ON GOD’S CAMPUS: Voices from the Queer Underground is a limited series podcast about white Christian supremacy and being queer on the most conservative campuses in the country. Chloe Guillot is your guide and translator through the carefully constructed subculture of religious education, as told through the stories of people from the inside. She is joined by co-hosts Paul Carlos Southwick, a legal expert, historian and former white Christian nationalist who worked for some of the largest anti-LGBTQ+ organizations in the world, and Erin Green, a biblical scholar and campus activist who literally gave voice to the Queer Underground while studying the Bible at two conservative Christian colleges. What you will find here is a roadmap to change from the underbelly of the church’s best kept secrets.

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As you know, in 2024, REAP transitioned from working primarily on the Hunter lawsuit to digging in grassroots style and supporting students directly on their campuses. While hosting our fireside chats, we’ve been able to meet some of the most incredible humans, just stuck in the precarious situation of being queer on a non-affirming Christian campus. So today, we want to introduce you to one of those souls. Katie joined us on the podcast to talk about her journey. If this is anything like yours, we encourage you to reach out on our website. 2025 is pretty scary, but we have antidotes for the scaries, so please tune in as we sit down with Katie from Liberty University. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Katie From Liberty

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As per REAP’s commitment to fight for the safety, bodily autonomy, justice, and human rights of LGBTQ people,  REAP has been hosting private meetings and workshops with LGBTQ students around the US. These students are unique because they are living, working, and learning on the very non-affirming Christian campuses spoken of on this podcast. This episode gives you a look into the lives of Caitlyn and Lily, two students at the University of Southern Virginia. Join Crystal Cheatham and Erin Green as they sit down to chat about what a culture of silence truly inspires in students, staff, and even administrators. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

A Culture of Silence is a Culture of Violence

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On this #GivingTuesday we bring you two stories of students who deserved better. And while we may not have been able to sway the Department of Education this year, we are leaning into our grassroots efforts to support students where they are. Just imagine what REAP could have done if we were around when Alex and Danielle were in school. Tune in and get excited with us. We are not done with 2024 just yet. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Special Episode: On This #GivingTuesday

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Angela Whitlock was a huge part of the underground LGBTQ movement at Samford. Hers is a success story of someone who relied on her community to execute a groundbreaking campaign at a conservative Christian school in the South. As the creator of Samford’s OUTLaw, she joins co-hosts Crystal Cheatham and Erin Green to discuss the triumphs and woes of building the group, her journey coming out in a Baptist family, and why she chose Samford in the first place. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Chosen Family—The Foundation of Student Groups

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After the appeal for Hunter v. DOE failed, we realized that while the law would allow for discrimination on non-affirming college campuses, queer students on those campuses will need our support even more. This brings us to two points: 1. We need to raise funds to support them, and 2. We need to have a conversation about the separation between church and state. Is it getting better or worse?On today’s episode co-hosts Erin Green (REAP Director) and Crystal Cheatham (REAP Associate Director) sit down with Plaintiff and former Liberty University student, Lucas Wilson, to discuss what might come next for us, for students, for Christians, and our country, after such a harsh ruling. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The End of Hunter v. DOE or Just the Beginning?

After the appeal for Hunter v. DOE failed, we realized that while the law would allow for discrimination on non-affirming college campuses, queer students on those campuses will need our support even more. This brings us to two points: 1. We need to raise funds to support them, and 2. We need to have a conversation about the separation between church and state. Is it getting better or worse?

On today’s episode co-hosts Erin Green (REAP Director) and Crystal Cheatham (REAP Associate Director) sit down with Plaintiff and former Liberty University student, Lucas Wilson, to discuss what might come next for us, for students, for Christians, and our country, after such a harsh ruling.

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This is a special episode of On God’s Campus, with a new update to the Elizabeth Hunter v. Department of Education lawsuit. On July 16th, 2024 we found ourselves again in court watching the appeal of this special Title IX exemptions lawsuit. Three specific things stood out to us during the amicus briefing and we wanted to sit down with some of the plaintiffs to hear their first responses.Join Erin Green, Director of REAP, and Crystal Cheatham, Associate Director of REAP, as they sit down with plaintiffs Kalie Hargrove and Lucas Wilson. What did they witness and what do they hope this next iteration of the case will bring? Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

The July 16th Appeal of Hunter v. Department of Education

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Erin, Paul, and Tori discuss Tori’s experience in religious education, how neuroscience helps us understand implicit biases, and practical solutions for dismantling racism, queerphobia, and transphobia in religious education.Notes:<ul><li>Support Tori’s work: <a href="https://www.toriglass.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.toriglass.com</a>; <a href="https://www.patreon.com/toriglass/posts" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/toriglass/</a></li><li>Find Tori on social media: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/toriglass/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/toriglass/</a></li><li>REAP website: <a href="https://www.thereap.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thereap.org/</a></li><li>REAP Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq" rel="nofollow"> https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq</a></li><li>Support On God’s Campus:<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023" rel="nofollow"> https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023</a></li><li>Axis Mundi Media: <a href="https://www.axismundi.us" rel="nofollow">https://www.axismundi.us</a></li></ul> This podcast was created with the support of The Collaborative for Gender + Reproductive Equity: <a href="https://cgre.org/" rel="nofollow">https://cgre.org/</a>Produced by Crystal Cheatham of Our Bible App: <a href="https://www.ourbibleapp.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.ourbibleapp.com</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Season 1: Episode 8

White Homework with Tori Williams Douglass

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Erin, Paul, and Brad discuss Brad’s book, Preparing for War, the history of the religious right, and their quest for power and dominance in America.Notes:Support Brad’s work: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/straightwhiteamericanjesus" rel="nofollow">https://www.patreon.com/straightwhiteamericanjesus</a>Find Brad on social media: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/straightwhitejc/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/straightwhitejc/</a>REAP website: <a href="https://www.thereap.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thereap.org/</a>REAP Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq" rel="nofollow"> https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq</a>Support On God’s Campus:<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023" rel="nofollow"> https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023</a>Axis Mundi Media: <a href="https://www.axismundi.us" rel="nofollow">https://www.axismundi.us</a>This podcast was created with the support of The Collaborative for Gender + Reproductive Equity: <a href="https://cgre.org/" rel="nofollow">https://cgre.org/</a>Produced by Crystal Cheatham of Our Bible App: <a href="https://www.ourbibleapp.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.ourbibleapp.com</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Season 1: Episode 7

White Christian Nationalism

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Erin, Paul, and Andrew discuss what religious freedom actually means and how it should be made manifest in our society, communities, government, and institutions.  Notes:<ul><li>Support Andrew’s work: <a href="https://andrewlseidel.com" rel="nofollow">https://andrewlseidel.com</a></li><li>Find Andrew on social media: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andrewlseidel" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/andrewlseidel</a></li><li>REAP website: <a href="https://www.thereap.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thereap.org/</a></li><li>REAP Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq" rel="nofollow"> https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq</a></li><li>Support On God’s Campus:<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023" rel="nofollow"> https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023</a></li><li>Axis Mundi Media: <a href="https://www.axismundi.us" rel="nofollow">https://www.axismundi.us</a></li><li>This podcast was created with the support of The Collaborative for Gender + Reproductive Equity: <a href="https://cgre.org/" rel="nofollow">https://cgre.org/</a></li><li>Produced by Crystal Cheatham of Our Bible App: <a href="https://www.ourbibleapp.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.ourbibleapp.com</a></li></ul> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Season 1: Episode 6

Separation of Church and State with Andrew Seidel

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Erin, Paul, and Kalie discuss Kalie’s experience at Lincoln Christian University, Trans inclusion in the Bible, and purity culture. Notes:<ul><li>Support Kalie’s work: <a href="https://propheticimagination.org/" rel="nofollow">https://propheticimagination.org/</a></li><li>Find Kalie on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/propheticimagination/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/propheticimagination/</a></li><li>REAP website: <a href="https://www.thereap.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thereap.org/</a></li><li>REAP Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq" rel="nofollow"> https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq</a></li><li>Support On God’s Campus:<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023" rel="nofollow"> https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023</a></li><li>Axis Mundi Media: <a href="https://www.axismundi.us" rel="nofollow">https://www.axismundi.us</a></li><li>This podcast was created with the support of The Collaborative for Gender + Reproductive Equity: <a href="https://cgre.org/" rel="nofollow">https://cgre.org/</a></li><li>Produced by Crystal Cheatham of Our Bible App: <a href="https://www.ourbibleapp.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.ourbibleapp.com</a></li></ul> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Season 1: Episode 5

Trans Inclusion with Kalie Hargrove

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Chloe, Paul, and Erin navigate the deadly consequences of anti-LGBTQIA+ policies and ideologies at religious colleges, tell the story of what happens when queer students on campus fight back, and give our call to action in helping us end discrimination and harm toward queer, trans, and non-binary students at religious educational institutions. <ul><li>If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health: <a href="https://www.thetrevorproject.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thetrevorproject.org/</a></li><li>Audio from SPU (in order of appearance): Laur Lugos, Reena Sidhu, Rae Perez </li><li>More information on the fight for LGBTQ+ equality at Seattle Pacific University: <a href="https://www.seattlemet.com/news-and-city-life/2023/06/seattle-pacific-university-anti-lgbtq-employment-policy-controversy" rel="nofollow">https://www.seattlemet.com/news-and-city-life/2023/06/seattle-pacific-university-anti-lgbtq-employment-policy-controversy</a></li><li>REAP website: <a href="https://www.thereap.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thereap.org/</a></li><li>REAP Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq" rel="nofollow"> https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq</a></li><li>Support On God’s Campus:<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023" rel="nofollow"> https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023</a></li><li>Axis Mundi Media: <a href="https://www.axismundi.us" rel="nofollow">https://www.axismundi.us</a></li><li>This podcast was created with the support of The Collaborative for Gender + Reproductive Equity: <a href="https://cgre.org/" rel="nofollow">https://cgre.org/</a></li><li>Produced by Crystal Cheatham of Our Bible App: <a href="https://www.ourbibleapp.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.ourbibleapp.com</a></li></ul> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Rise Up

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Chloe, Paul, and Erin take a  look at how religious schools and colleges are claiming exemptions from civil rights laws now in the context of sexual orientation and gender identity, as told through the stories of queer and trans students who have experienced the effects of a religious college’s reckless abuse.<ul><li>Purchase Elizabeth’s book: <a href="https://a.co/d/7CzphhJ" rel="nofollow">https://a.co/d/7CzphhJ</a></li><li>Find Elizabeth on TikTok: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thatlizhunter" rel="nofollow">https://www.tiktok.com/@thatlizhunter</a></li><li>Support Kalie’s work: <a href="https://propheticimagination.org/" rel="nofollow">https://propheticimagination.org/</a></li><li>Find Kalie on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/propheticimagination/" rel="nofollow">https://www.instagram.com/propheticimagination/</a></li><li>REAP website: <a href="https://www.thereap.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thereap.org/</a></li><li>REAP Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq" rel="nofollow"> https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq</a></li><li>Support On God’s Campus:<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023" rel="nofollow"> https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023</a></li><li>Axis Mundi Media: <a href="https://www.axismundi.us" rel="nofollow">https://www.axismundi.us</a></li><li>This podcast was created with the support of The Collaborative for Gender + Reproductive Equity: <a href="https://cgre.org/" rel="nofollow">https://cgre.org/</a></li><li>Produced by Crystal Cheatham of Our Bible App: <a href="https://www.ourbibleapp.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.ourbibleapp.com</a></li></ul> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

In Accordance With Our Christian Values

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Chloe, Paul, and Erin embark on a deep dive into the racist roots and history of religious colleges by untangling the anti-Black ideologies of Bob Jones University, unpacking the theological arguments used to support segregated schools, and uncovering one of the most monumental clashes between human rights and religious liberty ever fought in the courts. Notes: -Voice Actor credit: Matthew Hinton- “Is Segregation Scriptural? A Radio Address from Bob Jones on Easter of 1960.” <a href="https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/evangelical-history/is-segregation-scriptural-a-radio-address-from-bob-jones-on-easter-of-1960/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/evangelical-history/is-segregation-scriptural-a-radio-address-from-bob-jones-on-easter-of-1960/</a>-Bob Jones and Larry King Live Interview: <a href="https://youtu.be/D12A3D3TGE4" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/D12A3D3TGE4</a>-For more information on the history of Christianity and racism: <a href="https://a.co/d/9HSaDBY" rel="nofollow">https://a.co/d/9HSaDBY</a>-REAP website: <a href="https://www.thereap.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thereap.org/</a>-REAP Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq" rel="nofollow"> https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq</a>-Support On God’s Campus:<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023" rel="nofollow"> https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023</a>-Axis Mundi Media: <a href="https://www.axismundi.us" rel="nofollow">https://www.axismundi.us</a>This podcast was created with the support of The Collaborative for Gender + Reproductive Equity: <a href="https://cgre.org/" rel="nofollow">https://cgre.org/</a>Produced by Crystal Cheatham of Our Bible App: <a href="https://www.ourbibleapp.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.ourbibleapp.com</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Racist Roots

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Chloe, Paul, and Erin set the stage for On God’s Campus by giving in-depth background information from their personal lives, upbringings, and the ways that they are directly connected to LGBTQIA+ discrimination on religious college campuses.REAP website: <a href="https://www.thereap.org/" rel="nofollow">https://www.thereap.org/</a>REAP Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq" rel="nofollow"> https://www.instagram.com/reap_lgbtq</a>Support On God’s Campus:<a href="https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023" rel="nofollow"> https://secure.actblue.com/donate/to-reap-2023</a>Axis Mundi Media: <a href="https://www.axismundi.us" rel="nofollow">https://www.axismundi.us</a>This podcast was created with the support of The Collaborative for Gender + Reproductive Equity: <a href="https://cgre.org/" rel="nofollow">https://cgre.org/</a>Produced by Crystal Cheatham of Our Bible App: <a href="https://www.ourbibleapp.com" rel="nofollow">https://www.ourbibleapp.com</a> Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

Indoctrination or Education?

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ON GOD’S CAMPUS: Voices from the Queer Underground is a limited series podcast about white Christian supremacy and being queer on the most conservative campuses in the country. Chloe Guillot is your guide and translator through the carefully constructed subculture of religious education, as told through the stories of people from the inside. She isjoined by co-hosts are Paul Carlos Southwick, a legal expert, historian and former white Christian nationalist who worked for some of the largest anti-LGBTQ+ organizations in the world, and Erin Green, a biblical scholar and campus activist who literally gave voice to the Queer Underground while studying the Bible at two conservative Christian colleges. What you will find here is a roadmap to change from the underbelly of the church’s best kept secrets. Advertising Inquiries: <a href='https://redcircle.com/brands'>https://redcircle.com/brands</a> Privacy & Opt-Out: <a href='https://redcircle.com/privacy'>https://redcircle.com/privacy</a>

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ON GOD’S CAMPUS: Voices from the Queer Underground is a limited series podcast about white Christian supremacy and being queer on the most conservative campuses in the country. Chloe Guillot is your guide and translator through the carefully constructed subculture of religious education, as told through the stories of people from the inside. She is joined by co-hosts Paul Carlos Southwick, a legal expert, historian and former white Christian nationalist who worked for some of the largest anti-LGBTQ+ organizations in the world, and Erin Green, a biblical scholar and campus activist who literally gave voice to the Queer Underground while studying the Bible at two conservative Christian colleges. What you will find here is a roadmap to change from the underbelly of the church’s best kept secrets.