Chris and Matt watch Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and talk about that.

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode Duet. We are joined by Chris’s wife, Lela. Topics include the difficulty of caring about the characters in this first season, the Federation&#39;s role as peace officers, the nature of prejudice, collective guilt, and breaking the cycle of revenge through forgiveness.

Duet - DS9 S01E19

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode Dramatis Personae. We are joined by Nash Family Bacon&#39;s very own Mike Nash. Topics include DS9&#39;s first season&#39;s obsession with high concepts, the meaning of building a clock, having the shields on by default, and blazing our names across the stars.

Dramatis Personae  - DS9 S01E18

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode The Forsaken. Topics include the personality of artificial intelligence, showing vulnerability, whether anyone can make a show like The Next Generation nowadays, and the different ways to make a personal connection.

The Forsaken - DS9 S01E17

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode If Wishes Were Horses. Topics include baseball (yes, Chris talks about a sport), the cognitive nature of fantasization, how each person’s fantasies differentiate, the dangers of living within an imagined reality, and, oh yeah, we talk about this DS9 episode.

If Wishes Were Horses – DS9 S01E16

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode Progress. Topics include Rom&#39;s salary, individual rights versus collective prosperity, Kira&#39;s character progression, whether holodeck bullets are lethal, and self-sealing stem bolts.

Progress - DS9 S01E15

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode The Storyteller. We are joined again by our bacon merchant friend, Mike. Topics include Bashir&#39;s new love interest, DS9&#39;s contradictory relationship with humanism, imposter syndrome, old men shouting at clouds, and The City on the Edge of Forever.

The Storyteller - DS9 S01E14

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode Battle Lines. This episode we are once again joined by our long time friend Cody. Topics include retributive justice, post-traumatic stress disorder, the power of forgiveness in ending cycles of hatred, and differential magnetomers.

Battle Lines - DS9 S01E13

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode Vortex. Topics include Deep Space Nine being so different than other Star Trek shows, Odo&#39;s bizarre biological nature, Colm Meaney&#39;s film The Snapper, and skipping Neelix scenes.

Vortex - DS9 S01E12

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode The Nagus. Topics include characterization in Star Trek episodes, imagining Ferengi society, our education system, influencing friends, and the pope of materialism.

The Nagus - DS9 S01E11

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s wonderful and majestic episode Move Along Home. Topics include sarcasm in podcast descriptions, games being a simulation of reality, first contact not being what it used to be, Allamaraine, and sending Odo home. This week we are joined in studio by our guests Mike and Ashley. Please enjoy the sporadic tones of the heavy rain hitting our room&#39;s skylight.

Move Along Home - DS9 S01E10

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode The Passenger. Topics include the psychological game of a procedural TV show, that it&#39;s good to want things, archiving brain patterns, vintage phaser collectors, and whether this is the last episode that we see the real Bashir.

The Passenger - DS9 S01E09

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode Dax. Topics include the symbiosis of the mind, body and soul, the nature of being, pick up artists in space, and accepting that your reincarnated friend is still dead.

Dax - DS9 S01E08

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode Q-Less. Our friend Cody joins us for the discussion. Topics include conventions, the fourth wall, pugilism, tritium gas, and never going home again.

Q-Less - DS9 S01E07

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode Captive Pursuit. Topics include civilization&#39;s concealed savagery of man, the Prime Directive and its subjectivity, respecting a person&#39;s code of honor, and Odo&#39;s taste in paintings.

Captive Pursuit - DS9 S01E06

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode Babel. Topics include our guest Mike&#39;s great love for the film Generations, going out to eat when you have a replicator at home, aphasia, transporter phobia, and Chris and Mike&#39;s supranatural parallel thoughts on O&#39;Brien&#39;s suffering.

Babel - DS9 S01E05

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode A Man Alone. Topics include reincarnation of the soul, clone abortion, English common law, the 18th and 19th Amendments, and Bashir&#39;s guide on how to pick up women. Special guest star Lela provides a woman&#39;s perspective on this episode.

A Man Alone - DS9 S01E04

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s episode Past Prologue. Topics include terrorism, espionage, and Sisko&#39;s greatest sin.

Past Prologue - DS9 S01E03

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine&#39;s pilot episode Emissary. Matt reads way too into things and Chris teaches us about Miranda class Starships.

Emissary - DS9 S01E01-02

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Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, its place within Star Trek, and the nature of science-fiction as a genre.

Chris and Matt Talk About That. &#34;That&#34; being Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, its place within Star Trek, and the nature of science-fiction as a genre.

The Intro - DS9 S01E00

Chris and Matt watch Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and talk about that.