[REPRISED] Clearbirth EP: The Doula's Journey and Working With Expectant Parents Ft. Natalia Hayes and Ash Spivak

Episode 42
48m | Oct 12, 2023

Happy October! For the remainder of this month, your host and doula, Annette Perel will share reprised versions of some of her favorite Clearbirth Podcast episodes.

In this episode, Annette speaks with Natalia Hayes and Ash Spivak, authors of Why Did No One Tell Me This?: The Doulas' (Honest) Guide for Expectant Parents.

They discuss their journeys to becoming doulas, what their best advice is for expecting parents, and what is keeping them inspired right now.

This was a reunion that was full circle for Annette. Tune in.




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