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We Were Not Meant for Death: Kathryn Haines

45m | Oct 6, 2026

In this episode of JOY over Happiness, Dr. Jon Eckert talks with Kathryn Haines, host of Everyday Eden, about living in the tension between the world as it is and the world we were created for. Drawing from her experiences with parenting, postpartum anxiety, ADHD, and struggle, Kathryn explores why our longing for something better matters.


They talk about bringing “heaven homeward” through the way we live, parent, teach, and care for others. Kathryn shares why letting kids struggle can help them grow, why every child wants to feel that you not only see them but like what you see, and how parents and educators can create spaces marked by community and hope. Listen until the end for a powerful family story of resilience.


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