Ep 5: A Journey Not a Destination (Chapters 12-15)
Welcome to Episode 5, “ A Journey Not a Destination,” of The Heart of a Disciple Podcast.
This podcast episode is the finale of a 5-part series of conversations with the author of the book, “The Heart of a Disciple,” Bob McCarty, and ministry leaders Lisa Martinez and Tammi McCarthy.
- If you missed the introduction to this series in Episode 1, "Pilgrims Traveling Together," we encourage you to go back and listen here.
- Episode 2 is here: https://www.littlewithgreatlove.com/does-my-path-have-heart/
- Episode 3 is here: https://www.littlewithgreatlove.com/living-the-jesus-dream/
- Ep 4 is here: https://www.littlewithgreatlove.com/healing-wholeness-faithfulness/
- This episode, 5, is here: https://www.littlewithgreatlove.com/journey-not-destination/
Chapter 12: Hearts on Fire
Key points:
- We are surrounded by “saints” - though most have not been canonized!
- Saints are witnesses to living with heartsight.
- The communion of saints binds us to all those past and present who live with steadfastness and faithfulness.
Key questions:
- Saints seem to be holy persons from the past. How would we recognize a “saint” today?
- How can the “communion of saints” strengthen our spiritual journey?
- How can we make the “communion of saints” more tangible and real today?
Chapter 13: Following Your Heart
Key points:
- Recalibration is actively choosing a preferred, grace-filled future.
- Recalibration is a Holy Saturday experience.
- Change and transition can be scary and seem overwhelming.
Key questions:
- How have you experienced recalibration?
- What prevents people from choosing different paths, occupations, relationships, or even locales?
- How is recalibration an experience of “Holy Saturday?”
Chapter 14: A Liminal Heart
Key points:
- The Church is facing a liminal time, crossing a threshold into unknown realities.
- We have competing ecclesiologies: bunker mentality versus field hospital.
- Having a personal “kingdom litany” helps us navigate the uncertainty.
Key questions:
- Describe the competing ecclesiologies in practical terms.
- Say more about the Church as “volcano” and why that is a hopeful image.
- How does a “kingdom litany” provide perspective in turbulent times?
Chapter 15: My Heart
Key points:
- The journey itself, rather than the destination, has meaning, value, and purpose.
- Touchstones provide a compass on our spiritual journey.
- Each person and/or family should identify their guideposts for their journey.
Key questions:
- Describe your touchstones … what provides you direction as you navigate the complexity of Church, life, and spiritual journey?
- How did you develop your pilgrim guideposts? Was this a gradual process or a more intentional decision?
- How has your “inspirational Church” fostered your personal spirituality and discipleship?
Episode 5 Journal Question:
How have I experienced recalibration through this journey?
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Special thanks to:
Tammi McCarthy, podcast co-host, Founder of Whispers of Love & Faith. founding member of Little With Great Love, Catholic speaker. Read more about Tammi here.
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