ash @Ashandpod everywhere!Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)Subscribe to our Youtube Page!https://youtube.com/@referentialpodMore at www.alsopurple.com___________ <h2>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!</h2> NEXT UP: &#39;97 Sessions with Ash Alleyne + Xena (&amp; Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century) Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Dropcall #13

Oh Mary 
Spiderman- Brand New Grey
A new Black Panther
No More Wonder Man 
No More Blade
Ash has a theory (it&#39;s wrong.)
Venom (why) 
Carnage (enough)
Absolute DC 
Vixen by Stephanie Williams
Static by Cody Ziglar
Vibeshifting Gotham 
Zatanna v Scarlet Witch
Relitigating the X-Office post From the Ashes
Marvel’s Midnight  
The Marvel vs DC wars
Absolute Batman 
Absolute Wonder Woman 
Absolute Martian Manhunter 
koolaidiceman
Ghost Rider 
Avengers Doomsday cometh 
Dc so white 
Avatar the Last Airbender (the movie)
Korra the previous bender (the discourse)
Seven heavens and the current bender (the animation)
Invincible 
Children of Blood and Bone 
Children of Yellow and Bone 
Steve Lacy


Let us know if you&#39;d like more of these! 





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'Summer 2026 Nerd Media Catch-Up' (with Ash Alleyne!)

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<h1>The X-Men &#39;97 Sessions with &#34;ASH &amp;&#34;s Ashley Alleyne is back!</h1> Ash and I break down the first three episodes of the new season of X-Men &#39;97 and are joined on the third chair by 1/2 of the Hivemind Jackson Lanzing (Eisner nominated writer for Star Trek, Kang the Conquerer, Guardians of the Galaxy, Outsiders and NYX)!Featuring discussion of the episodes :&#34;Days of Past Future&#34;&#34;A Force to Be Reckoned With&#34;&#34;Rise of Apocalypse (Pt. 1)&#34;+<ul><li>&#34;Daniel.&#34;</li><li>SOLAR FLARE</li><li>Jubilee does something (!)</li><li>Age of Apocalypse and boy comics</li><li>Feet(s)</li><li>Colonialism</li><li>X-Factor = X-Force = X-Men (?)</li><li>Warren Worthington was right</li><li>&#34;Papa?&#34;</li><li>Apocalypse v En Sabah Nur</li><li>Cable as a recession indicator</li><li>Kid Cable</li><li>The White Queen at G.A.Y.</li><li>Val Cooper back at it again</li><li>Kang the Conquerer</li><li>The return of a fan favourite segment</li><li>Ash takes the pulpit</li><li>Charles Xavier is stank. </li></ul>_________Original podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. Follow Khaliden @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/alsopurp" rel="nofollow">alsopurp</a> everywhereSubscribe to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ash/id1504367707" rel="nofollow">Ash&amp;</a> and find Ashley @<a href="https://www.instagram.com/ashandpod" rel="nofollow">ashandPod</a>Follow Jackson Lanzing <a href="https://www.instagram.com/foundinthewild/" rel="nofollow">@foundinthewild </a>&amp; @hivemindactual!Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)Subscribe to our Youtube Page!https://youtube.com/@referentialpodMore at www.alsopurple.com___________ <h2>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!</h2> NEXT UP: X-Men &#39;97 Sessions S2 E4 with Ash Alleyne (with Kayla) [+] Xena (&amp; Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century) [Apologies for the delay, dealing with computer issues and a bout of depression. stay tuned this week while we play catch up on the feeds!) Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The X-Men '97 Sessions S2 E1/2/3 with Jackson Lanzing & Ash Alleyne

The  X-Men &#39;97 Sessions with &#34;ASH &amp;&#34;s Ashley Alleyne is back!


Ash and I break down the first three episodes of the new season of X-Men &#39;97 and are joined on the third chair by 1/2 of the Hivemind Jackson Lanzing (Eisner nominated writer for Star Trek, Kang the Conquerer, Guardians of the Galaxy, Outsiders and NYX)!

Featuring discussion of the episodes :

&#34;Days of Past Future&#34;

&#34;A Force to Be Reckoned With&#34;

&#34;Rise of Apocalypse (Pt. 1)&#34;

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&#34;Daniel.&#34;
SOLAR FLARE
Jubilee does something (!)
Age of Apocalypse and boy comics
Feet(s)
Colonialism
X-Factor = X-Force = X-Men (?)
Warren Worthington was right
&#34;Papa?&#34;
Apocalypse v En Sabah Nur
Cable as a recession indicator
Kid Cable
The White Queen at G.A.Y.
Val Cooper back at it again
Kang the Conquerer
The return of a fan favourite segment
Ash takes the pulpit
Charles Xavier is stank. 
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NEXT UP: X-Men &#39;97 Sessions S2 E4 with Ash Alleyne (with Kayla) [+] Xena (&amp; Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century)



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X-Men '97 S2 EP1/2/3 (With comic writer Jackson Lanzing and Ash Alleyne!)

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PREVIEW of the premiere of S2 of the 97 Sessions with ASH &amp;&#39;s Ashley Alleyne! Ash and I break down the first three episodes of the new season of X-Men &#39;97 and are joined on the third chair by 1/2 of the Hivemind Jackson Lanzing (Eisner nominated writer for Star Trek, Kang the Conquerer, Guardians of the Galaxy, Outsiders and NYX)!Featuring discussion for the episodes :&#34;Days of Past Future&#34;&#34;A Force to Be Reckoned With&#34;&#34;Rise of Apocalypse (Pt. 1)&#34; [Apologies for the delay, dealing with computer issues and a bout of depression. Full episode with you imminently) Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

X-Men '97 S2 EP1/2/3 with Jackson Lanzing and Ash Alleyne

(PREVIEW) X-Men '97 S2 EP1/2/3 (With NYX & KANG writer Jackson Lanzing and Ash Alleyne!)

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Dropcall #12Diaspora calling! Sat down with choir-mate and content creator Kaela Shanti at the Brighton Book Festival to talk about everything.. and also nothing! stay tuned for Season 2 of the X-Men 97&#39; Sessions in 1.. 2...! <h3>Subscribe to REFERENTIAL PODCAST&#39;s patreon!</h3><a href="https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast</a>Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials. __________Original podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. Find Kaela @itskaelashanti on tiktok and @KaelaShanti on insta! Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)Subscribe to our Youtube Page!https://youtube.com/@referentialpodMore at www.alsopurple.com___________ <h2>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!</h2> NEXT UP: &#39;97 Sessions with Ash Alleyne + Xena (&amp; Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century) Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

'User Generated Nonsense' (with Kaela Shanti)

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Dropcall #10Lauren and I got on a call and started talking about our pets, the Real Housewives of Atlanta and HBO&#39;s Game of thrones spin off House of the Dragon. This DC is also lowkey a preview for an upcoming episode... stay tuned! ___ <h3>Subscribe to REFERENTIAL PODCAST&#39;s patreon!</h3><a href="https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast</a>Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials. __________Original podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)Subscribe to our Youtube Page!https://youtube.com/@referentialpodMore at www.alsopurple.com___________ <h2>Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast!</h2> NEXT UP: &#39;97 Sessions with Ash Alleyne + Xena (&amp; Gabrielle) The Warrior Princess (with Sara Century) Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

'Dogs, Housewives & House of the Dragon' (with Lauren Warren)

Dropcall #10

Lauren and I got on a call and started talking about our pets, the Real Housewives of Atlanta and HBO&#39;s Game of thrones spin off House of the Dragon. 

This DC is also lowkey a preview for an upcoming episode... stay tuned! 



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Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok)

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<h2>The &#39;97 Sessions with Ash Alleyne &amp; Dr. Khaliden Nas</h2> Featuring all the guests from our X-Men 97 S1 Recaps (Tiffie Starchild, Omar Holmon, Victor Alexander, Miss Sundi, Valentine Smith, Connor Goldsmith, Brett Mannes, Evil Jeff, Matthew Bordenave, Marvin Britt and Jiggly Caliente!)See you in a few days for the return of the &#39;97 sessions with Ash Alleyne! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

X-Men '97 Season 1 Recap

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<h2>The &#39;97 Sessions with Ash Alleyne &amp; Dr. Khaliden Nas</h2> Ash and I sat down for one final conversation about X-Men ’97! We talk our overall season one X-Men thoughts, our overall podcasting thoughts and answer listener questions. Plus, introducing ‘The Mix’, a new segment with a line up of heavy hitters jumping on the third chair to share their thoughts on the season overall. Featuring:<ul><li>Thee Miss Sundi!</li><li>Screenwriter Lauren Warren!</li><li>Graphic Policy’s Elana Levin!</li><li>CEREBRO’S Connor Goldsmith!</li><li>Victor A &amp; Tom B!</li><li>Comic writer and icon Stephanie Williams!</li><li>X-Men &#39;97 assistant director Matthew Bordenave!</li><li>X-Men &#39;97 storyboard artist Marvin Britt!</li><li>And the elusive Chris Williams!</li></ul> One last time, for the children...Dig in! We’ve been alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7Azb1aYhGenH7gcfNp8gR5?si=bdee05582d4e45ca" rel="nofollow"> IMMORTAL X OF WORDS</a> to catch up! Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast <a href="https://t.co/6GIMzUx5Aq" rel="nofollow">X of Words</a> everywhere you find your podcasts. Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.Produced by Dr. Khaliden NasMusic by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.Podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>.  *&#39;Tangents&#39; are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *If you liked this episode, help other people find the podcasts! Share, tell a friend, and remember to leave a rating and review! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

'97S': X-Men ‘97 S1 Wrap-Up/Mailbag (with Ash Alleyne, & More!)

Crossover pt. 11 (Grand finale extravaganza!)



Ash and I sat down for one final conversation about X-Men ’97! We talk our overall season one X-Men thoughts, our overall podcasting thoughts and answer listener questions. Plus, introducing ‘The Mix’, a new segment with a line up of heavy hitters jumping on the third chair to share their thoughts on the season overall. Featuring:

Thee Miss Sundi!
Screenwriter Lauren Warren!
Graphic Policy’s Elana Levin!
CEREBRO’S Connor Goldsmith!
Thee Victor A &amp; Tom B!
Comic writer and icon Stephanie Williams!
X-Men &#39;97 assistant director Matthew Bordenave!
X-Men &#39;97 storyboard artist Marvin Britt!
And the elusive Chris Williams!


One last time, for the children...

Dig in!



We’ve been alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and  IMMORTAL X OF WORDS to catch up!



Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 



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X-Men ‘97 S1 Wrap-Up/Mailbag (with Stephanie Williams, Connor Goldsmith, Ash Alleyne & More!)

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2024/5/30/22/def1ebf8-9583-4aea-9727-9644846e8b00_97referential_xowepfull10.mp3

<h2>The &#39;97 Sessions with Ash Alleyne &amp; Dr. Khaliden Nas</h2> Icons in the room! We’re joined by Brett Mannes and Evil Jeff, hosts of the OG Queer nerd podcast<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2J5rzxMhP3goEoGifgrFEW?si=6be32697545d44a2" rel="nofollow"> “Comic Book Queers: Legacy”</a>!We dig into our thoughts and feelings on Episode 10, Season 1 of X-Men &#39;97 - the Season One finale:‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 2’.Come listen to us dig into this episode and find out how we also fit the following in.  <ul><li>Nerd podcasting in the Pre-Krakoa boom, pre-Serial. </li><li>Ash reveals his American heritage</li><li>Don’t put Evil in a room with a Jean and a gun</li><li>CAW</li><li>Bastion chokes a lot of women</li><li>Bastion threw the first brick at Stonewall</li><li>Oppression 101</li><li>Steven Universe monologues vs Punching fascists</li><li>Sinister is the oldest Twink in the club</li><li>Ash v Khaliden. Continued.</li><li>Call Me By Your Face</li><li>A moment of appreciation for Jiz, may she never be forgotten</li><li>Why are you down there?!</li><li>The actors nightmare</li><li>Serialised television and event TV</li><li>The return of a now regular segment!</li><li>Clenching</li><li>Storm in this season’s narrative</li><li>Storm/Morph/Beast and the most visibly marginalised mutants</li></ul> Make sure to subscribe to<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7Azb1aYhGenH7gcfNp8gR5?si=bdee05582d4e45ca" rel="nofollow"> IMMORTAL X OF WORDS</a> and stay tuned for a special mailbag episode closing to close out the crossover!Find Comic Books Queers: Legacy on instagram @Comicbookqueers!Find Brett Mannes @Brettmannes on Instagram!Find Evil Jeff @EvilJeff on Instagram!Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast <a href="https://t.co/6GIMzUx5Aq" rel="nofollow">X of Words</a> everywhere you find your podcasts. Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.Edited and Produced by Dr. Khaliden NasMusic by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.Podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>.  *&#39;Tangents&#39; are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

'97S': X-Men ‘97 EP 10 ‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 3’ (with Brett Mannes, Evil Jeff & Ash Alleyne!)

Crossover pt. 10!

Icons in the room! We’re joined by Brett Mannes and Evil Jeff, hosts of the OG Queer nerd podcast “Comic Book Queers: Legacy”!

We dig into our thoughts and feelings on Episode 10, Season 1 of X-Men &#39;97 - the Season One finale:‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 2’.

Come listen to us dig into this episode and find out how we also fit the following in. 



Nerd podcasting in the Pre-Krakoa boom, pre-Serial. 
Ash reveals his American heritage
Don’t put Evil in a room with a Jean and a gun
CAW
Bastian chokes a lot of women
Oppression 101
Steven Universe monologues vs Punching fascists
Sinister is the oldest Twink in the club
Ash v Khaliden. Continued.
 A moment of appreciation for Jiz, may she never be forgotten
Why are you down there?!
The actors nightmare
Serialised television and event TV
The return of a now regular segment!
Clenching
Storm in this season’s narrative
Storm/Morph/Beast and the most visibly marginalised mutants




Make sure to subscribe to IMMORTAL X OF WORDS and stay tuned for a special mailbag episode closing to close out the crossover!

Find Comic Books Queers: Legacy on instagram @Comicbookqueers!

Find Brett Mannes @Brettmannes on Instagram!

Find Evil Jeff @EvilJeff on Instagram!

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Edited and Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 



*&#39;Tangents&#39; are bonus episodes posted more frequently than Main Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!
Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *


Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode!

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X-Men ‘97 (S2 Prep) S1 EP10 ‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 3’ (with Brett Mannes, Evil Jeff & Ash Alleyne!)

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2024/5/16/14/0ff36384-c621-4fdd-8d73-6ca2d19bba8e_ep_9_full_ref.mp3

<h2>The &#39;97 Sessions with Ash Alleyne &amp; Dr. Khaliden Nas</h2> <h2>Prepare for S2 by listening back to our S1 recap discussions with some of your favourite comic book nerds across the internet</h2> ________________&#39;97 Sessions&#39; (Crossover with Ash Alleyne from &#39;Ash &amp;&#39; ) We’re joined by actress, drag performer, rapper, activist and nerd Bianca Castro aka Jiggly Caliente! (Drag Race Philippines judge, Pose, Rupaul&#39;s Drag Race Season 4, All Stars 6, co-host of Translations!) to talk through all our feelings on X-Men &#39;97 Episode 9, Season 1 ‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 2’.Come listen to us dig into this episode with an icon in the room!+<ul><li>X-Men &#39;97 as that one ex you keep coming back to</li><li>Jiggly Caliente&#39;s history with the X-Men</li><li>Comics as a young immigrants&#39; teacher</li><li>Veronica Lodge with superpowers</li><li>Social Parallels</li><li>Discrediting revolutionary ideas</li><li>Sisterhood, adaptation, Jean Grey &amp; Ororo Storm Munroe</li><li>Jean gets her Naruto on</li><li>I try to get Ash and Jiggly to fight</li><li>The return of a regular segment</li><li>Can Storm do something again please?</li><li>Marvel Vs Capcom</li><li>Sitting on Lilandra&#39;s eggs</li><li>Shut up Charles</li><li>Bonding over violence</li><li>Queers against assimilation</li><li>Fatal (attractions) Matters</li><li>Xavier&#39;s not like us</li><li>XopXopXopXopXop</li><li>The return of the cosmic chicken</li></ul> We&#39;ll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! Make sure to subscribe to<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7Azb1aYhGenH7gcfNp8gR5?si=bdee05582d4e45ca" rel="nofollow"> IMMORTAL X OF WORDS</a> and we’ll see you back on REFERENTIAL to review Episode 10. And stay tuned for a special mailbag in two weeks!Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast <a href="https://t.co/6GIMzUx5Aq" rel="nofollow">X of Words</a> everywhere you find your podcasts. Find Jiggly @jigglycalienteofficial on Instagram !Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.Produced by Dr. Khaliden NasMusic by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.Podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>.  *&#39;Tangents&#39; are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

'97S': X-Men ‘97 EP 9 ‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 2’ (with Jiggly Caliente & Ash Alleyne!)

Crossover pt. 9!



We’re joined by actress, drag performer, rapper and activist Jiggly Caliente (Drag Race Philippines judge, Pose, Rupaul&#39;s Drag Race Season 4, All Stars 6, co-host of Translations! ) to talk through all our feelings on X-Men &#39;97 Episode 9, Season 1 ‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 2’.

Come listen to us dig into this episode with an icon in the room!

+

X-Men &#39;97 as that one ex you keep coming back to
Jiggly Caliente&#39;s history with the X-Men
Comics as a young immigrants&#39; teacher
Veronica Lodge with superpowers 
Social Parallels
Discrediting revolutionary ideas
Sisterhood, adaptation, Jean Grey &amp; Ororo Storm Munroe 
Jean gets her Naruto on
I try to get Ash and Jiggly to fight
The return of a regular segment 
Can Storm do something again please?
Marvel Vs Capcom
Sitting on Lilandra&#39;s eggs
Shut up Charles
Bonding over violence
Queers against assimilation
Fatal (attractions) Matters
Xavier&#39;s not like us
XopXopXopXopXop
The return of the cosmic chicken




We&#39;ll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe to IMMORTAL X OF WORDS and we’ll see you back on REFERENTIAL to review Episode 10. And stay tuned for a special mailbag in two weeks!

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Find Jiggly @jigglycalienteofficial on Instagram !

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 



*&#39;Tangents&#39; are bonus episodes posted more frequently than Main Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *


Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode!

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X-Men ‘97 (S2 Prep) S1 EP9 ‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 2’ (with Jiggly Caliente & Ash Alleyne!)

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2026/6/29/7/051c0d40-ae63-46e1-b448-8d35beeb304a_episode_8_full.mp3

<h2>The &#39;97 Sessions with Ash Alleyne &amp; Dr. Khaliden Nas</h2> <h2>Prepare for S2 by listening back to our S1 recap discussions with some of your favourite comic book nerds across the internet</h2> ________________&#39;97 Sessions&#39; (Crossover with Ash Alleyne from &#39;Ash &amp;&#39; ) We’re joined by Marvin Britt (Storyboard Artist for X-Men ’97, Star Trek: Lower Decks, Blood of Zeus, The Legend of Vox Machina) to go behind the scenes on X-Men &#39;97 Episode 8, Season 1 ‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 1’. Come listen to us dig into all the behind the scenes secrets of the making of this episode’s most iconic scenes +<ul><li>Return of the Children of Toonami </li><li>Is Bishop okay?</li><li>Losing someone’s baby </li><li>Khaliden develops name blindness </li><li>Bastion got the Ash bass</li><li>Destroying Marvin’s love of X-Men in one sentences</li><li>Knitters </li><li>Where is Emma Frost?!</li><li>The X-Mansion as a tax shelter</li><li>Don’t mess with Michael Mouse</li><li>The ‘pinks’</li><li>Someone get Magneto a robe</li><li>NEIN!</li></ul> We&#39;ll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ash/id1504367707" rel="nofollow">ASH &amp;</a> everywhere you find your podcasts. Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast <a href="https://t.co/6GIMzUx5Aq" rel="nofollow">X of Words</a> everywhere you find your podcasts. Find Marvin Britt @marvin_b_britt on Instagram !Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.Produced by Dr. Khaliden NasMusic by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.Podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>.  *&#39;Tangents&#39; are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

X-Men ‘97 Episode 8 ‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 1’ Recap/Review (with Ash Alleyne & Storyboarder Marvin Britt)

Crossover pt. 8(ish)



We’re joined by Marvin Britt (Storyboard Artist for X-Men ’97, Star Trek: Lower Decks, Blood of Zeus, The Legend of Vox Machina) to go behind the scenes on X-Men &#39;97 Episode 8, Season 1 ‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 1’.



Come listen to us dig into all the behind the scenes secrets of the making of this episode’s most iconic scenes 

+

Return of the Children of Toonami 
Is Bishop okay?
Losing someone’s baby 
Khaliden develops name blindness 
Bastion got the Ash bass
Destroying Marvin’s love of X-Men in one sentences
Knitters 
Where is Emma Frost?!
The X-Mansion as a tax shelter
Don’t mess with Michael Mouse
The ‘pinks’
Someone get Magneto a robe
NEIN!


We&#39;ll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe to IMMORTAL X OF WORDS and we’ll see you back on REFERENTIAL to  review Episode 9 next week.



Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Find Marvin Britt @marvin_b_britt on Instagram !

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 



*&#39;Tangents&#39; are bonus episodes posted more frequently than Main Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!
Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *


Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode!

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X-Men ‘97 (S2 Prep) S1 EP8 ‘Tolerance is Extinction - Part 1’ (with Marvin Britt & Ash Alleyne!)

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2024/5/1/15/7c561ce7-83e3-4dc7-9747-594fcd7f7dcc_tangent___ep_7__final.mp3

<h2>The &#39;97 Sessions with Ash Alleyne &amp; Dr. Khaliden Nas</h2> <h2>Prepare for S2 by listening back to our S1 recap discussions with some of your favourite comic book nerds across the internet</h2> ________________&#39;97 Sessions&#39; (Crossover with Ash Alleyne from &#39;Ash &amp;&#39; ) For Episode 7 we’re joined by two new chairs (Valentine Smith and Miss Sundi!) to talk all about X-Men &#39;97 Episode 7, Season 1 ‘Bright Eyes’ (written by Charley Feldman and JB Ballard)! Come listen to us dig into our favourite episode so far  + Find out how we&#39;ve fit the following in: <ul><li>The Debut of a brand new segment</li><li>The return of Trifiling Trish Tilby</li><li>Appropriate funeral attire</li><li>Team Rogue did nothing wrong</li><li>Days of Genocides past</li><li>Wading into Captain America discourse</li><li>Jubilee’s earrings</li><li>Ash vs Khaliden continues as new contenders enter the ring</li><li>Western conceptions of ‘The Closet’</li><li>Ms. Bastion’s Blues</li><li>The many failures of Charles Xavier</li><li>Sibling shade</li><li>The quiet firing of Dr. Khaliden Nas</li><li>More brief musical interludes </li><li>Passé Politics</li><li>Two Dumb Bitches: “EXACTLY!”</li><li>Shout out to Bella Donna</li><li>Are the X-Men heroes for humans or heroes of mutants</li></ul> We&#39;ll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ash/id1504367707" rel="nofollow">ASH &amp;</a> everywhere you find your podcasts.  Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast <a href="https://t.co/6GIMzUx5Aq" rel="nofollow">X of Words</a> everywhere you find your podcasts. Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials. Find Valentine @ValentineSm1th Find Sundi @SundiInThePark/@Sundi.in.the.park Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.Produced by Dr. Khaliden NasMusic by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.Podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. *&#39;Tangents&#39; are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

X-Men ‘97 Ep 7 ‘Bright Eyes’ (with Ash Alleyne, Khaliden Nas, Valentine Smith & Miss Sundi)

Tangent #9  (Crossover with Immortal X of Words)!


For Episode 7 we’re joined by two chairs (Valentine Smith and Sundi!) to talk all about X-Men &#39;97 Episode 7, Season 1 ‘Bright Eyes’ (written by Charley Feldman and JB Ballard)!



Come listen to us dig into our favourite episode so far 



+ Find out how we&#39;ve fit the following in:



The Debut of a brand new segment
The return of Trifiling Trish Tilby
Appropriate funeral attire
Team Rogue did nothing wrong
Days of Genocides past
Wading into Captain America discourse
Jubilee’s earrings
Ash vs Khaliden continues as new contenders enter the ring
Western conceptions of ‘The Closet’
Ms. Bastion’s Blues
The many failures of Charles Xavier
Sibling shade
The quiet firing of Dr. Khaliden Nas
More brief musical interludes 
Passé Politics
Two Dumb Bitches: “EXACTLY!”
Shout out to Bella Donna
Are the X-Men heroes for humans or heroes of mutants


We&#39;ll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe for next week&#39;s recap/review of Episode 8 on Ash&#39;s podcast IMMORTAL X OF WORDS and then head back to REFERENTIAL to listen to us review Episode 9 the week after that (and so on!).



Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.



Find Valentine @ValentineSm1th 

Find Sundi @SundiInThePark/@Sundi.in.the.park



Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 



*&#39;Tangents&#39; are bonus episodes posted more frequently than Main Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!
Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *


Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode!

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X-Men ‘97 (S2 Prep) S1 EP7 ‘Bright Eyes’ (with Valentine Smith, Miss Sundi & Ash Alleyne!)

https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pod-public-media-files/2026/6/27/10/8b512da3-0aa4-4943-b0eb-1a79059219b4_refowords_6_complete.mp3

<h2>The &#39;97 Sessions with Ash Alleyne &amp; Dr. Khaliden Nas</h2> <h2>Prepare for S2 by listening back to our S1 recap discussions with some of your favourite comic book nerds across the internet</h2> ________________&#39;97 Sessions&#39; (Crossover with Ash Alleyne from &#39;Ash &amp;&#39; ) For Episode 6 we’re joined by our first ever returning third chair Tiffie Starchild o talk all about X-Men &#39;97 Episode 6, Season 1 ‘Lifedeath - Part 2’.Come listen to us dig into it + Find out how we&#39;ve fit the following in:<ul><li>THE BREEZE IS BACK!</li><li>Galaxy of white refrigerators</li><li>Bird ass people and bussing bald bussy</li><li>Stop the Sinister Steal 2025</li><li>The return of our now regular segment</li><li>Storm can’t catch a break</li><li>Alison Sealy-Smith you will always be famous</li><li>The galactic swirl agenda</li><li>A little bit of race play</li><li>Idealism killing everyone</li><li>Ash reads a letter he wrote Gladiator on the radio</li><li>So she just left Forge there?</li></ul> We&#39;ll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! Make sure to subscribe to<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7Azb1aYhGenH7gcfNp8gR5?si=bdee05582d4e45ca" rel="nofollow"> IMMORTAL X OF WORDS</a> for the full episode + our recap/review of episode 8 in two weeks, and we’ll see you back on REFERENTIAL to listen to us review Episode 7 next week (and so on!). Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ash/id1504367707" rel="nofollow">ASH &amp;</a> everywhere you find your podcasts. Find Tiffie Starchild @TiffieStarchild across social media!Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.Produced by Dr. Khaliden NasMusic by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.Podcast Artwork by <a href="http://valentinemsmith.com/" rel="nofollow">Valentine M. Smith</a>. *&#39;Tangents&#39; are audio-only episodes posted more frequently than Video Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. * Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode! Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

(PREVIEW) '97s': X-Men ‘97 EP 6 ‘Lifedeath – Part 2’ (with Ash Alleyne & Tiffie Starchild)


Crossover pt. 6(ish)



For Episode 6 we’re joined by our first ever returning third chair Tiffie Starchild o talk all about X-Men &#39;97 Episode 6, Season 1 ‘Lifedeath - Part 2’.

Come listen to us dig into it



+ Find out how we&#39;ve fit the following in:



THE BREEZE IS BACK!
Galaxy of white refrigerators
Bird ass people and bussing bald bussy
Stop the Sinister Steal 2025
The return of our now regular segment
Storm can’t catch a break
Alison Sealy-Smith you will always be famous
The galactic swirl agenda
A little bit of race play
Idealism killing everyone
Ash reads a letter he wrote Gladiator on the radio
So she just left Forge there?


We&#39;ll be alternating episodes on both our feeds so make sure to follow both REFERENTIAL and Immortal X of Words! 

Make sure to subscribe to IMMORTAL X OF WORDS for the full episode + our recap/review of episode 8 in two weeks, and we’ll see you back on REFERENTIAL to listen to us review Episode 7 next week (and so on!).



Find Ash @Vanthefirst on all socials and his podcast X of Words everywhere you find your podcasts. 

Find Tiffie Starchild @TiffieStarchild across social media!

Keep up to date with Dr. Khaliden Nas by checking out www.alsopurple.com and following @AlsoPurp on all socials.

Hosted by Ash Alleyne and Dr. Khaliden Nas.

Produced by Dr. Khaliden Nas

Music by PamperedFists &amp; Anzahlung.

Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 



*&#39;Tangents&#39; are bonus episodes posted more frequently than Main Episodes because they require less work/research/editing!

Expect quick reviews, edited out content, collabs, mailbags, live audio, and so on.. *


Help other people find the podcasts, share and remember to leave a rating and review if you liked the episode!

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X-Men ‘97 (S2 Prep) S1 EP6 ‘Lifedeath – Part 2’ (with Tiffie Starchild & Ash Alleyne)

A podcast to have serious conversations about frivolous topics.

Referential is hosted by Dr. Khaliden Nas to have serious conversations about frivolous topics!

Each episode takes you on an academically informed deep dive into pop culture and media that never skips out on a stupid joke. 

Subscribe & join Dr. Khaliden Nas (and the occasional guest!) as we dive into conversations about  identity, representation, Blackness, queerness (and so much more) across the cultures that we make; and the cultures that make us.

Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. 

Music by Pampered Fists & Anzahlung.

Find out more at www.alsopurple.com