Matt Raber challenges the belief... that some people just aren’t cut out for sales. In this practical breakdown, he explains why discomfort comes from lack of education—and how learning to handle objections with confidence changes everything. Follow us at https://smarterroofer.com/follow

00:00 Why people say they’re not cut out for sales

00:22 Sales fear comes from lack of education

01:30 Close in the direction of the objection

02:45 Turning hesitation into forward movement

Many contractors wear “busy” like a badge of honor, but... busy can hide serious problems. In this episode, Owen, Elias, and Mervin break down why profit—not volume—is the real scorecard, and how pricing, trust, and systems determine whether your business actually works for you. Follow us at https://smarterroofer.com/follow

00:00 Busy vs. profitable: the wrong question contractors ask

03:25 Volume without systems and why it leads to burnout

05:47 Pricing for value instead of racing to the bottom

09:54 Trust, relationships, and selling the right solution

Elias Raber breaks down one of the most overlooked problems in roofing sales: contractors who aren’t fully sold on what they’re offering. Using real jobsite examples, he explains why belief in your system determines whether you lead the sale or get pushed into someone else’s terms. Follow us at https://smarterroofer.com/follow

00:18 Why belief comes before selling

00:23 The biggest missing piece in lost jobs

01:36 Saying no and selling the right system

02:07 You’re always selling or being sold

Recorded on the road, Elias and Rudy break down what they’re actually seeing in the field as they head into 2026. From real contract wins to lessons learned in past downturns, this episode explains why mindset, visibility, and follow-up matter more than market conditions. Follow at https://smarterroofer.com/follow

CHAPTERS:

00:43 Why contractors are asking about the 2026 roofing forecast

02:01 Real project wins that point to stronger demand

04:32 Lessons from building a roofing company during a downturn

13:55 Why advertising, professionalism, and follow-up separate winners

Many roofing contractors stall out because... they play it safe—small goals, no delegation, and minimal risk. In this episode, Owen, Elias, and Mervin break down why dreaming bigger, getting clear on targets, and delegating the right work can unlock real growth in a commercial roofing business. Follow us at https://smarterroofer.com/follow

00:00 Why “playing it safe” keeps roofers stuck

02:14 Make big plans that stir action and growth

06:21 Getting clear on goals and telling others

07:34 Delegation: the fastest path past the $1M ceiling

Elias Raber delivers a straight-shooting reminder... that success isn’t about the industry—it’s about personal growth. In this short but powerful message, he explains why learning, environment, and mindset determine whether a contractor moves forward or stays stuck. Follow us at https://smarterroofer.com/follow

00:20 Why struggling isn’t about your industry

01:17 The real reason growth stalls

01:36 How your environment shapes results

02:30 What you put into your mind determines output

•Join the Workshop https://smarterroofer.com/lead •See Mervin's seam taper: https://pro-commercial-roofing-tools.square.site/ –– What you do in the next 90 days will determine how the rest of your year goes... In this episode, Owen, Elias, and Mervin break down a practical 30-60-90 day plan for roof coating contractors—covering marketing, pipeline building, follow-up, and where to focus when work slows down. You’ll hear real examples, numbers, and hard-earned lessons you can apply immediately. Follow us at https://smarterroofer.com/follow

• 00:40 Why the next 90 days matter more than the rest of the year
• 02:41 The #1 focus for the next 30 days: estimates, roofs, and visibility
• 06:19 Smart marketing moves in the first 60 days
• 12:47 Filling your pipeline and following up without losing trust

https://smarterroofer.com/follow – In today’s episode... we break down one of the most overlooked advantages in the commercial roofing and roof-coating business: speed.

From bidding and communication to job completion and follow-up, speed builds trust, wins jobs, and creates repeat customers. Slow service doesn’t just cost time—it costs credibility, referrals, and long-term revenue.

You’ll hear real-world examples of how contractors lose work not because of price or quality, but because someone else moved faster. If you want more jobs, better relationships with building owners, and a business that creates freedom instead of frustration, this episode is for you.

👉 Money loves speed—and customers reward the contractor who delivers fast, clear, and professional service.

[2:13] Why Fast Service Wins Jobs

[5:08] Speed, Communication, and Trust

[8:46] How Slow Service Loses Customers

Comfort zones feel safe, but they quietly block growth, opportunity, and the life you actually want. In this episode, Owen Shrock, Elias Raber, and Mervin Mullet unpack why discomfort is a requirement for progress, how indecision keeps people stuck, and practical ways to move forward one step at a time.

• [0:45] What Is a Comfort Zone—And Why Are They So Dangerous?
• [2:10] When “Getting Out of Your Comfort Zone” Isn’t Worth It
• [7:05] Business Comfort Zones: Public Speaking, Leadership & Visibility
• [9:00] From Fear to Confidence: Doing the Thing Anyway
• [12:10] The Line That Changes Everything: You Get What You Tolerate

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Besides tips for a great New Year, get a few tips on sponsoring new team members. Feedback? Drop a comment!

What if giving wasn’t just a holiday idea but a year-round advantage in business and life? In this episode, Owen Shrock, Elias Raber, and Mervin Mullet unpack why the most successful contractors focus on being a net positive, how giving goes far beyond money, and why consistent generosity compounds over time—in leadership, teams, and profits. Give at https://smarterroofer.com/give

1:23 The Season of Giving vs. a Life of Giving

3:34 Giving Without Keeping Score

4:55 Are You Net Positive—or Net Negative?

6:50 “Do the Reps”: How Giving Becomes Who You Are

Drop a comment, with your BIGGEST takeaway from this episode. Did you like it?

1:00 What Contractors Should STOP Doing in 2026

3:30 Facebook Ads vs. Real Relationships

5:30 Personal Life Cuts: Social Media, Red Bull, and Small Subcontracting Jobs

8:00 Hobbies, Hunting, and Why Men Lose Themselves Without Purpose

13:00 Recharge vs. Overindulgence + Final Challenge to the Audience

In this episode of The Smarter Roofer Podcast, Owen, Elias, and first-time co-host Mervin dive into a different kind of year-end planning; instead of asking what to start, they tackle what contractors should stop doing in 2026. From overpriced marketing traps to the hidden cost of small subcontracting jobs, the guys unpack the habits that quietly drain profits and momentum. They also get personal, sharing how social media, hobbies, and even “good things” can stunt growth when they’re out of balance. Elias opens up about a powerful moment of realizing that achieving old dreams didn’t bring fulfillment and why purpose matters more than ever. You’ll walk away challenged, refocused, and ready to make strategic cuts that push your roofing business forward.

IMPORTANT subject that we're STILL teaching today, all these years later! Enjoy this throwback from August 2017, and then drop us a comment!

Is work-life balance real or fake? Let us know in the comments! And get tickets at https://smarterroofer.com/bold

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Do NOT go the way of the 1,700 businesses that closed their doors yesterday... Enjoy this episode, leave a comment... Then Get Your Tickets At https://smarterroofer.com/bold

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Leave a review at smarterroofer.com/rate-podcast. In this episode we cover: 

• Dealing with $800k problems
• How to treat B2B people
• Upcoming Leadership Seminar
• Alex Hormozi's advice for growth

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